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swordslasher
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.13 00:33:00 -
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Edited by: swordslasher on 13/12/2006 00:33:45
Originally by: OzaLoni sword - pic or stfu on the titan!
End of story!
Que?
emperor was his name, Ceo of ROME. great guy. Go talk to him.
Originally by: LeMoose RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Shirei
Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.12.13 00:33:00 -
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Edited by: Shirei on 13/12/2006 00:33:57
Originally by: swordslasher You do not get re-aggro when you are logged. If titan logs at 5:45 with 15 minute timer, and you show up at 5:57 - titan will disappear at 6:00 - PERIOD. ALWAYS. EVERY TIME. I've scrambled pods for 15 minutes solid and they ALWAYS DISAPPEAR EVERY TIME AFTER THE TIMER IS UP. There's no such thing as 'extending aggro timer for someone who is logged off'.
That is 100% correct.
However, CYVOK's titan was blown up less than 10 minutes after he logged according to all evidence (videos, killmails, etc.) that have been around. 
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OzaLoni
Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.13 00:35:00 -
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It got reimbursed? proof or stfu? Last I heard was ccp said its dead and staying dead.
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Tricit
Caldari Dark Entropy iPOD Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.13 00:35:00 -
[184]
Originally by: Lone Bear Did I ever talked to you about how Tic and Tac (my beavers) ate my PC power suply line and costed me a Bantam?
I swear I thought it was a devil hax of doom from ninja guristas till I noticed my poor lil fellas and the smell 
Proof or stfu??? I'm sure thousands of people want proof. Let it out prz.
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Xeliya
Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2006.12.13 00:37:00 -
[185]
Edited by: Xeliya on 13/12/2006 00:38:02 First it's you tell ASCN people your logging off. Then you say you were switching computers. Then your crashed and had a jump in queue but no one else had it. The your power went out. Now your computer just rebooted out of the blue.
Which is it? Nice to see the real you shine, just lost all respect for you on your post. I think my 4 year old Nephew couldn't act more childish even if he was bribed.
ASCN stand up, kick Steve and John out and take over, leaders can only lead people who want them to lead! Any of you could do better then them. ----------
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prathe
Minmatar Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.13 00:38:00 -
[186]
as for OP good write-up but i believe it should be delivered in song
not enough umphh
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Karl Chroimcer
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2006.12.13 00:39:00 -
[187]
Please play nice guys, I really don't want this thread to be locked like the last one.
Please avoid flaming/trolling and any off topic discussion.
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OzaLoni
Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.13 00:41:00 -
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Originally by: Karl Chroimcer Please play nice guys, I really don't want this thread to be locked like the last one.
Please avoid flaming/trolling and any off topic discussion.
Completed agree dude, but at the end of the day there is just one question. Has/or will it get reimbursed?
Nothing else apart from forums rules are important right now!
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swordslasher
Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.13 00:41:00 -
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Originally by: Shirei Edited by: Shirei on 13/12/2006 00:33:57
Originally by: swordslasher You do not get re-aggro when you are logged. If titan logs at 5:45 with 15 minute timer, and you show up at 5:57 - titan will disappear at 6:00 - PERIOD. ALWAYS. EVERY TIME. I've scrambled pods for 15 minutes solid and they ALWAYS DISAPPEAR EVERY TIME AFTER THE TIMER IS UP. There's no such thing as 'extending aggro timer for someone who is logged off'.
That is 100% correct.
However, CYVOK's titan was blown up less than 10 minutes after he logged according to all evidence (videos, killmails, etc.) that have been around. 
so you're saying he logged out less than 10 minutes after he lit off the DD like an idiot? Right.
here's the word from the horses mouth:
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The covert ops pilot had been keeping track of when the DD was fired, and discovered that CYVOK had logged with two minutes to spare on his aggro timer.
Two minutes to spare? 15-2 = 13
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The entire fleet was warped in, dreadnaughts, carriers, and motherships included. After the dreads had entered into siege, the ship took approximately 4-6 minutes to kill.
