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Seleene
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.15 10:32:00 -
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Back at FanFest I was talking to some of the moderators about the current state and layout of the EVE-O forums. At the top of the list was our beloved Corporation, Alliance and Organization Discussions forum.
IMO the CAOD forum needs to be updated in order to reflect the growing user base and cater to more than just the 'super forum *****s' of EVE. Back when the max number of players online every night was 3500, this forum was fine. Today, with that many people in some alliances, it's starting to feel a bit crowded.
I would propose that CCP take the current CAOD forum and break it down a bit, much like has been done with the Market section. These sections could be:
Alliance News & Discussions
Simple - if it's 'big stuff' like war decs, or ASCN / BoB - like point and counterpoint, it goes in here. This is actually the current state of COAD and that's not good because it means that if you're not one of the 'big boys', chances are that anything you post will be ignored, overlooked or ridiculed. This new section would function mainly as "World News".
Corporation News & Discussions
This would be more of a "Local News" section. Not everyone knows or even cares about D2 or BoB or MC. There are thousands of corps in this game who would probably love to get involved in the politics of EVE but are quite simply afraid of being smothered beneath the weight of "OMG CYVOK BLEW UP MORE OF HIS OWN SHIPS WITH HIS AVATAR!!11one-eleven!11!!" threads.
Let's give other, smaller folk, a chance to get involved as well. This would also allow some of the corps in the bigger alliances a way to talk more about their corp and no so much about their alliance.
Gossip & Spies
This one is a bit controversial.
The best thing that happened recently was the banning of all alt posts on CAOD. However, it also took a bit of the spark out of the forums. Alts were often the catalyst for some of the most explosive / fun threads in this section. Spying and gossip are very much a part of the real world political mainstream and alts are the equivalent of the real world's 'anonymous tipper'.
This could be the 'Alts Gone Wild' section. Got a chat log or dirty secret? Want to expose where the thermal exhaust port is on that new Juggernaught-class (<--Tech 5 omgz!) ship? This is where you post it. Flames, passion, lies, kill board linksą anything goes in here. It's the National Enquirer of the forums.
So, that's my pitch in a nutshell. Good? Bad? Crazy? More sections? Leave things as they are? Discuss. -
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Virtuozzo
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.15 10:34:00 -
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Makes sense. Been a while since something here did, it might even stop the degrading but only if monitored closely enough.
Virtuozzo
RECRUITMENT TEASERS. Last words of a Caldari general: "Pull the Ravens back! Full retreat! they've got frigates!" |
Lag Fest
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.15 10:36:00 -
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omg gossip&spies... i can already see it.. it should be called "Tinfoil Hats" or something like that.. _______________________________________ |
Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.15 10:37:00 -
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Sounds like a plan to meee. -----
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Miss Overlord
Gallente Ferrum Pugnus New Eve Order
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Posted - 2006.12.15 10:39:00 -
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good idea
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Helen
STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.15 10:40:00 -
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Yeah because what we really need is more stuff to distract us from playing the game. Damm forums, I'm like a moth to the light lately...
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.15 10:44:00 -
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Originally by: Helen Yeah because what we really need is more stuff to distract us from playing the game. Damm forums, I'm like a moth to the light lately...
And youre loving every second of it. FLIH INTOE TEH LIEGHT! -----
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Astarte Nosferatu
MBN Holding Corporation
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Posted - 2006.12.15 10:45:00 -
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I agree some changes in the forum lay-out are required. Try finding one of the new T2 BPO's for sale in the Sell Orders section, you need to wade through ten pages of GTC-sales and character auctions first.
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Hilder
Amarr British Industrialist and Transportation Services
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Posted - 2006.12.15 10:52:00 -
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I think this would be a good thing!
There should be a smack-only section just for flames.
---------------------- Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves...
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Gunstar Zero
Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.15 10:54:00 -
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Edited by: Gunstar Zero on 15/12/2006 10:54:01 sounds like a good idea to me, but I'm no forum scientist.
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Broska
FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.15 10:54:00 -
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Sounds like a good idea. But could we get a BoB and ASCN a section of their own together so that they can flame each other in peace. ------------------------------
Originally by: Tovarishch flying a Scorp into a fleet battle is like parking a pink moped in front of a biker bar - you will die... quickly.
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Omeega
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.15 10:54:00 -
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or... you could just hire me as a forum mod for one day and see how the moderation needs to be done russki style.
