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Frools
The Priory
Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.11 13:10:00 -
[211]
 Originally by: Butter Dog
- You sponsor pirates who actively hunt traffic in your alleged 'free space'
its not piracy! we're on a mission to reduce jump queues 
also we dont 'pirate' in iac systems (note curse, zxic, kdf, most of catch, immensea and tenerifis are NOT IAC space, we do shoot everything there)
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gusta
The Priory
Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.11 13:14:00 -
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we shoot the occational neutral in f4 but we dont activly hunt in f4r2. we dont check the belts or the stns for neutrals. only time we kill anything in f4 is if its a negative to us or we chased it in(wich doesnt happen very much)
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Butter Dog
The Dead Miners Society
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Posted - 2006.12.11 13:17:00 -
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Originally by: gusta
we shoot the occational neutral in f4 but we dont activly hunt in f4r2. we dont check the belts or the stns for neutrals. only time we kill anything in f4 is if its a negative to us or we chased it in(wich doesnt happen very much)
You guys are flying alongside IAC. You're blue to them.
And the Doril pipe is the one major travel pipe to and from IAC space, its also the one you camp the most.
I'm just curious to know why IAC, who apparently have free space and open markets, would wish to give piratical forces who camp the main entry/exit systems + standings. Seems to go against what IAC used to stand for.
And, yes, its no secret that I don't mind the odd bit of piracy myself, but I'm not the one taking the moral high ground like IAC and their 'free space' blah blah.
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Gutsani
The Priory
Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.11 13:21:00 -
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Edited by: Gutsani on 11/12/2006 13:21:43
Stop the god damn whining! You people are pafethic! (especially Butter Fool .. sell this guy some clue's PLEASE)
SOD and IAC did not plan this, but yes, this is as a gift to us.
For those that dont understand it, and that are ALOT of TARDS:
SOD is +10 to IAC, why? because we actually HELP IAC.
ISS is -10 to IAC, why?
-they took advantage of the trust IAC put in them
-they took advantage of the positive standings they had with IAC
-the constant whining, spionage infiltrating and possible backstabing of ISS to IAC
-blablabla * 10000 ... 
I dare to say, that 3-5% of the IAC members are actually ISS..
I dare to say that if IAC didnt declare this war at this time, ISS would have done something stoupid soon and we would have the same whining.
I dare to say that this war is not SOD's fault, but we take it as a gift and it will probably strengthen our bands with IAC.
I dare to say ISS's light is going out, the darkness has arrived.
Anyone wanne bet who is gonna fall first? ASCN or ISS?
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GO MaZ
The Priory
Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.11 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
And the Doril pipe is the one major travel pipe to and from IAC space, its also the one you camp the most.
People who die to us aren't trying hard enough. Seriously... flying haulers through a set of systems which is KNOWN to be camped by multiple NBSI organizations without any sort of scout is... retarded to say the least. Think of it as a border patrol... if you pass the checks you get into IAC space 
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Butter Dog
The Dead Miners Society
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Posted - 2006.12.11 13:26:00 -
[216]
Originally by: Gutsani
Anyone wanne bet who is gonna fall first? ASCN or ISS?
lol
If you think ISS are going to fall, you're about to learn a valuable lesson.
ISS is all about the outposts. You guys are very effective pirates, some of the best, but you won't be able to take their outposts.
Try if you like.
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Raid
Caldari
Tyrell Corp
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Posted - 2006.12.11 13:31:00 -
[217]
Originally by: Hoshi
One little seed sown 8 months ago, now blossoming into a beautiful flower. Just sad that the one who planted the seed did not survive long enough to harvest the fruits of their labor.
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R3dSh1ft
Caldari
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.11 13:35:00 -
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OMG we got raid claiming responsiblity on one side and Butter Dog sticking in his nose to a situation he knows nothing about on the other 
Listen - everyone else just leave us to the fight - IAC and ISS are gonna have plenty to add to this discussion soon enough!
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Jennie Marlboro
No Quarter.
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Posted - 2006.12.11 13:42:00 -
[219]
Originally by: Traxio Nacho
Originally by: Jennie Marlboro
Originally by: Vensa Heckler
Oh go to hell, let me lay this out for you being as you seem to be too stupid to realise it yourself:
FRIDAY: your people are told to start moving your stuff out of our stations, ...
