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shadowhearth Eto
XYRESIC.
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Posted - 2015.09.23 22:59:44 -
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Embarrassing story out of the way first, so veterans can have a laugh call me noob. :)
I resubbed a month ago. Even if my character is a bit old I am still really noobish player. My first career was mining and then mission. Today I had some sort of unlucky stupid streak. Went in to mission "World collides" with my usual nightmare sniper setup. Did that mission a lot of times already with no issues. Well this time I got scrammed and webbed in second room. For the love of god I could not find that damn scram friggit it overview. So pop goes my ship. So I do next smart thing and bring my Navy apocalypse which I never used in this mission. Clean up second room, loot whatever left over from nightmare and decide to finish mission while I am here... Yup.... Same story in room 3. I did that mission so many times and this time everything that could go wrong, did. Needles to say after this I went straight for a cigarette. Though when I came back, I realised it was time for me to do what I actually wanted to do in eve. I was training for exploration and cloaking for a while so I could finally get out off high sec for the first time. I always had an excuse to not do it. Yup, I was just too comfortable in high sec, just doing same level 4 missions over and over. Mindless grind, but safe...
My next step was go to Jita, buy 7 Magnate and 7 sets of fits. Then moved it all to location near low sec I had my eye on. Unpack. Final step: YOLO!!! By the end of the playing session I managed to scan down some relic and data sites, learned mwd + cloack trick, learned to run away and see threats and most important - I am not that afraid of wilderness anymore!!! I managed to make 16mil in loot with a ship that costed less then 2 mil hehe( would have been a lot more profit, but my skills suck and at least half of containers exploded on me :( ) . On top of that I had way more fun while pooping myself in safe spots, while dude in hurricane camping me in a pocket system, then when I was flying battleship shooting npcs.
I know I made tiny money from my first venture in low sec, but I had a lot of fun and I have a lot more love to small cheap ships now. I still got plenty of isk left over even after my loss, I could buy at least 30 Asteros fully kitted, but I find a lot more fun now in making a lot more isk from something that costs less then a pint in a pub. :D
So now more training for exploration, more ventures to low sec and I finally will start looking for proper low sec or null sec Corp. :)
P.s. Yes, I know, I am an idiot, but at least something good came out of it. :)
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Memphis Baas
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Posted - 2015.09.24 00:10:55 -
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Cool story, good luck.
Just to follow up on that "couldn't find that damn scram frigate", go into your overview settings and make sure all the "mission drone", "pirate drone", and "NPC drone" (if that exists - can't check right now) are actually checked to show in the overview. Because every now and then CCP changes or adds a ship and it may be turned off by default.
And while you're at it, set up some overview tabs for PVP (player ships only), probing (ships, POS towers + shields, probes), and whatever else you feel like. There are some guides out there for setting up the overview, just google if you want some hints and tips. |
Moon Moon Burdy
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2015.09.24 02:05:30 -
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Meh, no need to google. All the info you need is right here in this thread.
Step 1) click that link ^^ Step 2) click a link in the thread I linked, read it, learn it, love it Step 3) repeat this process, read them all Step 4) ??? happy feelings ??? Step 5) profit Step 6) guide someone else to that thread.
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Storytime with Moon Moon
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Raffael Ramirez
Alcohol Fuelled The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2015.09.24 02:14:21 -
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Well done !
Welcome to the EvE multiplayer experience :) |
Tiberius Heth
Say No to Features
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Posted - 2015.09.24 06:02:16 -
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The "ah ha" moment, you just had it. Welcome to the real EVE, step outside your comfort zone and suddenly the game stops being a boring grind. You might even become a filthy PVPer at some point *gasp*. |
Remi Renaud
Outbound Confederation
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Posted - 2015.09.24 06:28:24 -
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Extra tip: You can also ctrl+click the scrambled/webbed icon on your hud to automatically target the offending ship.
I hope you have better luck in low and null sec. It's always great news when people move in. |
shadowhearth Eto
XYRESIC.
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Posted - 2015.09.24 09:23:53 -
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Remi Renaud wrote:Extra tip: You can also ctrl+click the scrambled/webbed icon on your hud to automatically target the offending ship.
I hope you have better luck in low and null sec. It's always great news when people move in.
Cheers for that tip! I knew there should be something like this, but I could not find it hehe.
