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WALAMOSHU
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Posted - 2015.09.04 03:02:35 -
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Hi yall. I'm bout almost done training for the Phoenix :) :), and I wanted some insight for proper fittings for C5s. Can somma yall be so kind enough and give me an honest vedict on my solo C5 Phoenix fit pretty please?
Phoenix C5 Smasher Fit
Highs Citadel Torpedo Launcher I ~ guritas inferno citadel torpedos Citadel Torpedo Launcher I ~ guritas inferno citadel torpedos Citadel Torpedo Launcher I ~ guritas inferno citadel torpedos Siege Module II
Mids Pithum C-Type EM Ward Amplifier Pithum C-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field Capital Shield Booster I Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Phase Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Phase Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Lows Damage Control II Republic Fleet Ballistic Control System Republic Fleet Ballistic Control System Missile Guidance Enhancer II Missile Guidance Enhancer II
Rigs Capital Capacitor Control Circuit II Capital Capacitor Control Circuit II Capital Capacitor Control Circuit I |

WALAMOSHU
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.09.09 06:32:49 -
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KC Kamikaze wrote:I really wish i had an argument against hating on the phoenix but i don't. I turned my phoenix pilot into a chimera pilot 
I was told that the Phoenix was the best C5 solo Dread over a year ago, were they lying? I hate people lying to me. I'll quit this friggin game if my Phoenix actually sucks.
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WALAMOSHU
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.09.10 08:46:03 -
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KC Kamikaze wrote:WALAMOSHU wrote:KC Kamikaze wrote:I really wish i had an argument against hating on the phoenix but i don't. I turned my phoenix pilot into a chimera pilot  I was told that the Phoenix was the best C5 solo Dread over a year ago, were they lying? I hate people lying to me. I'll quit this friggin game if my Phoenix actually sucks. For solo dread the Moros is hands down the best one and I don't mean like 5% better than a nag or rev .. it's like 50% better dps. The phoenix is the worst. It has it's place in structure grinding and having ridiculous tank or blapping n00bs if your character name contains some combination of lord and servant, but none of those things help you kill sleepers.
WOW.......like just WOW. I should've never listened to those idiots on reddit. They were going on and on about the Phoenix not needing any tracking mods and can fit full tank + Dps and own C5s. It's not fair, missiles suppose to be the best weapon system for PVE so why is the Phoenix so bad? Now what......., you said you turned yours into a Chimera? How long will that take and what is the Chimera good for? |

WALAMOSHU
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.09.10 08:50:48 -
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Jack Miton wrote:WALAMOSHU wrote:KC Kamikaze wrote:I really wish i had an argument against hating on the phoenix but i don't. I turned my phoenix pilot into a chimera pilot  I was told that the Phoenix was the best C5 solo Dread over a year ago, were they lying? I hate people lying to me. I'll quit this friggin game if my Phoenix actually sucks. Can I have your stuff?
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WALAMOSHU
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.09.11 04:13:39 -
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KC Kamikaze wrote:WALAMOSHU wrote:KC Kamikaze wrote:WALAMOSHU wrote:KC Kamikaze wrote:I really wish i had an argument against hating on the phoenix but i don't. I turned my phoenix pilot into a chimera pilot  I was told that the Phoenix was the best C5 solo Dread over a year ago, were they lying? I hate people lying to me. I'll quit this friggin game if my Phoenix actually sucks. For solo dread the Moros is hands down the best one and I don't mean like 5% better than a nag or rev .. it's like 50% better dps. The phoenix is the worst. It has it's place in structure grinding and having ridiculous tank or blapping n00bs if your character name contains some combination of lord and servant, but none of those things help you kill sleepers. WOW.......like just WOW. I should've never listened to those idiots on reddit. They were going on and on about the Phoenix not needing any tracking mods and can fit full tank + Dps and own C5s. It's not fair, missiles suppose to be the best weapon system for PVE so why is the Phoenix so bad? Now what......., you said you turned yours into a Chimera? How long will that take and what is the Chimera good for? First don't listen to Kynric. Even in a black hole the phoenix is still bad. He has obviously never used a moros. Can the phoenix be used? Yes. But it's like 10 minutes work for each wave compared to 2 minutes in a moros. Depending on the jump and drone skills you already have trained it might not take too long. You could use him to trigger another escalation wave when you run sites. Keep your phoenix though if you live in a pulsar cause eventually DuraLexx will come knocking and a phoenix isn't bad for dread blapping.
Ty Kamikaze, your posts are the best here and I'll listen to you. I'm getting some ideas on how to use my Phoenix now. My skills for the Phoenix aren't maxed yet. I made this post to verify if the Phoenix was worth maxing or to finish training for the Golem. All I have is missiles trained, limited drones, and no gunnery, so I'm stuck with the missile boats unfortunately.
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WALAMOSHU
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.09.11 04:14:57 -
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Trinkets friend wrote:I dunno, I have been honing my solo Peenix for C4 BH soloing.
It's like a Golem. But cheaper.
How much can you make in those? |