PICTURE TOO BIG, KGB INCOMING HAVE FUN.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Omeega
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.15 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: Broska Sounds like a good idea. But could we get a BoB and ASCN a section of their own together so that they can flame each other in peace.
more like a BOB vs their enemy thread
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.15 10:57:00 -
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This would be good. I like this idea. Even though the implementation between alliance and corp is sure to become a headache.
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.15 10:59:00 -
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The alt section would be impossible to moderate ( or close enough to that anyway ) so I doubt that'll happen. Other suggestion is a good one though if you ask me.
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darth solo
Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.12.15 11:05:00 -
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aye may be a good idea.
the main problems with these forums though is the total lack of respect.
Iv been here for a long time and its just got worse.. its a build up of hate over all the years by a certain group of players.
I think that needs sorted first by the mods.
d solo.
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.15 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: darth solo aye may be a good idea.
the main problems with these forums though is the total lack of respect.
Iv been here for a long time and its just got worse.. its a build up of hate over all the years by a certain group of players.
I think that needs sorted first by the mods.
d solo.
I remember a time where it was even worse, ( time of the other JC ), but it's pretty close to being like that again though. Sad really.
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Razor Jaxx
Fate.
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Posted - 2006.12.15 11:09:00 -
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Good idea, Sel.
I'd also like to see an in-character, and possibly moderated, Combat Report / History section, where people get an account, hopefully as unbiased as possible, of events unfolding in other parts of the galaxy. Digi's write-up of the Titan's destruction comes to mind as a good example, and I'd really enjoy more of those.
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.15 11:12:00 -
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Originally by: Razor Jaxx Good idea, Sel.
I'd also like to see an in-character, and possibly moderated, Combat Report / History section, where people get an account, hopefully as unbiased as possible, of events unfolding in other parts of the galaxy. Digi's write-up of the Titan's destruction comes to mind as a good example, and I'd really enjoy more of those.
Even if it was unbiased, although that is pretty much impossible to begin with, especially when in-character, people wouldn't actually agree on it being unbiased. So pretty pointless. And besides, we have a place already for that sort of stuff... well kinda anyway.
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Ciras
Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.15 11:13:00 -
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Originally by: darth solo aye may be a good idea.
the main problems with these forums though is the total lack of respect.
Agreed. One of the reasons I seldom read/post on forums. It's like being stuck in detention at a local middle school.
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Sinlare
Gallente Sinlare Auditorium
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Posted - 2006.12.15 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: darth solo aye may be a good idea.
the main problems with these forums though is the total lack of respect.
Iv been here for a long time and its just got worse.. its a build up of hate over all the years by a certain group of players.
I think that needs sorted first by the mods.
d solo.
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End Yourself
Core Domination
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Posted - 2006.12.15 11:30:00 -
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Edited by: End Yourself on 15/12/2006 11:33:14
Originally by: Seleene Moved from CAOD - Karl
Yay for the excrescent moderation on these boards! \o/
Doesn't make sense if the OP wants to discuss splitting up ONE forum section to discuss it EXACTLY in that section with those players who use that section, does it?
@OP Really like the idea: Finally a section where i'm allowed to discuss stuff that isn't allowed to be discussed again. Or at least use alts at the receiving end of the warning.
--- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
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Lorn Yeager
Gallente Blessed Souls
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Posted - 2006.12.15 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: End Yourself
Originally by: Seleene Moved from CAOD - Karl
Yay for the excrescent moderation on these boards! \o/
Doesn't make sense if the OP wants to discuss splitting up ONE forum section to discuss it EXACTLY in that section with those players who use that section, does it?
Omg man, dont discuss the moderation. *hides*
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Lorn Yeager Blessed Souls
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Max Hammer
SPECTRE Ops
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Posted - 2006.12.15 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: Lorn Yeager
Originally by: End Yourself
Originally by: Seleene Moved from CAOD - Karl
Yay for the excrescent moderation on these boards! \o/
Doesn't make sense if the OP wants to discuss splitting up ONE forum section to discuss it EXACTLY in that section with those players who use that section, does it?
Omg man, dont discuss the moderation. *hides*
He moved it to wrong forum anyway, shouldn't be in General should be in Features&Ideas -----------------
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End Yourself
Core Domination
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Posted - 2006.12.15 11:37:00 -
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Originally by: Lorn Yeager
Originally by: End Yourself
Originally by: Seleene Moved from CAOD - Karl
Yay for the excrescent moderation on these boards! \o/
Doesn't make sense if the OP wants to discuss splitting up ONE forum section to discuss it EXACTLY in that section with those players who use that section, does it?