13+4 = 17 (3 minutes over) which suggests, that by the covert ops's time (which I bet keeps better time than you), and the way BOB says it themselves, the titan ran 3 minutes over aggro timer even assuming he logged with an agg timer at all - or in this case, crashed, whatever.
Tell me though, via video, and killmail, how exactly do you read his gamelogs? I'd like to know that one myself.
Originally by: LeMoose RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Shirei
Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.12.13 00:45:00 -
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Edited by: Shirei on 13/12/2006 00:45:21
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Originally by: swordslasher That is 100% correct.
However, CYVOK's titan was blown up less than 10 minutes after he logged according to all evidence (videos, killmails, etc.) that have been around. 
so you're saying he logged out less than 10 minutes after he lit off the DD like an idiot? Right.
Now try reading again, I said 10 minutes after he logged out.
The way the PvP timer works is 'if you log within 15 minutes after aggroing someone or being aggroed, your ship takes 15 minutes to disappear, otherwise your ship takes 1 minute to disappear'. So if you log within 15 minutes of aggroing, your ship will stay another 15 minutes at a spot 1m km from where you logged off. If you log after 15 minutes, your ship will stay for 1 minute.
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Aeon Yakati
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.13 00:46:00 -
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Originally by: swordslasher
RTFM
He logged within the 15 minutes after his last aggression.
That initiated the 2nd agression timer of 15 minutes on the titan, and cancelling the first timer
The killing of the titan initiated the 3rd agression timer on the pod, making it stay in space for a total lenght of 15 minutes.
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Karl Chroimcer
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2006.12.13 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: OzaLoni
Originally by: Karl Chroimcer Please play nice guys, I really don't want this thread to be locked like the last one.
Please avoid flaming/trolling and any off topic discussion.
Completed agree dude, but at the end of the day there is just one question. Has/or will it get reimbursed?
Nothing else apart from forums rules are important right now!
I cant answer that, GMs will decide if it shall be reimbursed or not and the answer is confidential between the petitioner and the GM.
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Capt Rob
Minmatar Constructive Influence
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Posted - 2006.12.13 00:49:00 -
[193]
This is an interesting read and gj bob, but i must say that if the new probes etc can be so accurate and in such short time, maby a bit overpowered?
Signature removed due to inappropriate content. -Ivan K |

IntegralHellsing
Gallente The Raven Warriors
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Posted - 2006.12.13 00:49:00 -
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if you log before your timer runs out, your ship stays for another 15 minutes. (i know this because i was trying to kill a freighter pilot in low sec. he was aggressed at gate, then he logged. from that point, it took him 15 minutes to disappear. shame i forgot about timer though )
so if CYVOK logged within 15 minutes of aggro time, (that means, his aggro hasn't run out) he stays at wherever he is for 15 more minutes. but as BoB scanned down the titan and destroyed it before 15 minutes was up, i don't think it would get reimbursed. ------------------------------
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Lone Bear
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.13 00:51:00 -
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Edited by: Lone Bear on 13/12/2006 00:53:41 deleted , no image allowed 
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Farjung
Gallente TAOSP Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.13 00:54:00 -
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Swordslasher, how do you know there was a bug involved here? I'm well aware of this bug, which is why I personally check that TAOSP's capital ships disappear from space after they've logged off, but there's no reason to assume it occured here. Did you have CYVOK in your addressbook and take note of when he logged off? Are you 100% certain that he waited out his log-off timer before logging? So far the only person who has said that is him, but wouldn't you be trying to cover your ass after just getting however many months-worth of your alliance's hard work blown up due to your own negligence? This bug has occured before, and it has been petitioned, and when it's a genuine case the GMs will return it. But it's well-publicised that CYVOK has petitioned the loss, and from the tone of his response in this thread, one would assume his petition was unsuccessful.