Isn't that reason enough for IAC to set ISS to -10 right there?
Evicting someone from your stations is not a friendly act. Maybe they just set you to neutral, maybe not, but you had to know you were gonna **** them off, right?
I think you will find what he means is IAC told their members to move stuff out of ISS stations not ISS told IAC to remove their stuff 
Ah. That wasn't clear from the post as I read it. I supposed this is why my writing and composition instructors always used to lecture about not using passive voice.
In that case, I'll just have to assume that the leaders of ISS and IAC both have their reasons for doing whatever it is they're doing now, and that they all think it'll turn out for the best in the end. One of them is wrong, ofc., but that's what makes the game interesting. 
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DaChMon
Caldari
FireTech
Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.11 13:45:00 -
[220]
..............look mum, in in a thread filled with overinflated egos....
oh yeah...
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Silvestri
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.11 14:15:00 -
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few points...
Yes Priory is blue to us...they helped us against MCFix while you laid low...
NOBODY IN ISS NOTICED THAT MC AND FIX WERE IN LOCAL IN MASSIVE NUMBERS???!!! YOU'RE FULL OF ****!! Nobody in there right mind would not notice that and ask what there purpose was at said time.... You can dance around this point all you'd like but YOU know you're wrong on this one!! Even Count admitted it.
What was up with ISS locking pilots before war was even announced? Didn't fire but your pilots were locking.....bit odd isn't it....
Anywho, not that I'm 100% for it...but I'm not 100% against it either. Had fun last night....first time I was ever a primary...lol....
for ccp.....boost up the node....LAG SUCKED LAST NIGHT AND SO DID JUMP QUE'S!!!!!
? since I know MC is in this thread....you stated you have a few months of contracts ahead of you....will you be putting them on hold? 
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Unbeliever Kresmoreen
Communist Vikings
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.12.11 14:16:00 -
[222]
Originally by: Gutsani
Edited by: Gutsani on 11/12/2006 13:21:43*whine and blather*
no.
Whether butter dawg is spot on or way off. Step back, remove your head from your bum, and try to think how difficult it would be to run a neutral organisation. Understand, that you DONT understand (you and many others, by your posts) what neutral actually means. They aren't infallible, they do make mistakes. If you read the forums a bit more, you'd see they've gone a long way into fixing their mistakes. And explaining themselves better.
As for people saying anchoring POS in the station systems is aggression, lol? They asked (queried?) to my knowledge, the surrounding alliances first. Gave them first dibs on shares. Have ****** up on occasion but tried to fix it.
As BD said, if you just want to shoot them, cut the crap and just say it. Fit some tech I cahones and be straight about it.
just meh. if you want to shoot people cool, its a pvp game. stop trying to claim the moral high ground.
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Silvestri
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.11 14:16:00 -
[223]
Originally by: GO MaZ
Originally by: Butter Dog
And the Doril pipe is the one major travel pipe to and from IAC space, its also the one you camp the most.
People who die to us aren't trying hard enough. Seriously... flying haulers through a set of systems which is KNOWN to be camped by multiple NBSI organizations without any sort of scout is... retarded to say the least. Think of it as a border patrol... if you pass the checks you get into IAC space
That's funny...
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Bamsie
State War Academy
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Posted - 2006.12.11 14:19:00 -
[224]
MC in action, I foresee
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Silvestri
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.11 14:24:00 -
[225]
Originally by: Buxaroo
I like you IAC guys more and more everytime I hear about you. The South is getting hotter and hotter......and it's winter!
Despite all the heat we still have the coldest beers....free marketing pitch ftw...
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maGz
The Priory
Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.11 14:24:00 -
[226]
Originally by: Unbeliever Kresmoreen
Originally by: Gutsani
Edited by: Gutsani on 11/12/2006 13:21:43*whine and blather*
no.
Whether butter dawg is spot on or way off. Step back, remove your head from your bum, and try to think how difficult it would be to run a neutral organisation. Understand, that you DONT understand (you and many others, by your posts) what neutral actually means. They aren't infallible, they do make mistakes. If you read the forums a bit more, you'd see they've gone a long way into fixing their mistakes. And explaining themselves better.
