Thats again Trebor for report.

Now, what did Hilmar meant by "Jesus features"???????????

My best guess is that he's trying to relate to Adam and Eve in the bible, which includes jesus.

But this is completely random.

UI: My favorite session, as usual. We saw mockups of the new NEOCOM, a new inventory management tool, and a new HUD. There was much discussion of better ways to present information to players during combat. The UI folks have been working hard and you will see some nice stuff from them in the future.

UI: My favorite session, as usual. We saw mockups of the new NEOCOM, a new inventory management tool, and a new HUD. There was much discussion of better ways to present information to players during combat. The UI folks have been working hard and you will see some nice stuff from them in the future.

Thats a little far streached: Jesus and Adam+Eve?

Maybe more of ... errr... or maybe .... nope, dont have a clue

Indeed it is, my closest guess is to create something that makes something else that currently is treated like jesus (Probably T3 ships or something) look like a piece of trash

Simplified, They're removing or adding something from CCP/EVE that is treated like jesus (with something mightier).

Web Cell: we saw some mockups of a new EVE outward-facing (for potential players) website that had some very nice features, and learned of plans to refocus EVE Gate to provide more information and tools for players.

New Player Experience: a broad discussion of ways to make the NPE better, get noobs hooked faster, and get them socially involved in EVE (ie: in a corp).

Art: Lots of eye candy. Improved noob ships (a CSM wishlist item). We also saw some early tests of new explosions, new ship destruction animations, nasty missile anime-tions, and more. Art department has been reorganized to be more flexible.

UI: My favorite session, as usual. We saw mockups of the new NEOCOM, a new inventory management tool, and a new HUD. There was much discussion of better ways to present information to players during combat. The UI folks have been working hard and you will see some nice stuff from them in the future.

Hilmar: We discussed the results of the meetings, and quizzed Hilmar about recent events of interest. As for details, you'll have to wait for the minutes, but here is a quote: "The age of the Jesus feature is over".

Or to put it another way, no more trying to hit a home run with some big awesome feature. Instead, lots of singles. Lots and lots of singles.

Web Cell: we saw some mockups of a new EVE outward-facing (for potential players) website that had some very nice features, and learned of plans to refocus EVE Gate to provide more information and tools for players.

Web Cell: we saw some mockups of a new EVE outward-facing (for potential players) website that had some very nice features, and learned of plans to refocus EVE Gate to provide more information and tools for players.

New Player Experience: a broad discussion of ways to make the NPE better, get noobs hooked faster, and get them socially involved in EVE (ie: in a corp).

Art: Lots of eye candy. Improved noob ships (a CSM wishlist item). We also saw some early tests of new explosions, new ship destruction animations, nasty missile anime-tions, and more. Art department has been reorganized to be more flexible.

UI: My favorite session, as usual. We saw mockups of the new NEOCOM, a new inventory management tool, and a new HUD. There was much discussion of better ways to present information to players during combat. The UI folks have been working hard and you will see some nice stuff from them in the future.

Hilmar: We discussed the results of the meetings, and quizzed Hilmar about recent events of interest. As for details, you'll have to wait for the minutes, but here is a quote: "The age of the Jesus feature is over".

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Any comment on what happened during the Microtransaction session of the third day Trebor?

Eve gate stuff: I can't get into details yet but webcell wants to add lots of functionality to both web and mobile access. And changing skills is obviously something they will consider. We also pushed for exposing more stuff via API.

Or to put it another way, no more trying to hit a home run with some big awesome feature. Instead, lots of singles. Lots and lots of singles.

Anything on bots? I am in high sec and managed to get a level 4 mission runner bot stuck in a loop. His loop is exactly 4 min and 32 seconds of checking his mission for the Damsel (which I stole) and docking, undocking, warping back to mission, not moving for a few seconds and then redocking and repeating this process. As I type this he is on loop number 22. So for over an hour he is stuck in his bot loop. lol

Funny, but I would love to see more action and much faster to crush these bot users who ruin this game.

did you reported him as bot?

