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Admiral Farragut	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:13:00 - [1] Chinese isk farmers are ruining the game for me. I am currently trying to find a 5/10 drone complex; I want to collect the compounds for production. However, I am unable to find one that is not occupied by these Chinese isk farmers. They are always there; I left my character cloaked in a safespot for quite some time, and I checked back periodically. Each time I checked, I did a scan of the plex, and I found that those same farmers were there. This is true for all of the 5/10 plexes I have visited. Anyways, my question is.. What does CCP plan to do about these farmers, and what should I do so that I will be able to enjoy this game? Thanks.
Cupertino Castellum	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:15:00 - [2] Can't you just call them isk farmers? The fact that they're chinese is irrelevant.
Xtro 2 Caldari Pre-nerfed Tactics	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:16:00 - [3] Edited by: Xtro 2 on 11/12/2006 00:16:12 they run webcams so you can tell what they look like and where they are from? amazing.... would it make a difference if they were italian or scottish isk farmers? . Xtro 2 - Tactically Insane Tradesman. Insanity, or madness, is a semi-permanent, severe mental disorder typically stemming from a form of mental illness.
Stamm Amarr Three Holdings Rule of Three	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:16:00 - [4] Aren't the 5/10s in space without CONCORD? If that's the case then farmers should be really nice easy targets.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:20:00 - [5] Originally by: Xtro 2 would it make a difference if they were italian or scottish isk farmers? In China, its profitable ($/hour) to farm ISK. In Italy or Scotland, its not, so people don't do it for RL profit. -[23] Member- Awesome new space games site, from the editor of E-ON!
Vherokan	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:23:00 - [6] Originally by: Xtro 2 Edited by: Xtro 2 on 11/12/2006 00:16:12 they run webcams so you can tell what they look like and where they are from? amazing.... would it make a difference if they were italian or scottish isk farmers? Usually it becomes fairly evident that they're Chinese when you open a convo with them and the window is filled with Chinese characters. But then, I guess that could be a ploy to throw us off. Er, no.
Cupertino Castellum	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:26:00 - [7] This thread reminds me of my time in WoW, where the players would use all manner of cliched anti-asian insults against the isk-farmers... who were mostly Romanian on my server. It really doesn't matter where they're from, it's the isk-farming that's the problem. Putting 'Chinese' in the topic title and post is insulting to legit Chinese players, and unnecessary.
Xtro 2 Caldari Pre-nerfed Tactics	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:28:00 - [8] Edited by: Xtro 2 on 11/12/2006 00:28:06 some fair comments as above, but id be peeved if someone said all english geordie people were all X,Y,Z just because of where they are from. . Xtro 2 - Tactically Insane Tradesman. Insanity, or madness, is a semi-permanent, severe mental disorder typically stemming from a form of mental illness.
Nanosoft Minmatar ASTRAIA	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:47:00 - [9] 5/10 are only found in lowsec so get in there and kill the farmers, they usually are very bad pvp'ers and do not know how to proberbly fit there ships easy imo
Bl4zer Ubar Asteroid Hugging Collective	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:47:00 - [10] Originally by: Xtro 2 some fair comments as above, but id be peeved if someone said all english geordie people were all X,Y,Z just because of where they are from. Are all Geordie girls not slappers then? Save the Ubar asteroids

Admiral Farragut	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:49:00 - [11] Originally by: Nanosoft 5/10 are only found in lowsec so get in there and kill the farmers, they usually are very bad pvp'ers and do not know how to proberbly fit there ships easy imo The person camping this one plex has 2 sniping Caldari Navy Ravens that hit from 240 off, and a scorpion. That kind of rules it out
ScreamingLord Sutch Hand in Mouth	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:54:00 - [12] Originally by: Admiral Farragut Originally by: Nanosoft 5/10 are only found in lowsec so get in there and kill the farmers, they usually are very bad pvp'ers and do not know how to proberbly fit there ships easy imo The person camping this one plex has 2 sniping Caldari Navy Ravens that hit from 240 off, and a scorpion. That kind of rules it out Rules it out for you maybe, reveal the location and if CNR's are there, they'll die
Stamm Amarr Three Holdings Rule of Three	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:54:00 - [13] Urm, I don't see macro miners or whatever being in CNRs... Are you sure they aren't legit? If they speak Chinese that doesn't make them cheats, as long as they are playing the game and not macroing.