As for people saying anchoring POS in the station systems is aggression, lol? They asked (queried?) to my knowledge, the surrounding alliances first. Gave them first dibs on shares. Have ****** up on occasion but tried to fix it.
As BD said, if you just want to shoot them, cut the crap and just say it. Fit some tech I cahones and be straight about it.
just meh. if you want to shoot people cool, its a pvp game. stop trying to claim the moral high ground.
I think you'll find that we (SOD/Pri) don't try to take any morale high ground here. We have never denied that we wanted to shoot ISS nor have we ever had them blue. We welcome this change of standing from IAC, but plz get your facts straight before you post bull****
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Seleene
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.11 14:25:00 -
[227]
Originally by: Silvestri
NOBODY IN ISS NOTICED THAT MC AND FIX WERE IN LOCAL IN MASSIVE NUMBERS???!!! YOU'RE FULL OF ****!! Nobody in there right mind would not notice that and ask what there purpose was at said time....
Since so many seem stuck on this...
The capital ships had been there for over two weeks weeks in support of UK in 9UY. So had our regular fleet.
On the night of the first strike, our cap ship pilots logged in, undocked and jumped out in less than twenty minutes. Our regular fleet met up with the FIX fleet nearly ten jumps away from the ISS stations.
There was no build up to notice because people were already used to seeing us there and on the night of the attack the ISS systems were not where we assembled.
Lastly, less than ten people in FIX and MC even knew IAC was the target until less than 30 mins before the first cyno went up. Most of our own people assumed we were hitting AXE.
ISS knew nothing.
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Gutsani
The Priory
Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.11 14:27:00 -
[228]
Originally by: Unbeliever Kresmoreen
i'm retarded and never learned me to read 
Did you actually read my post? Did i kill your ISS main? Poor boy 
Now, put your head back on your bum so the blood actually reaches it, and try to read my post. If its to difficult ask your mommy to read it for you.
tbh, dont respond and just stay out of this or at least post with your ISS main so i know who i killed.
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Lowa
Gallente
North Star Networks
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Posted - 2006.12.11 14:29:00 -
[229]
Originally by: JaredC01
ISSN = MC Support Fleet <-- Spoken from an ex-ISSN Captain's standpoint...
Just to ask, was that in a negative sense of the word(s)?
Coz from what I experienced ISSN did a fantastic job!
Every time MC showed up and stayed on a gate for more than 5 seconds you would
have 10 ppl asking "whats going on? can we come? what do you need?" and we would
quite often say "lock and load!" followed by Fowlplay taking serious command and then
we went off to pwn some ppl up badly. ISSN lost more ships than the MC but afaik
they did it with a smile and with the feeling that they had mattered!
They did good and have our respect.
Cheers,
Lowa
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Tehyarec
Erasers inc.
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.11 14:29:00 -
[230]
Playing forum warriors is pointless and boring. Just bring it all on in the field of battle and let's have fun, who cares about reasons as much as to write pages after pages of meaningless flaming 
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maGz
The Priory
Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.11 14:33:00 -
[231]
Originally by: Tehyarec
Playing forum warriors is pointless and boring. Just bring it all on in the field of battle and let's have fun, who cares about reasons as much as to write pages after pages of meaningless flaming
The forum-war is half the fun
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Lyrus Associates
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.11 14:36:00 -
[232]
Whoo, we're going to need flame retardant suits soon whenever we poke our heads in this thread.
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Silvestri
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.11 14:37:00 -
[233]
After an hour of reading....my honest opinion is that this is like 2 big brothers who just need to air out the grudges....swap some blows and feel better and nap again.
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Itaro Flagg
The Priory
Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.11 14:37:00 -
[234]
Originally by: Lister Black
From a political perspective I'm sad we're going to war because blah, blah, blah.
From a personal perspective, this is the kind of things I joined EVE for. It's a game, I'm here to have fun, and I have fun by shoosting others. It might be a simple point of view, but complicated things bum me out.
IAC leadership has said they don't want ISS outposts. Maybe, they're lying, but I hope they're not. Territorial disputes (and, by transition, POS wars) are complicated and, from my perspective, not fun. If all goes well, we'll both emerge stronger out of this and perhaps even friends once again.