He's already left a couple of holes in his story; first there's the sleazy innuendo that his PC was somehow interfered with ("my computer restarted without warning, something aside from that day that has never happened before.") Then he goes on to claim that his logs clearly show this that and the other. As various people have pointed out, including someone in his own alliance, but I do believe it bears repeating; if your client crashes, or PC restarts, or router drops, or ISP has a melt down, or are in any way disconnected from the server apart from closing the client properly, the logs from your current session aren't saved. Very easy to verify for yourself if you think I'm just spinning propaganda.
So, first claiming his PC restarted by itself, and then claiming his logs show exactly what happened up until the instant he got disconnected, we have inconsistency #1.
#2 - if BoB really had hacked him or sent their ninjas around with wire-cutters, as CYVOK seems to be implying, why would they wait until the purported two minutes after his aggro timer was up to pull the plug on him? It doesn't make any sense - if we were really using OOG (and obviously incredibly illegal) methods, we'd have done it while we were certain he was under PvP timer, not wait until two minutes afterwards. So, another contradiction from a man looking to blame everyone but himself, it appears. ---
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Deathwing
Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.13 00:56:00 -
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Edited by: Deathwing on 13/12/2006 01:01:26 Cyvok
This is just another example of why you will not win this war with us in the end. You do not have the strength, experience or the resolve to do what it takes to win a war, especially against BoB. Crying about exploits, hax, computer problems, GMÆs and DevÆs do not win wars. We win wars. Plain and simple.
Not only has BoB been waging wars all over Eve since long before you were even conjured out of something from the septic tank, but the individual corporations that make up BoB were waging wars long before the concept of BoB was formed. The history these corps have in Eve spawns from the earliest days of Eve. A lot of us were also Alpha/Beta testers of Eve.
You have said that ôNo one has ever faced BoB for this long and been still aliveö or whatever it is you say, actually you are wrong. BoB has been involved in several wars that lasted a long long time. The GNW was epic in size an length. But BoB prevailed in the end because we have resolve. You want to know how we win wars? Its pretty simple really. It is because we will not go away, we will not quit, we will not tire and we will not stop stomping you all over the face of Eve until we say you are done. We will crush you and your alliance in space. We will humiliate you in front of the rest of the Eve community for the failures that you are, though you are doing a grand enough job of that already I might point out. And when we are done all of this, we will do it again, until you cry mercy and beg for it to stop.
We have taken one region for you so far. We have captured one of your stations in Feyth that will now act as a foothold into the region. We have taken your symbol of pride and strength for your alliance and returned it to the junk pile it was constructed from. Soon Feyth will fall and you will be left with nothing. You better hope Sir MolleàyesàItÆs Sir Molle to you, has the slightest shred of compassion for you. If you are lucky, he may entertain ideas of letting corps in ASCN defect from the region and letting them safely remove their assets.
Face it, BoB is the pinnical of force and power in Eve. We are 3 time Alliance Tournament Champions. We have humiliated anyone we have decided to bless with our attention, be it on the battle field, the forumsàor local chan.
Your probably wondering ôWhats next? What more can BoB possibly do to us that they havenÆt already done. TheyÆve taken a region, they have taken outposts, and now they have destroyed our Titanö ItÆs simple Cyvokà..moreàWe are going to keep on comingàcoming until all the time..all the iskàall the effort you guys put into building a viable 0.0 home for yourselvesàis crushedàand just another acquisition of BoB.
Id find a solution to your problems soon. The longer you wait, the less likely Sir Molle is going to entertain your ideas of leaving our spaceàyesàour space, with all of your assets.
Myself and the rest of BoB as usual, look forward to seeing you in space Cyvok. Bring your imparior, we will take that to.
<Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |

Elliot Reid
Digital Fury Corporation
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Posted - 2006.12.13 00:58:00 -
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I know this is against the EULA of EVE but I'd bet everything I own that others in ASCN would know CYVOK's login details in case of an emergency such as, say, an accidental log off in an agro'd Titan (I'm sure this'll be denied) of course ).