Omg man, dont discuss the moderation. *hides*
Me? Discuss the moderation?!?
Just wanted to chuck Karl a coffee to wake him up, ask him nicely to read the OP again and move it back to where it belongs.
--- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.15 11:42:00 -
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Originally by: Max Hammer
Originally by: Lorn Yeager
Originally by: End Yourself
Originally by: Seleene Moved from CAOD - Karl
Yay for the excrescent moderation on these boards! \o/
Doesn't make sense if the OP wants to discuss splitting up ONE forum section to discuss it EXACTLY in that section with those players who use that section, does it?
Omg man, dont discuss the moderation. *hides*
He moved it to wrong forum anyway, shouldn't be in General should be in Features&Ideas
Yeah, took me a while to find it agian... this was the last place I expected it to end really...
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Stamm
Amarr Three Holdings Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.12.15 11:44:00 -
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This would be worthwhile progress.
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Leandro Salazar
Aeon Industries Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2006.12.15 11:49:00 -
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Before they do this they really ought to sort the sell orders forum. GTCs and char sales need their own damn section, its a major pita to find real stuff among all the damn GTCs and characters... And no, the new contracts has if anything INCREASED the need for the sell orders forum... --------- ZOMG my sig was concordokkened! Link removed due to bad language on remote site. -wystler
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Rau'ric Fitzrovia
Twisted Attitude
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Posted - 2006.12.15 11:53:00 -
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Edited by: Rau''ric Fitzrovia on 15/12/2006 12:04:47 Splitting up the CAOD forum into "Alliance News" and "Corporation News" would certainly benefit the little guy. Too many posts by small corporations get lost amongst the big guys threads. And usually shot down quite quickly.
The Gossip & Spies, Eve enquirer, tinfoil hatters, flame-tastic section - whatever you want to call it - might be too impractical; The temptation for informers to post their juicy gossip (or just plain delusions )in the Alliance News section would be too much.
If there was a facility to limit the Alliance News section to threads started only by alliance leaderships and diplomats then it might be more feasible. Note the word 'started'. Dunno how you could do that mind.
Edit: /me notes the moderation in this thread in answer to the last paragraph. Duh-huh.
Rau
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Tinkz
Miss Information's Agency
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Posted - 2006.12.15 12:01:00 -
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I have looked into my crystal ball and I foresee the future...
..next patch ccp introduce forum posting skills with specialisation skills available to allow more posts and specific forum sections.
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Juan Andalusian
TAOSP Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.15 12:02:00 -
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Just make CAOD and CAOD Unmoderated.
Any bets on which one will be used more?
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End Yourself
Core Domination
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Posted - 2006.12.15 12:08:00 -
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Originally by: Rau'ric Fitzrovia If there was a facility to limit the Alliance News section to threads started only by alliance leaderships and diplomats then it might be more feasible. Note the word 'started'. Dunno how you could do that mind.
One thing that i would really like to see is corp/alliance manageable titles that show inside forums for HC, diplomats...
Like;
Seleene Body Count Inc. - CEO Mercenary Coalition - High Command
Maybe even give their posts a bit of a special look. Not as eye-catching as Dev posts but maybe a bit like moderators or ISD.
Would be so much easier to spot the important posts within the mess. Maybe just have those titles in the alliance/corp section so they don't become airborne.
--- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.12.15 12:11:00 -
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I'd like to see that gossip section. And I have a lot to ask.
Maybe with the limitation that alts are not allowed to cut&paste from private forums and stuff like that in the gossip-section. Might be interesting sometimes, but somehow it would be quite lame, if some alt spies spammed that sections with internal corp and alliance infos non-stop.
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darth solo
Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.12.15 13:22:00 -
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Edited by: darth solo on 15/12/2006 13:22:39
Originally by: Sinlare
Originally by: darth solo aye may be a good idea.
the main problems with these forums though is the total lack of respect.
Iv been here for a long time and its just got worse.. its a build up of hate over all the years by a certain group of players.
I think that needs sorted first by the mods.
d solo.
Yes, people that just post threads to troll and get flames are sad indeed.
yay, a new stalker.
d solo.
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