So, once again, good luck and good fight to both sides.
P.S.: I really do hope this war ends soon, you guys have great prices :D.
Lister... you need to get some space in between you and ISS :) That alliance is bad for the free spirited pvp spirit. Trust me on this, we pew pew'd together, and my time in Praxis was some of dullest and worst in Eve. You need to come on over to the Dark Side, it's so much more fun and satisfying here.
I'd rather see you blue on the overview than red, but I'll fire either way ;)
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Horza Otho
Minmatar
Silver Star Federation
Kurai Komichi
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Posted - 2006.12.11 14:39:00 -
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I am Horza Otho and i approve of this thread.
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Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2006.12.11 14:47:00 -
[236]
Cleaned thread of Trolling and Flaming,
Can i remind eveyone to not make personnal insulting comments - no matter who they are towards and please keep on topic.
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Crozon
Crozon Corp
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Posted - 2006.12.11 14:47:00 -
[237]
Originally by: Itaro Flagg
I'd rather see you blue on the overview than red, but I'll fire either way ;)
erm.. I think you're only supposed to shoot the red thingies, not the blue ones
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Lightof God
Caldari
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
Sani Khal'Vecna
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Posted - 2006.12.11 14:52:00 -
[238]
Hi.
Quote:
ButterDog
Hi again
Hey BD get bak into the allience or please pipe down. As of right now I read all of your stuff becuase you are the former commander of the ISSN. Note the word former. You however seem to be under the impression that you are still a big whig in the ISS/ISSN if you are please say so.
Otherwise, Pipe down and if you refuse to do so I shall utterly ignore any posts I see from you here without the ISSN tag next to your name. I reccomend others do the same.
So my words to you BD, put up or shut up.
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ScreamingLord Sutch
Hand in Mouth
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Posted - 2006.12.11 15:01:00 -
[239]
Originally by: ReaperOfSly
Ye gods, people. Can we just stop the smack. I know I don't personally hate any IAC, let's just shoot each other.
Oh and please please PLEASE let this keep going for at least 2 weeks. I get to fly my thanatos in 11 days and I want to christen it properly
Update your clone.
Retraining for a cap ship takes longer than retraining for an ishtar
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Itaro Flagg
The Priory
Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.11 15:06:00 -
[240]
Originally by: Crozon
Originally by: Itaro Flagg
I'd rather see you blue on the overview than red, but I'll fire either way ;)
erm.. I think you're only supposed to shoot the red thingies, not the blue ones
I'm really not very picky at all ;) But ya, perhaps that came out wrong, hopefully the point got across.
As for Priory/SOD in this? As has been said, we've never masked our intentions. We absolutely love shooting ISS. This war is going to make for the best eve christmas ever for us, we're all quite giddy over some large scale ISS shoostings. If I remember correctly, we wound up leaving IAC in no small part to our inability to stop shooting ISS even when they were the wrong color on our overview ;)
But between IAC and ISS? It really isn't that complicated. IAC didn't go to war because ISS anchored POS, that actually has *nothing* to do with it, and is nothing more than a ButterDog Strawman(tm).
From where I sit, it came down like this: First, ISS, as an alliance, has had multiple serious transgressions of good will against IAC, these have been outlined very clearly already. A response of "well, we fixed that, it won't happen again" can only work so many times. What other transgressions will occur before they are "fixed"? Through these actions or inactions, ISS has shown themselves to be a dangerous and untrustworthy neighbor.
Also, ISS have an inability to control their actual members. Anytime you talk about the faults of ISS, you have to split it into two catagories. First being alliance political faults, second being individual members or corps acting against the ISS charter, and ISS's inability to control them. Despite what you say, and despite your apologies, you *will* be held accountable for any actions taken by anyone in your alliance, whether those actions are against your charter or not (especially if they are).
There is a huge gap in between what ISS professes themselves to be and the actual functioning of their alliance. Between poor politics of the alliance itself and poor control of their members, ISS is an undisciplined and erratic mess that no alliance should ever want on their border.
But now, things have simply gone far enough that IAC is moving to secure their space and borders, not from the aggressions of ISS, but from their sheer ineptitude.
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