And cheers for good word lads, I was expecting a lot more slagging, but I guess not too many Irish lads here. :D
I still need to do few more things. Main thing will be to make an overview which would show up only player ships in D-scan. The stock PVP one shows way too much crap like Stations, gates, towers etc. I found that menu before, but I lost it... Finding corp that lives and controls low or null sec area. I want to focus on exploration in dangerous areas, but being close to PVP would get me in to real action. The other thing - getting 1440p monitor is back on priority list. I need a lot of stuff on screen, so extra space is not just handy, but vital!
As mentioned above, getting out of your comfort zone is the most important thing. The longer you stay in it, the harder is to get out of it. Funny enough yesterday I had the longest session of actual playing since I started eve. Lately I would just join for half an hour do some misisons and then do something else. I played a few hours straight yesterday! |
Raffael Ramirez
Alcohol Fuelled The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2015.09.24 10:17:03 -
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I really wish more people would have this moment before giving up or going somewhere else.
For me this is the true beauty of EvE and I am confident, that if players dissatisfied with their own routine would jump into the cold water and try something new, this game would be breaking records non stop.
Guess its hard to find a tree when you are in a forest.
Good luck on your adventures! Maybe think about sharing them to inspire other people.
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Johnny Riko
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.09.24 11:30:29 -
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You can lock the ship that is pointing/webbing you by holding control and clicking the little notification that appears above your capacitor when you are scrammed/webbed.
I wanna join up. I think I got what it takes to be a Citizen.
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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
801
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Posted - 2015.09.24 11:33:03 -
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shadowhearth Eto wrote: Even if my character is a bit old I am still really noobish player.
I've been playing this game since 2009, a few breaks here and there but much more on than off. I still very much feel like a noob in this game in many ways. So with Eve I think you just kind of have to learn to play the game and enjoy it and not so much worry about noob status.
As for recomendations it sounds to me like you need to spend some time learning your overview. Play around with and read up a bit. You should know how to works and what settings are available to you and what they do. Overview is everything in this game and it sounds like that is why you could not find the scramming frigs because you did not have your overview set up to show it. |
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2015.09.24 14:07:18 -
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shadowhearth Eto wrote:And cheers for good word lads, I was expecting a lot more slagging, but I guess not too many Irish lads here. :D No one is going to slag you off for realising that there is more to Eve than missions and then venturing into the barren wastelands of the unknown.
If you enjoy exploration you should look into wormholes, spelunking is quite fun if you catch the occupants asleep or with only a couple online. The gas sites are good money even with a Venture or Prospect (cloaky is good) and the WH sites in a C1 or C2 are soloable in a cheap BC, it's been a while since I did WH's but I believe there's now relic sites in them too.
There's a couple of Irish players that I know of, one of them often posts in this subforum; he'll probably be along later.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Cara Forelli
Green Skull LLC Bad Intention
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Posted - 2015.09.24 14:22:37 -
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The best moments in EVE happen just outside of your comfort zone.
One tip for you - if you can't find the ship scramming you in the overview you can press control + click on the scrambling effect icon above your HUD. It will lock that ship for you so you don't have to search through the overview. Very useful in PVP as well as PVE.
Edit: Next time I'll actually read the thread and see that someone already gave you that advice!
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Shiloh Templeton
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.09.24 14:34:05 -
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Great story!
In missions I make the overview a lot wider so I can see where the ewar is coming from. |
shadowhearth Eto
XYRESIC.
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Posted - 2015.09.24 23:35:01 -
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If anyone interested, I managed to play a bit more tonight after work. Not much play time for next few days due to work, but happy to say I spent my free time with eve tonight. Wont see Misses till Monday anyway.
So day two:
Went to my normal route I used last night. Started scanning first system and had company. Sow Another set of probes and then found Cheetah on Dscan. With new experience I realised its another explorer and not really big combat threat. So kept scanning and got a relic site with 6mil. Already a smile on my face. Dropped off loot and went back in. Unfortunately cheetah fella was scanning all this region so feck all sites left. I got good signal on Wormhole... So Jim Jefferies teached me one thing: "In for a penny, go for a Pound." :) Scanned down WH and went inside. My first time ever in one, gigidi. No ships on Dscan and 4 posses. Gut says to feck off, but feck it. What can be the worse that can happen hehe. Started scanning and always checking Dscan, looks like locals were a sleep. Scanned down a few sites and managed to get another 20mil loot! Legged it back home with a big grin on my face. Docked home and stashed up loot.