WALAMOSHU
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.09.12 05:01:53 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:I trieda phoenix both on Sisi and on tranquility.
Results are as follows:
Torps dont work. cant handle battleships speed and sig radius even with crash and paints and new missile computers.
Cruise is the way to go. Max cruise, max links inc. info link, 2 boosted paints, t2 expl velocity rigs, 2-3 missile computers, and phoenix max skills hits for 15k reliably, no need for warp-ins like with turret dreads.
heres the problem.
A flight of sleepers neuts the cap of a phoenix dry in no time. Because you spend so many mid-slots on target paints and computers, you dont have enough to sustain cap drain for your tank.
I found that you need 3 siege cycles with a phoenix to clear an escalation wave, because you need to refit from damage projection to cap regen every 2 minutes. Basically, 2 sleepers per siege cycle, then refit for cap and tank.
A nag can do it in half a siege cycle, but you need to set warp-ins, and if sleepers get out of range, you will need max computers and tracking pill to barely hit. Nag also hits harder, for 20k.
Conclusion:
Phoenix will only work in a black hole. And even then capacitor might be problem. In normal holes, use nag or moros.
Adendum:
2 phoenix working in tandem is sleeper murder. 1 phoenix does dps, another phoenix tanks and does **** dps - and no need for warp-ins. One warps at 10 one warps at 30, both drop depot.
But solo, no. Only in black hole, and even there will have issue
So Cool, Thank you so much for this wealth of info. So 2 Phoenixs are golden for C5s eh. This is good to know because I was about to give up on maxing the Phoenix to finish training for the Golem. I'll start converting my Rattler toon for the Phoenix as well........which will be another 4-5 months, sigh. Guess that means no C5 soloing for me for a while, but at least I don't feel like an idiot anymore thinking how I wasted a year and a half training for this Phoenix. Also I need to train the Info Warefare Link Specialization skill on my OGB toon, ty so much for that tip.
Does using SiSi interfere with TQ? How do you set that up?
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WALAMOSHU
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.09.22 03:56:08 -
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Delt0r Garsk wrote:Trinkets friend wrote:d0cTeR9 wrote:Jack Miton wrote:I've still cunfused as to why someone voluntarily trained a Phoenix as their first dread... I was flying a phoenix doing large capital fights before most of you started to play. That's why there's phoenix pilots. As for the new one's... no idea... So, you were using the Phoenix before it was buffed and buffed again and got the MGC and MGE, which shows you have terrible abilities to do maths and fly things that are useful for fleets, corporations and alliances to have. Except you did it years ago. Because the older the stupidity, the more it makes the young people look dumber than you are, despite the fact that the phoenix these days has been buffed and got new modules which are, quite literally, game changers. This is literally "I wasted my olde timey time and money being terrible at this game, and I didn't keep up with the meta, which makes you all worse than me. p.s. i'm better than you, just look at my SP's!"Go back to your adult diapers, grandpa, and leave the blapping to the young 'uns. You are such a troll. It is called painters and cruise missiles. As like 1000 ppl have pointed out on the new missile mod thread. Painters are more effective + cruise.
One of the reasons why I post a thread a little before this one for CCP to release a Rapid Cruise Missile Launcher for the Phoenix. But lots of folks trash the idea because they fear the Phoenix will become a BOSS if it got one. Seems most of everyone enjoys seeing the Phoenix in it's current state, but I thought it was really good for C5 WHs (C4s seems a bit overkill for the Phoenix). |
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