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Matar Ronin
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Posted - 2015.08.23 13:03:53 -
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Of one thing I am sure, the premeditated murder of the crew of the Titan Seraph must not be forgotten. The speed of their brutal execution left scant time for any to reach escape pods. The Drifters came to murder, and they did not stop until jamyl sarum was a corpse in space.
I humbly offer this prayer to the One True God of the Matari people to forgive and accept the crew of the Titan Seraph. Be sure they were members of all races in the demonic slavery cult of New Eden including slaves of Matari and Gallente blood. We have all been blooded in this murderous criminal attack.
"Almighty God of my ancestors, accept the souls of these sinners and victims alike, some followed the evil path not because they were all evil people, but because they had been over the course of their life's indoctrinated by false beliefs and diid not know better. Many had family, friends, faith, and loyalty, please forgive their blindness an embrace them in the loving arms of your mercy and forgiveness, in the name of your Emissary I beg of this from you The One True Almighty God."
GÇÿVain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.GÇÖ
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Markus Error
Her Majesty's Crown Corporation
52
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Posted - 2015.08.23 13:14:21 -
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Nice to see someone paying their respects... many capsuleers seem to forget that even their ships have baseliner crews aboard.
"The spirits are not the wise elders many are led to believe. The spirits are not the almighty. The spirits are not our gods, nor our inferiors; they are our companions. And with them, the will of the Minmatar is unbreakable." -The Shaman's Way
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1190
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Posted - 2015.08.23 13:48:04 -
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No hard numbers have been released yet, but the normal crew compliment for an Avatar-class titan fluctuates in the 90-110,000 range, depending on mission loadout. If we include the Empress's likely detachments of marines and bodyguards, I would anticipate this to be nearer the upper end of the scale, and perhaps even exceeding the 110,000 mark, depending on the modifications of the TES Seraph.
That said, the Seraph's hulk, like that of many titans when they sustain fatal levels of damage, is in many respects intact. It's entirely possible that significant numbers of the crew, dignitaries, and other personnel were able to reach escape pods before atmospheric venting and life support failures killed them. They were, fortunately, not under sustained fire and smartbomb exposure the way many titans that are destroyed are. |
Jili Tonari
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
150
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Posted - 2015.08.23 14:03:30 -
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I still have zero compassion for the Slaver Empress or her slaver crew. They undocked, they knew the risks and the got what they deserved.
I will extend a prayer and light a candle for the enslaved Matari who were no doubt a part of that ship's crew. They did not deserve to be a part of what happened.
And I place the blame for their deaths not only on the Drifters but on the Amarr who knowingly put them in the line of fire.
GÇ£Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search of our better selves.GÇ¥
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Neph
Operation Meatshield
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Posted - 2015.08.24 01:45:42 -
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Sorry you feel that way, Jill. Nobody deserved that. It's not like they signed to serve on a cruiser in Delve,they were crew on a ceremonial titan in highsec. I extend my compassion to the families of all those killed aboard the Seraph. |
Vollhov
Senators of Eridan Red Alliance
187
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Posted - 2015.08.24 02:02:09 -
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Jili Tonari wrote:I still have zero compassion for the Slaver Empress or her slaver crew. They undocked, they knew the risks and the got what they deserved.
I will extend a prayer and light a candle for the enslaved Matari who were no doubt a part of that ship's crew. They did not deserve to be a part of what happened.
And I place the blame for their deaths not only on the Drifters but on the Amarr who knowingly put them in the line of fire.
Under the reign of Empress Jamyl Sarum it was not enslaved by any system. On the contrary there were attempts to release slaves. https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Jamyl_I#Emancipation Pray to their gods to the throne is not ascended Kor-Azor. Sorry for my English |
Ginia Itonula
State Protectorate Caldari State
96
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Posted - 2015.08.24 06:28:57 -
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Markus Error wrote:Nice to see someone paying their respects... many capsuleers seem to forget that even their ships have baseliner crews aboard.
Part of why I love frigates so much is that I know my rather frequent and embarrassing mistakes won't make orphans. |
Utari Onzo
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
630
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Posted - 2015.08.24 06:41:45 -
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While I am disappointed to see the usual tropes of 'death cult' and Slaver Empress being thrown around (funny when she released more slaves then any Minmatar ever did) I too pray for the crew of the Seraph, slaves, freemen, all of them.