Another day and another fun night. Another "first one" done today too. Looking at this 42mil loot after 2 days ( just few hours in total ) and just smile. To make it even better it all was done with this little crappy frig worth less then 2mill in total. Havent had such satisfaction in eve ever. I know its pennies for most people, but it felt like I actually earned it. :)
Got an invite from fella for low sec PVP ( one of the lads from here ) that I will use for sure! Irish lads gave an offer to join their WH Corp too. So things shaping up really good for me. Really happy.
My exploration going really great and I got a lot better at scanning down sites. My skills are still crap so I will try to get some advice from you on my next steps.
I got now level 4 in Frigg skill so Scanning became way easier. Scanning skills are all at 3 and main one at 4. Cloacking at 4. So I plan on training Covert ops first, or at least Frigg 5. Is that good idea, or I better bump scanning skills to 4 first? I dont have much issues with scanning down stuff, but hacking is still an issue. In WH a lot off containers exploded to my face. Do I get Hacking and Archeology to 4 first? Will it help me much or do I just focus on Covert ops? |
Raffael Ramirez
Alcohol Fuelled The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2015.09.24 23:39:05 -
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shadowhearth Eto wrote: If anyone interested, I managed to play a bit more tonight after work. Not much play time for next few days due to work, but happy to say I spent my free time with eve tonight. Wont see Misses till Monday anyway.
So day two:
Went to my normal route I used last night. Started scanning first system and had company. Sow Another set of probes and then found Cheetah on Dscan. With new experience I realised its another explorer and not really big combat threat. So kept scanning and got a relic site with 6mil. Already a smile on my face. Dropped off loot and went back in. Unfortunately cheetah fella was scanning all this region so feck all sites left. I got good signal on Wormhole... So Jim Jefferies teached me one thing: "In for a penny, go for a Pound." :) Scanned down WH and went inside. My first time ever in one, gigidi. No ships on Dscan and 4 posses. Gut says to feck off, but feck it. What can be the worse that can happen hehe. Started scanning and always checking Dscan, looks like locals were a sleep. Scanned down a few sites and managed to get another 20mil loot! Legged it back home with a big grin on my face. Docked home and stashed up loot.
Another day and another fun night. Another "first one" done today too. Looking at this 42mil loot after 2 days ( just few hours in total ) and just smile. To make it even better it all was done with this little crappy frig worth less then 2mill in total. Havent had such satisfaction in eve ever. I know its pennies for most people, but it felt like I actually earned it. :)
Got an invite from fella for low sec PVP ( one of the lads from here ) that I will use for sure! Irish lads gave an offer to join their WH Corp too. So things shaping up really good for me. Really happy.
My exploration going really great and I got a lot better at scanning down sites. My skills are still crap so I will try to get some advice from you on my next steps.
I got now level 4 in Frigg skill so Scanning became way easier. Scanning skills are all at 3 and main one at 4. Cloacking at 4. So I plan on training Covert ops first, or at least Frigg 5. Is that good idea, or I better bump scanning skills to 4 first? I dont have much issues with scanning down stuff, but hacking is still an issue. In WH a lot off containers exploded to my face. Do I get Hacking and Archeology to 4 first? Will it help me much or do I just focus on Covert ops?
The good news is , you are doing it right.
The bad news is that your hooked for another 10+years .
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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
802
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Posted - 2015.09.25 01:18:26 -
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Raffael Ramirez wrote: Guess its hard to find a tree when you are in a forest.
Am I the only one that read this line and thought that it was beautifully brilliant and insightful? |
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
802
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Posted - 2015.09.25 01:35:01 -
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shadowhearth Eto wrote: I got now level 4 in Frigg skill so Scanning became way easier. Scanning skills are all at 3 and main one at 4. Cloacking at 4. So I plan on training Covert ops first, or at least Frigg 5. Is that good idea, or I better bump scanning skills to 4 first? I dont have much issues with scanning down stuff, but hacking is still an issue. In WH a lot off containers exploded to my face. Do I get Hacking and Archeology to 4 first? Will it help me much or do I just focus on Covert ops?
I haven't done exploration in recent year but here's my two cents for what it's worth. If your scanning skills are poor it usually just takes you longer or getting more / better stuff and keep trying until you get it. If your hacking skills are poor then your loot goes bye bye. So to me hacking and archaeology are more important than scanning skills. Also keep in mind that the containers with better loot tend to be more difficult to hack so with poor skills you are cutting yourself out of the better loot.
