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IChooseYou
Tradors'R'us
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Posted - 2016.11.17 00:48:04 -
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Do not trust these guys. They take you under contract for the agreed upon sum, then ask you to change your vulnerability timers to their prime time so that they can protect you, and proceeding to kill your structures.
Anyone who wants proof, mail me. I am in the process of compiling everything. I will also be streaming the Fortizar defense here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6d11UfxIQgSFvClx86HSSg
Let's give these guys the worst reputation possible.
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IChooseYou
Tradors'R'us
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Posted - 2016.11.17 15:02:00 -
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renwahh wrote:
Sooo here come the questions
1 How much did they charge you 2 Why the heck would you change your timers to suit somebody your paying?. 3 Did they take monies then dec you or is this citadel in the scary low sec /null 4 Do you like cheese?
Please take your time answering as I need to go grocery store for tinfoil hat, popcorn (butter) and a large poking stick
1. I was paying 1.5bil bil a month to defend any group of 20 or less with the option of paying an extra 3.5bil for a particular defense, in which case VMG would call its allies, PIRATE and others; 2. I trusted them because was an idiot. VMG had one of the best reputations out there. Help me change that (even though I know that you alliance is allied with VMG)!; 3. Yes. I have a mail specifically stating "isk for the month of November sent". I also have the log of me sending the isk. I will be disclosing everything when I get back from work. The fortizars they hit are in High Sec. 4. I ******* love cheese. Do you know what a Raclette Cheese Melter is? I just bought one two weeks ago! Delicious.
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IChooseYou
Tradors'R'us
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Posted - 2016.11.17 15:27:37 -
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Natural CloneKiller wrote:
VMG received intel in relation to the client that cannot be disclosed here. An unfortunate set of events have unfolded and the 1.5 bil will be refunded.
The 1.5 bil a month was always a **** take for the value of the assets and our fleet. Either way with the intel gathered we are happy to send a refund.
See you on the field.
Can this mysterious intel be disclosed to me privately? And what about the fact that yesterday you told me that the war dec was a mistake, and that you would correct it? Was that also based on intel that cannot be disclosed here?
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IChooseYou
Tradors'R'us
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Posted - 2016.11.17 15:59:43 -
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Do you really believe in the mysterious intel? It is BS. I have CloneKiller admitting in a mail he just sent me that they were hired to hit me by another client.
I will forward it to you right now.
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IChooseYou
Tradors'R'us
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Posted - 2016.11.17 17:32:27 -
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Khromius wrote:
Serendipity Lost,
Please forgive us. I will be forwarding a full report to you along with all related intel on this contract. I will also include all of our other clients and contracts so that you can review and give approval.
Please stand by,
VMG
I'd love to see this package also. All I have are mails from Natural CloneKiller saying sorry for the betrayal, and confirming that this is being done on behalf of a new client.
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IChooseYou
Tradors'R'us
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Posted - 2016.11.18 03:32:23 -
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Vimsy, it is the fact that they did it after asking me to change my timers to their TZ and without warning or diplomacy that makes such that they cannot be trusted. These guys make a living on defence contracts. The only way they can justify people paying them several bil up front is if they can build some sort of trust with their clients. For example, people are willing to pay Chribba up front because they trust him - even though they don't actually trust their counterpart in a given transaction. No one in eve needs to be trust worthy, but there are several benefits associated with being so.
VMG had built a reputation in many people's eyes and threw it away for no reason other than a few extra bil. Petty and shortsighted for such a large organization in my opinion.
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IChooseYou
Tradors'R'us
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Posted - 2016.11.18 06:32:21 -
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Rosal Milag wrote:Your group needs to issue a public statement with full disclosure of what happened. Names and specific details are not necessary but right now the general feeling is that your word is not worth the ink used for the contract. Your company accepted a defense contract then immediately broke it. Any future client is going to want to know why. Otherwise, they will wonder if they are next.
There is no good answer for them to give. This screenshot shows that they just took on another client and betrayed me.
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IChooseYou
Tradors'R'us
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Posted - 2016.11.18 16:04:12 -
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So where is this mysterious intel that I am missing? Also, you said you refunded me. Does this include the cost of the fortizars? I haven't seen any deposits from you whatsoever - but maybe it is just me and I missed it.
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IChooseYou
Tradors'R'us
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Posted - 2016.11.23 16:28:38 -
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Ras Blumin wrote:Natural CloneKiller wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:...Anyone who happens to drop a contract with them over it will rapidly find their structures being shot at by VMG themselves and with few options for defense. Everytime you post I do wish you were in VMG and active....just saying =ƒÿë So it's more like a "protection" scheme then. Have you considered changing your name to Vendetta Mobster Group? Or would that be too truthful for your liking?
Mobsters actually protect you when you are under their protection. VMG doesn't. After being under their protection for a few weeks, they ask you to change your timers to their prime time and then they backstab you. That is what they did to me. If you have any questions, I have screenshots to prove everything.
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IChooseYou
Tradors'R'us
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Posted - 2016.11.23 22:16:49 -
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Estray Lassils wrote:
Jane Galt, you still here? You entered a contract under false premises. It would be ridiculous to fulfill a protection contract with someone we have vowed to hunt down as long they play eve. Next time, don't engage in deception about your true identity.
You and CloneKiller know very well that I am not Jane Galt. I have mails from your directors confirming that the reason that you betrayed me is because you were paid a lump sum to do so. Don't try to make up some bs about me being someone that I am not. At least CloneKiller accepts that you guys acted without honour.
Edit: I know that Jane was into shaddy stuff. If you do have a mail of her impersonating me and saying we are the same person, I would love to see it and report it.
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IChooseYou
Tradors'R'us
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Posted - 2016.11.30 22:32:17 -
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I want a free beer.
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IChooseYou
Tradors'R'us IChooseYou Holdings
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Posted - 2017.05.04 19:30:31 -
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I have had my differences with VMG in the past, but today they made a decision that impressed me - and thank them for it.
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IChooseYou
Tradors'R'us IChooseYou Holdings
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Posted - 2017.05.09 16:41:03 -
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Natural CloneKiller wrote:Hire VMG today.
We are offering free cookies and cream with Any new contract.
New clients always get the best deals.
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