Widblain Caldari BARGES 'R' US	Posted - 2006.12.11 00:57:00 - [14] Please - the location, pretty please please please... Sounds like fun.
Soporo	Posted - 2006.12.11 01:05:00 - [15] Edited by: Soporo on 11/12/2006 01:05:55 If it really bothers you then post the location. Local Pies will see to the rest. Come to think of it,IF its truly Macros then they are probably hitting every lowsec plex.
Abye Caldari UNITED STARS ORGANISATION	Posted - 2006.12.11 01:07:00 - [16] The mentioning of CNRs in lowsec made the pirates drool.
Merchantigus Minmatar Riot Zone	Posted - 2006.12.11 01:13:00 - [17] Edited by: Merchantigus on 11/12/2006 01:16:02 1. even if they aren't from china it's close enough 2. blow them to hell? 3. give one of us naughty people the system so we can blow them to hell? farmers moving large scale into low sec is a pirates wet dream XD "When still up after 30 hours you are type this good you will not mmhmhmmhmmm."
Hinkledolph Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2006.12.11 01:15:00 - [18] Your not allowed to mention any country that isn't in North America or Europe with anything negative or else your a racist.
Nerogen VanderWerf Integrated Enterprises Gemini Federation	Posted - 2006.12.11 01:16:00 - [19] so are you saying we chinese are all ISK farmers now? that is just pure racist
Evol1 J.H.E.N.R Pure.	Posted - 2006.12.11 01:24:00 - [20] Originally by: Soporo Edited by: Soporo on 11/12/2006 01:05:55 If it really bothers you then post the location. Local Pies will see to the rest. Come to think of it,IF its truly Macros then they are probably hitting every lowsec plex. To the OP Names plz. Location(s) a bonus but not needed. K thx bye

Admiral Farragut	Posted - 2006.12.11 01:28:00 - [21] Originally by: Evol1 Originally by: Soporo Edited by: Soporo on 11/12/2006 01:05:55 If it really bothers you then post the location. Local Pies will see to the rest. Come to think of it,IF its truly Macros then they are probably hitting every lowsec plex. To the OP Names plz. Location(s) a bonus but not needed. K thx bye The main one with the three accounts is meng meng.
Xtro 2 Caldari Pre-nerfed Tactics	Posted - 2006.12.11 01:32:00 - [22] Originally by: Bl4zer Originally by: Xtro 2 some fair comments as above, but id be peeved if someone said all english geordie people were all X,Y,Z just because of where they are from. Are all Geordie girls not slappers then? u got me there... . Xtro 2 - Tactically Insane Tradesman. Insanity, or madness, is a semi-permanent, severe mental disorder typically stemming from a form of mental illness.
Yurii Chan	Posted - 2006.12.11 01:39:00 - [23] chinese or not should not be relevant! they are iskfarmers/macroers whatever you want but to say "CHINESE isk farmers" is just wrong honestly you (and anyone else who starts stupid posts like these) should be banned from the forums. as for your issue, if its a 5/10 complex how bout you grow a pair and shoot them? that'll put a nice dent in their income and they might just leave the area. plus they're in ravens, CALDARI NAVY RAVENS no less, what pirate doesnt want that killmail and possible faction loot. so sure, come on the forums, advertise their location but ffs quit issuing a nationality to their action. (even if they actually were chinese) ps - on the subject, can some mod please make up a rule to stop this slandering?!
J Frost Gallente The Tafflington Trust	Posted - 2006.12.11 01:41:00 - [24] Look, as long as they are not macro-mining, they are not illegal. The game rule did NOT say that one individual is NOT allowed to run complex repeatly for a long period of time. You hate it because it bothers you, and I can really understand that. However, stop whining and do something if you can. Farmers are pretty good PVE pilots, but MAY not be good PVPers. So, just smash them down with ur gang, or asking for help in local channels, instead of complaining, or even whining with ur racist topic title. There are a lot of farmers from China, I know, but also farmers from other countries. I don't think you are able to see the deference between Japanese / Korean / Chinese or even Thai since they are all multi-byte characters. Even by looking through the web cam, personally, I can't see the difference between American and European. Yes, I'm Chinese pilot.