Now say I was high up in ASCN's command structure and our one and only Titan Pilot in his Titan, whilst still under the aggression timer, disconnected from the game AND TS (or whatever voice comms are used) and didn't come back onto voice in a matter of seconds, I think I'd get someone who'd know the account details to log it on asap and do whats needed to keep it safe. I'm sure the owner of the account would be very grateful.
What do I know though? I'm just a nobody. _______________________________
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KSUDruid
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.13 00:59:00 -
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CYVOK Logged 13 minutes after he last agressed something.
This is not contested. This timeframe is proven over and over.
By doing this, he reset his agrro timer to 15 minutes from the time he logged.
This is not contested. It is a well documented feature of the PVP agro timer.
Valora Scanned him down, found his ship, called in the fleet, and subsequently destroyed him.
This is not contested.
Logging with Agro, getting scanned down, and subsequently destroyed is something ASCN do time and time again. They do it with frigates, cruisers, battleships, a carrier (one time I believe) and now their titan.
All of this is within game mechanics. The timelines were established, the timelines have been proven. The Kill was Valid, and the kill will stand. No matter what you WANT to believe or want to claim, the numbers don't lie. I'll say it again, in bold to make sure you understand:
The Numbers Don't Lie.
The kill is legit. Cause he wasn't online a bit hollow perhaps... but 100% legit.
Thanks for playing.
-Druid
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Kane Ululani
REUNI0N Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.13 01:03:00 -
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Originally by: HankMurphy
Is the wreck still there?
Is it permanent fixture i can take a corp field trip to, like devs suggested?
Real question, can matari board it? 
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John Leitch
Gallente Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada
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Posted - 2006.12.13 01:27:00 -
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Edited by: John Leitch on 13/12/2006 01:27:52 I forsee the image below, appearing on a lot of signatures over the next few days!!
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Red Six
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.13 01:28:00 -
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Originally by: Kane Ululani
Originally by: HankMurphy
Is the wreck still there?
Is it permanent fixture i can take a corp field trip to, like devs suggested?
Real question, can matari board it? 
I've already placed my duct tape order to fix this baby up. Imagine how many 1400 II's I can weld to that much scrap metal! 
Originally by: Eridu Fallen
Upon closer inspection, that Caldari BS doesn't even look like it got hit with the ugly stick, it looks like it *is* the ugly stick.
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Nadine Desaix
Minmatar Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2006.12.13 01:34:00 -
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Originally by: CYVOK Molle, the trash you and your slaves come up to justify your BS never ceases to amaze me.
For the record I did not log off, my computer restarted without warning, something aside from that day that has never happened before. Other then that, my game logs clearly show my arrgo timer ware off 2 minutes before I was out of game. On top of that I could not log back in.
Nice job trying to cover up what really took place, looks like you have all your bases covered yet again.
Yet another pointless achievement by the Band of Bull-sh**, canÆt beat a bunch of "care bears" on the field of battle so you have to lie, cheat and steal your way thru the war.
Congratulations indeed, enjoy your empty "victories".
-CYVOK-
You sir, are pathetic. How about you just admit that you've lost it through your own stupidity for once? You've lost almost every engagement, lost 52 capital ships, and all this is through no fault of your own? This entire war you've done nothing but acuse BoB of cheating, hacking and god knows what else. Perhaps you just can't face facts. How about you go stick your childish attitude in a block of concrete and sink it in the ocean. This is not kindergarten. It makes me sad to say that my opinion of anyone in Eve has never been so low as that of you. Minister of Leaky Ethics and Spiffiness |

Oreh Anavrin
No Quarter.
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Posted - 2006.12.13 01:43:00 -
[204]
Hmm, I wonder if even cyvok believes what he says these days.