Yup. He is still there. Botting his face off as I type this.

I added him to my address book. Will be interesting to see if he is ever kicked/logs in/etc.

CSM began to say "So what abut the NEx sto...", then all CCPs present collapsed into shaky heaps of flesh, panicly howling "No, no, 10,000 volts not again!", then CCP Punkturis came in dresed like a viking nurse and scolded the CSM for being so insensitive and sent them onto the next session.

Make a video of his antics, I'm sure it would be riveting watching.

Thanks for the write-up Vile.

One thing I will say that if you're that worried about breaching NDA then the NDA needs to be more clear in its scope. Considering the importance of such a document I'd have though it would have been very clearly defined.

Thanks, Vile Rat.

Now I understand that WiS is officially the half-cooked feature that will be broken for the next 5 years. Frigganwesome.

Well they got this idea right? When things aren't going on and we're all hanging out in station we can walk around, interact, hell we could maybe even see the ships outside! (windows exist you know...) and maybe we can open up businesses and actually have a working sims like economy it would be a fun immersion aspect!

Only there's deadlines. Things don't go exactly as planned, features slip, the quality isn't what they expected from a CCP product. They bust their ass trying to make this all work but this deadline is approaching and Incarna has been hyped up like WHOAH cause it's a game changer.

What? We might be able to get exactly one small captains quarters done? We hyped the hell out of this great idea to only be able to deliver this?

Incarna.

There's nobody trying to make excuses, they know what went wrong and it's systemic. I'd say that's the real theme of the Crucible expansion. They've found the rot and are actively working to make the company right so they can get back to making the product right. I don't want to blow sunshine up your asses and say everything is great and oh man nothing but awesomeness from here on out, but there's a strong sense that it's going to take real work on the core game to win us back and they're going to do it.

Glad for you, but read my signature.

Please don't get the impression what I've said directly addresses anything that you have in your signature, because it doesn't. I was giving overall impressions, not specific examples or anything tangible. For that you'll have to wait for the minutes.

49 days and 1,337 posts later, still no CCP has commented on the WiS thread*, and apparently you didn't talked about the issue at the meeting neither... a deafening silence, isn't it?

*here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=244597#post244597

Have you been paying attention? WiS rollout wasn't their finest hour. If you're trying to build a groundswell of players who think that space dollies should take precedence over fixing all the problems with the core gameplay, good luck to you but I'm not on your side on this one.

Have you been paying attention? WiS rollout wasn't their finest hour. If you're trying to build a groundswell of players who think that space dollies should take precedence over fixing all the problems with the core gameplay, good luck to you but I'm not on your side on this one.

Precedence not. But neither become the next bloody feature to be abandoned for years after being released in a broken status.

Too put it in eve situation - it would took a loooooots of time and money and resources and unsubbed-bitter-vets to finally deliver cool WiS.
While at the same time it took just few months to deliver dozens of life changing fixes that made all eve players weep with joy like 5year old getting a lollipop.

True. Its little ironic to talk about fixing broken and abandoned stuff and openly negating newly introduced broken stuff :D

But truth to be told, what we have now is not a feature even. Its a promise of a feature we could have.

I'm sure You've all heard about Pareto-Lorenz-something Rule of 80%-20%?
It takes 20% of time/resources to acomplish 80% of any goal and another 80% ot time to get the last 20%. Its just one of those cosmic rules that work to some degree in any part of life.

Too put it in eve situation - it would took a loooooots of time and money and resources and unsubbed-bitter-vets to finally deliver cool WiS.
While at the same time it took just few months to deliver dozens of life changing fixes that made all eve players weep with joy like 5year old getting a lollipop.

So with Pareto rule in mind, You go where least effort is required to gain most effect (20%) tahn You go with harder stuff to get the next 10% (50% of effort gets you 90% of effect) and than You got with huge-workload stuff to get that last 10%.

Not the other way around.

I'm sure You've all heard about Pareto-Lorenz-something Rule of 80%-20%?