Synapse Archae Amarr Solarflare Heavy Industries	Posted - 2006.12.11 01:56:00 - [25] Edited by: Synapse Archae on 11/12/2006 01:57:03 Its doable, but not by a single player or a small group. You need a medium sized corp with a good coverage in all timezones. Elsewise they will just come back in 3 or 4 hours and get you at your weak point. You need enough players to make it unprofitable for them to come in at any time of the day. That takes hard work from I would say at least 40 active pilots. Enough to maintain 3-5 available PVP battleships whenever the farmers show. The good news is a plex does give out enough money to support a corp like that. - - - These elite slaves are exceptionally well suited for physical labor.
Shimakaze Caldari The Intergalactic Federation Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.11 02:10:00 - [26] Originally by: Cadela Fria The reason why we think they're chinese, is because they usually are...not only is their english really poor, but the ensuing chinese characters like someone mentioned, is a definite pointer. There is nothing anti-asian about it...I don't hate asians at all, nor have anything against them. I do however, have something against macro-miners or any kind of isk farming for the purpose of selling for real money. The fact that most of them just HAPPEN to be chinese or of that sort, is too bad, but thats the reality of it. I, nor anyone else besides themselves made it that way. The point is that the OP was specific about a particular type of farmers, namely Chinese. If he would've just said farmers in general then it's all fine and dainty, but the implication here seems to suggest that any other types of farmers are okay. The terminology here needs to be refined.
Allantia Caldari FW Inc	Posted - 2006.12.11 02:20:00 - [27] Originally by: Synapse Archae That said, however, I can confirm that farmers DO go away. Usuaully after you cost them the first 3-5 battleships they leave for greener pastures. They dont have to hang around your complex and they know it. I guess the persistent ones are in our neck of the woods then. But hey, as long as they stay out of my favorite NPCing systems and continue to come bearing gifts of Arby launchers, BCS IIs and Dread Guri mods (after they go pop), I'll be happy to keep killing 'em.
J Frost Gallente The Tafflington Trust	Posted - 2006.12.11 02:27:00 - [28] There are 3 reasons for me to hate this post. 1) Chinese farmer do exist, but they are not the only farmer group in EVE or any other online games. 2) Complaining the farmers would not be fair enough, while the rule here is: Demand made up the market. So, ISK buyers should be blamed as well. 3) I hate ppl whining when they realized that the fact is they're too weak to deal with their own problems while others are ruling legally. It's like a child looses a battle with another for a piece of candy and run into his mom, crying and whining 'That guy is so mean'. You got my drift? Anyway, I'm outta here, or otherwise I may be envolved in the argument and blamed by words like 'You Chinese are all like xxxxxxxxx' kinda things.
Kenneys	Posted - 2006.12.11 02:29:00 - [29] Farmers aside which i hate... Referring to them as a whole as chinese. That's a different story. Think of it this way.. muslims in general hate americans. Why? because they voted for george bush. If you bothered to work out the details, only 53% of them did. And how many % of americans do muslims hate? 100%. Same thing goes with american's views on asians/chinese isk farmers.
Ingols	Posted - 2006.12.11 02:35:00 - [30] There is nothing anti-asian about guessing that the farmers are asian. It's a good percentage guess, thats all. Yes there is a little bit of steorotyping going on, but its not bad. To me, the stereotypical Asian is studious, hard working, tenacious, understands the value of good grades in school and gets them. Strong family units, industrious, and a decent percentage of them are innovative if not down right creative. Further asian stereotypes are Vietnamese -- Aggressive, Japanese -- Bold and courageous, Korean -- Somewhat arrogant but tolerant and friendly, Chinese -- studious, tenacious, exacting. Now, anybody have anything bad to say about my stereotypical view of Asians?



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