"Face the enemy as a solid wall
For faith is your armor
And through it, the enemy will find no breach
Wrap your arms around the enemy
For faith is your fire
And with it, burn away his evil"
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Neph
Operation Meatshield
5
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Posted - 2015.08.24 06:46:14 -
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Utari Onzo wrote:(funny when she released more slaves then any Minmatar ever did)
While I hold the memory of Jamyl Sarum in great respect and, regardless of the motives behind the move, am endlessly grateful and honored by the 9th generation release edict and the firmness with which it was enforced, one has to admit that her destruction of the Elder Fleet rather hampered Matari efforts to free the enslaved people of Amarr. |
Leon Zhost
Zhost Industries
4
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Posted - 2015.08.24 06:51:24 -
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Don't waste a prayer on those Amarr slavers. Pray for our brothers and sisters in chains. Pray for the souls of the Elder Fleet.
And pray that the Drifter's keep their fury directed at these Amarr bastards. I won't shed a tear for a single one of them. |
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Math'ra Hiede
Trinity's Vanguard
34
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Posted - 2015.08.24 07:55:07 -
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Leon Zhost wrote:Don't waste a prayer on those Amarr slavers. Pray for our brothers and sisters in chains. Pray for the souls of the Elder Fleet.
And pray that the Drifter's keep their fury directed at these Amarr bastards. I won't shed a tear for a single one of them.
Your pathetic vitriol for the Empire will be your downfall you mewling worm. The crew of that ship did nothing directly to harm you or your own. As others have stated the Empress did more for emancipation and Matari Liberation than any in generations and did so without bloodshed, unlike the 'Elder Fleet' which murdered and ravaged their way into a position to forcibly drag untold numbers from their homes.
When the Drifters come for you, we will not weep either. Instead turn our backs and return the sentiments you show here. |
Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
1361
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Posted - 2015.08.24 08:00:14 -
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Neph wrote:Utari Onzo wrote:(funny when she released more slaves then any Minmatar ever did) While I hold the memory of Jamyl Sarum in great respect and, regardless of the motives behind the move, am endlessly grateful and honored by the 9th generation release edict and the firmness with which it was enforced, one has to admit that her destruction of the Elder Fleet rather hampered Matari efforts to free the enslaved people of Amarr.
Maybe it showed that the Elder Fleet was as vain as Vak'Atioth.
Maybe Midular quiet, subtle efforts, bore more fruit than this flamboyant act... |
Leon Zhost
Zhost Industries
4
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Posted - 2015.08.24 17:35:45 -
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Only the truly deranged would call that woman compassionate.
Claiming that the Empresses was some sort of humanitarian because she released the 9th generation of slaves is like claiming a hostage-taker is merciful when he releases one hostage after murdering a hundred others. The blood of thousands of my people are on the hands of Amarr. The Drifters are nothing compared to the true monsters our own galaxy has unleashed. |
Sinti Vailatti
Royal Khanid Colonial Exploration
35
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Posted - 2015.08.24 17:48:08 -
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Jili Tonari wrote:I still have zero compassion for the Slaver Empress or her slaver crew. They undocked, they knew the risks and the got what they deserved.
I will extend a prayer and light a candle for the enslaved Matari who were no doubt a part of that ship's crew. They did not deserve to be a part of what happened.
And I place the blame for their deaths not only on the Drifters but on the Amarr who knowingly put them in the line of fire.
I can agree with mourning the deaths of the Matari who were on-board as support personnel.
As for the rest of your statements these last few days...I was a slave of Amarr. I was lucky to have a good House and a lot of opportunity. We should talk sometime, not in this forum to see where the middle ground in all this is.
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Solu Terona
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
24
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Posted - 2015.08.24 18:10:38 -
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Markus Error wrote:Nice to see someone paying their respects... many capsuleers seem to forget that even their ships have baseliner crews aboard.
Are you kidding? Ever shown up to a new baseliners first day and watch them trip over themselves when they realize that the "Ship Lieutenant" has ports in the back of their neck? Try it sometime, gotta have some fun when you're immortal.
