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Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
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Posted - 2015.08.24 01:31:58 -
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Greetings Pod Peeps.
As a former Arek'Jaalan associate I've been pondering the Drifter issue.
This is purely speculative but I find myself wondering if they might be rogue Sansha drones of some kind that managed to assimilate Sleeper tech.
There seem to be a few notable coincidences like their reliance on cybernetic enhancements, being found in Jspace where Sansha wrecks and Sleeper ruins are in proximity, to mention a couple.
The way they seem to progressively adapt and improve themselves over time, suggests to me relatively new beings that belie their appearance of ancient technology.
It is a big puzzle to be sure, and while in between "movie and chill" sessions with a platoon of Federal Marines I was entertaining I thought I would put in these musings to the greater community. |
Tabris Katz
New Moon Harvesters
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Posted - 2015.08.24 02:38:58 -
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But we also see Blood Raider, Angel Cartel, Guristas Pirates, and Serpentis Corp ruins in J-space. I sincerely doubt there is any connection between Drifters and Sansha's Nation or any other pirate faction. As far as I can tell, fullerite based technology still eludes them. Lets hope it remains that way. |
Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
466
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Posted - 2015.08.24 03:07:49 -
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I was thinking more specifically of the new J systems like Thera with all the shattered planets. Sansha Revenant carrier husks have been found in some of them I've heard, in close proximity to Talocan and Sleeper structures? |
Tabris Katz
New Moon Harvesters
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Posted - 2015.08.24 03:46:34 -
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Hmmmm, I've only been to a few of those shattered systems but I didn't get to explore around them to much. If there are husk of revenants in there it would an ominous sign indeed. |
Saede Riordan
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
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Posted - 2015.08.24 04:12:37 -
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It is my opinion after having explored a great deal of Anoikis, that the drifters are not Sansha or any other group besides some possible resurgence of the original sleeper empire. While yes, some shattered systems do contain Sansha Vessels, and even entire sansha task forces, its clear from signs of conflict that Sansha and the sleepers were doing battle in what has since become the shattered systems. In some of these systems, the sleepers appear to have held the field, while in others, Sansha forces still patrol.
However, there are also a set of 'drifter' wormholes that have been identified, containing massive space structures whose construction matches no known design techniques. These wormholes are fortified, built up, and crawling with drifters. They clearly are not Sansha, and in fact there is yet to be any sign of Sansha presence within the drifter systems.
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Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.08.24 05:43:10 -
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In this situation and the evidence presented, the more plausible answer based on the technological difference between sansha and drifters is that the Sansha have been making use of ancient technology, possibly that which was drifter in origin.
The most notable pieces of technology is the ability to make use of artificial wormholes. The events of the Sansha resurgence is sure signs of this. There are many reports on the topic as well as footage to support this. I would call it undeniable.
My personal theory however is that artificial wormhole creation is not some piece of ship board equipment. Salvaged nation vessels and repeated deep scans of them found nothing that would indicate as such. Instead, I have long theorized that the wormholes that interconnect the systems of Anoikis are in fact all artificial. I have long found it odd that we never have a wormhole that connects to deep space. Even more that they have a general location of connection. This makes me believe it is similar to function of our jumpgate networks.
Most probably, there is a whole host of structures who job it is to create connections between systems. Prior to the Seyllin Incident, we had absolutely no wormholes aside from the New Eden one. There can be no debate that scientists of the era were undoubtedly studying this. Perhaps they achieved artificial wormholes. But a misstep caused the Cataclysm. Those ancients would have made use of ancient technology just as we do now. Did they get the bugs out? Whatever Caused the Seyllin incident perhaps rebooted these systems but without any sort of control, are just firing up randomly. It is far too controlled to be natural. At least to our scientific knowledge.
For example, in the early part of the sansha invasions, Kuvakei had an extremely massive operation at planet Deltole VI. None larger I saw before or since. I thought nothing of it until recently when going through old records and discovered that was a center for one of the other ancient races. Perhaps it wasn't just the promised land or slaves Kuvakei was looking for...
I am getting off topic a bit though. Essentially if there is an artificial wormhole system and kuvakei has control, then it also stands to reason he would go places that we might not have any access to. Drifters might have even been the creators of it.
Much like when the empires first made contact, it could be simply a case of the Sansha or somebody made a first contact with the drifters. It didn't go well. When we discovered them, they discovered us. The footage from Tukoss suggest they are not playing games. |
Yockerbow
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.08.24 19:04:09 -
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The integration of mind with machine, and the unity of purpose the Drifters exhibit is almost a perfect manifestation of what Sansha Kuvakei was trying to accomplish during the birth of his Nation. They are, however, much more advanced than anything ever found linked with Kuvakei and more advanced than the Sleepers as well. The Nation's Incursion vessels show clear signs of being developed using Sleeper tech, but nothing even close to that of the Drifters.
If Kuvakei had created anything close to this, based on his increasing public megalomania during the first Incursions, he would be incapable of not taking credit. If he had cause to think the Drifter technology was evolved from his own, he would stop at nothing to acquire as much of it as possible. That being said, I wonder what he would pay for samples...
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