Can't beat you on the field of battle? Are you kidding, didnt you lose a ludacris amount of battleships to BoB without killing any? I could find the topic if you like. Lame 
Good work BoB, you are winning the war fair and squre and all you get to hear is wah wah wah.
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Leno
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.12.13 01:52:00 -
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this whole story makes me feel all warm and fuzzy --------------- RIP - Smoske, My Friend
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Aramova
Gallente Catalyst Reaction Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.13 01:53:00 -
[206]
Originally by: CYVOK Molle, the trash you and your slaves come up to justify your BS never ceases to amaze me.
For the record I did not log off, my computer restarted without warning, something aside from that day that has never happened before. Other then that, my game logs clearly show my arrgo timer ware off 2 minutes before I was out of game. On top of that I could not log back in.
Nice job trying to cover up what really took place, looks like you have all your bases covered yet again.
Yet another pointless achievement by the Band of Bull-sh**, canÆt beat a bunch of "care bears" on the field of battle so you have to lie, cheat and steal your way thru the war.
Congratulations indeed, enjoy your empty "victories".
-CYVOK-

Judging from the quotes from your own corp mates that you where on teamspeak throughout, I find that hard to buy.
In addition, combat logs do not show when combat timers expire, they simply show when the last damage was done. Even if your combat timer wore off 2 minutes prior to the convenient crash of your computer, you couldn't see that from the combat logs, nor does Eve give a crash event in the logs.
Here is some simple math for you...
Originally by: Valora Hi, the DD went off at 18:14. I got my first scan result on the Titan at 18:28 and CYVOK was offline. Not much else to it!
18:14 - 18:28 leaves a minute to warp to you, and tag, you're it. Scan results do show in logs, in case you're wondering.
I really do feel sorry for ASCN at this point. Not only are the events of "accidental" DD deployments well known, but the utter lack of care while piloting the Avatar led to the loss of months of work for the entire alliance.
GG BOB, Sorry ASCN, as for Cyvok... --
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MoeStyles
Catalyst Reaction Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.13 02:05:00 -
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It's too bad that instead of coming up with an intelligent response that demonstrates calm and composure, Cyvok resorts to petty name calling and pointless ranting.
I wonder how long it is going to take for the rest of ASCN to catch on to the Cyvok playbook and start jumping ship.... --
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Marvel Master
Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.13 02:06:00 -
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Edited by: Marvel Master on 13/12/2006 02:11:09 And what do we learn from this?!
Jump out your titan from the combat area and hide it far, far away.  or - You need a better backbone - You need a second Computer - are not so horny onto your wife and confound 13 minutes with 15. *g*
And the time will come, if the last four big aliances will fight with their 5-20 titans against each other. And this is good. ;-)
Marvel
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Hot Cocoa
Minmatar United Negro College Fund
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Posted - 2006.12.13 02:17:00 -
[209]
Originally by: CYVOK Molle, the trash you and your slaves come up to justify your BS never ceases to amaze me.
For the record I did not log off, my computer restarted without warning, something aside from that day that has never happened before. Other then that, my game logs clearly show my arrgo timer ware off 2 minutes before I was out of game. On top of that I could not log back in.
Nice job trying to cover up what really took place, looks like you have all your bases covered yet again.
Yet another pointless achievement by the Band of Bull-sh**, canÆt beat a bunch of "care bears" on the field of battle so you have to lie, cheat and steal your way thru the war.
Congratulations indeed, enjoy your empty "victories".
-CYVOK-
weaksauce.
i feel bad for those who have fought so hard for you tbh. they deserve so much more than the empty heat you post like that after building what they have for you.
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Beringe
Caldari Raptus Regaliter
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Posted - 2006.12.13 02:22:00 -
[210]
Nice kill.
CYVOK was a fool for fielding it without a fleet in the first place. ------------------------------------------- "Sarcasm and irony are not to be used by the uninitiated."
--Daitan Beringe, honorary director in charge of bottles-- |
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