"The Stars will forever call to their children."
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Aria Jenneth
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
1454
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Posted - 2015.08.24 18:18:54 -
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Solu Terona wrote:Markus Error wrote:Nice to see someone paying their respects... many capsuleers seem to forget that even their ships have baseliner crews aboard. Are you kidding? Ever shown up to a new baseliners first day and watch them trip over themselves when they realize that the "Ship Lieutenant" has ports in the back of their neck? Try it sometime, gotta have some fun when you're immortal. She's not kidding.
Until recently, I was really unclear on exactly how many crew members my Jackdaw has. I'd never boarded it without being in my pod.
It's more than I thought.
(Also: not immortal. Just a little more complicated to kill properly.) |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1239
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Posted - 2015.08.24 19:16:56 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote:Until recently, I was really unclear on exactly how many crew members my Jackdaw has. I'd never boarded it without being in my pod.
It's more than I thought.
Too many of us fall into this trap - I've even met capsuleers who believe their battleships have no crew. Ever since B-R, I've made a point of getting out of the goo as often as I can - even making sure to maintain my own quarters on all of my ships. It's something I encourage all capsuleers to do, to reconnect with your crews.
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Neph
Operation Meatshield
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Posted - 2015.08.24 19:41:38 -
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Lyn Farel wrote:Neph wrote:Utari Onzo wrote:(funny when she released more slaves then any Minmatar ever did) While I hold the memory of Jamyl Sarum in great respect and, regardless of the motives behind the move, am endlessly grateful and honored by the 9th generation release edict and the firmness with which it was enforced, one has to admit that her destruction of the Elder Fleet rather hampered Matari efforts to free the enslaved people of Amarr. Maybe it showed that the Elder Fleet was as vain as Vak'Atioth. Maybe Midular quiet, subtle efforts, bore more fruit than this flamboyant act...
I don't disagree that the Elder invasion was an endlessly foolish move that could have destabilized the entire cluster. However, I'd argue it wouldn't have been in vain if not for the Superweapon's construction and use, which, by the way, was an equally endlessly foolish move.
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Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
2468
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Posted - 2015.08.24 19:43:04 -
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Is it really that uncommon to mingle with your crew? I regularly mix with my crews during training, shakedowns, and after-hours functions. I'm only their superior on paper, in my opinion - it's mostly a genetic fluke.
No wonder so many eggs get so scrambled. |
Solu Terona
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
36
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Posted - 2015.08.24 19:46:14 -
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Arrendis wrote:Aria Jenneth wrote:Until recently, I was really unclear on exactly how many crew members my Jackdaw has. I'd never boarded it without being in my pod.
It's more than I thought. Too many of us fall into this trap - I've even met capsuleers who believe their battleships have no crew. Ever since B-R, I've made a point of getting out of the goo as often as I can - even making sure to maintain my own quarters on all of my ships. It's something I encourage all capsuleers to do, to reconnect with your crews.
This is not a statement i thought I'd ever hear from a goon, color me impressed.
"The Stars will forever call to their children."
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Lyn Farel
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
1370
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Posted - 2015.08.24 22:18:10 -
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Neph wrote:I don't disagree that the Elder invasion was an endlessly foolish move that could have destabilized the entire cluster. However, I'd argue it wouldn't have been in vain if not for the Superweapon's construction and use, which, by the way, was an equally endlessly foolish move.
If it is already hard to say with current detachment, how hard is it before taking the actual decision... ?
Scherezad wrote:Is it really that uncommon to mingle with your crew? I regularly mix with my crews during training, shakedowns, and after-hours functions. I'm only their superior on paper, in my opinion - it's mostly a genetic fluke.
No wonder so many eggs get so scrambled.
That... is admirable Ms Scherezad... |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1244
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Posted - 2015.08.24 22:59:17 -
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Solu Terona wrote:This is not a statement i thought I'd ever hear from a goon, color me impressed.
None of us are the caricature we use to keep the cluster at arm's reach.
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Ginia Itonula
State Protectorate Caldari State
98
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Posted - 2015.08.25 03:59:46 -
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Arrendis wrote:Solu Terona wrote:This is not a statement i thought I'd ever hear from a goon, color me impressed. None of us are the caricature we use to keep the cluster at arm's reach.
The biggest problem with propaganda isn't when it fails, it's when it succeeds too spectacularly. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1259
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Posted - 2015.08.25 04:58:05 -
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Ginia Itonula wrote:The biggest problem with propaganda isn't when it fails, it's when it succeeds too spectacularly.
I don't know that I'd go that far... but we do certainly use it to present to the cluster an exterior that is not welcoming, and is not happy to engage in idle chatter. We want you to stay away, in general. We have our lives, and the Empires' influences aren't wanted.
So we make sure you hate us, fear us, despise us... anything to keep you from actually trying to talk to us...
... especially the way some of our leadership loves to talk... |
Solu Terona
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
40
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Posted - 2015.08.25 06:27:36 -
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Arrendis wrote:Ginia Itonula wrote:The biggest problem with propaganda isn't when it fails, it's when it succeeds too spectacularly. I don't know that I'd go that far... but we do certainly use it to present to the cluster an exterior that is not welcoming, and is not happy to engage in idle chatter. We want you to stay away, in general. We have our lives, and the Empires' influences aren't wanted. So we make sure you hate us, fear us, despise us... anything to keep you from actually trying to talk to us... ... especially the way some of our leadership loves to talk... How is Mittens by the way? Haven't heard anything about him in quite some time.
"The Stars will forever call to their children."
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1263
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Posted - 2015.08.25 06:59:40 -
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Solu Terona wrote:How is Mittens by the way? Haven't heard anything about him in quite some time.
He's fine. Busy, but you know, that's the life of a space tyrant I suppose... spent a few hours with him in fleet in F-Y today. |
Sorjat
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
89
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Posted - 2015.08.25 13:21:08 -
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Being Gallente and not prone to prayer I won't pray for the crew of the Seraph any more than the crew of the Shiigeru over Caldari Prime. I was in point of fact praying that my comrades not only destroy that ship but liberate that planet. As for praying for all the other ship crews across New Eden I simply don't have the time.
On the other hand I suggest you pray for yourselves... At a crucial time in the Drifter war not only have Drifters demonstrated remarkable military prowess but they have an equally powerful intelligence network. I pray the other empires have made note of this...
Also note that with the Empress dead the inevitable jockeying for power will begin within the empire. I might humbly suggest that this is not a good time for an internal fight when faced with such a powerful external threat.
Pray for a transition that can unite rather than divide.
Insanity is not hubris, not pride; it is inflation of the ego to its ultimate - confusion between him who worships and that which is worshipped. Man has not eaten God; God has eaten man.
-- PKD
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Neph
Operation Meatshield
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Posted - 2015.08.25 14:22:33 -
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At least Shiigeru was mostly evacuated... |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade
5445
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Posted - 2015.08.25 15:22:53 -
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Neph wrote:At least Shiigeru was mostly evacuated...
It becomes apparent that losing the ship was part of Admiral Yanala's plan to save the planet - and her people from ourselves. She was a remarkable woman and an inspiration as a leader. She occupies a place in my heart that before had always been solely occupied by Mathias Sobaseki and Yakiya Tovil-Toba.
"Caldari Prime burns, those left behind are choking on the dust and ash that fills the air, and you demand our surrender? Is this a joke? You have only hardened our resolve. Every drop of blood you have taken from us will be repaid -- with interest."
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Matar Ronin
941
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Posted - 2015.08.29 15:03:47 -
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My thanks to all of you who put aside your nationalism long enough to remember that we are all human. The mass murdering of so many humans by a fleet with that sole goal, accomplished so quickly is unprecedented.
The brief incursion that followed in the khanid kingdom demonstrates that the Drifter taste for human death has not yet been satisfied. Our need to know more facts about them and how their technology operates has never been greater.
May all the humans murdered rest in peace knowing their sacrifice will be remembered by many as the warning that aroused a divided humanity and started moving us towards unified action to protect our right of continued inhabitance of the New Eden Cluster.
GÇÿVain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.GÇÖ
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