Yes it's true that the better sites are also harder to scan but like I already stated you can always go get faction probes or rigs or implants and try again until you get it. Of course the faster you can scan sites down the more you can do so that figures in. I guess it's all just preference.
Also don't forget about: modules, rigs, implants and faction ammo that can help with both scanning and hacking. The sister's launchers are probably too expensive to take into wormholes but the sister's probes are cheapish. The rigs and mods are affordable iirc. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Black Hydra Consortium.
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Posted - 2015.09.25 05:30:13 -
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Now if you want to help other people come to the same realisation you did, I strongly encourage you to go suicide gank someone.
I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Sabriz's Rule: "Any time someone argues for a game change claiming it is a quality of life change, the change is actually a game balance change".
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Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
545
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Posted - 2015.09.25 14:31:05 -
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Enjoy your new life in low sec.
A small tip, if you ever decide to go back to those missions because of a momentary brain lapse due to the nostalgia flu bug fit a better tank that way being webbed and scammed simply does not matter you just tank your way through it. |
Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1550
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Posted - 2015.09.25 17:11:10 -
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Remi Renaud wrote:Extra tip: You can also ctrl+click the scrambled/webbed icon on your hud to automatically target the offending ship.
I hope you have better luck in low and null sec. It's always great news when people move in.
around 2 years and i didnt know this, awesome tip!
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shadowhearth Eto
XYRESIC.
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Posted - 2015.09.25 20:39:37 -
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ergherhdfgh wrote:shadowhearth Eto wrote: I got now level 4 in Frigg skill so Scanning became way easier. Scanning skills are all at 3 and main one at 4. Cloacking at 4. So I plan on training Covert ops first, or at least Frigg 5. Is that good idea, or I better bump scanning skills to 4 first? I dont have much issues with scanning down stuff, but hacking is still an issue. In WH a lot off containers exploded to my face. Do I get Hacking and Archeology to 4 first? Will it help me much or do I just focus on Covert ops?
I haven't done exploration in recent year but here's my two cents for what it's worth. If your scanning skills are poor it usually just takes you longer or getting more / better stuff and keep trying until you get it. If your hacking skills are poor then your loot goes bye bye. So to me hacking and archaeology are more important than scanning skills. Also keep in mind that the containers with better loot tend to be more difficult to hack so with poor skills you are cutting yourself out of the better loot. Yes it's true that the better sites are also harder to scan but like I already stated you can always go get faction probes or rigs or implants and try again until you get it. Of course the faster you can scan sites down the more you can do so that figures in. I guess it's all just preference. Also don't forget about: modules, rigs, implants and faction ammo that can help with both scanning and hacking. The sister's launchers are probably too expensive to take into wormholes but the sister's probes are cheapish. The rigs and mods are affordable iirc.
That is actually a very good point. Since I got friggs 4 it became a lot easier to scan sites, plus my skills of actual scanning got better too. Wheres hacking is my weak point and I blew up so many containers. Ill finish my friggs 5 as I already started and do my hacking skills to 4.
I only got back from work now, so ill try to do some more scanning. I doubt anyting is left at this hour, but who knows, I might get lucky.
Edit UPDATE:
Went for exploration and it did not looked good. Sites scanned down in area, so I jumped to WH. I think I got in to some high level one as it had rats in site. Needless to say i ran away. :) I went deeper in space and found few sites. Got 20mil in total and was very happy!
I did learned a few things again.
1. Check WH before with mighty google to find out its level. 1-3 good 4-6 stay away. 2. Hacking game... I realised that there are more power ups.. I ignored them as I though those were nothing or something bad ( I know, I am that noobish hehe ) . On top of that I properly learned the number meaning and it made it way easier to hack. So less containers blew in my face.
I came across sleeper relic or data site in low sec. I could not get it scanned more then 76%. Looks like my frigg and skills hit a sealing. Really tempted to upgrade and get better ship, but at the same time I want to see how much I can earn in this little cracker before it gets blown up. :) Its a shame Magnate got only 3 med slots, so I can put any upgrades. :( |
u3pog
Ministerstvo na otbranata
714
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Posted - 2015.09.26 10:26:20 -
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I did missions for years, then I decided to go into PvP and other areas of space, where all people say it's fun. I tried NPC null, C2 and C5 Wormholes, some pvp in low sec and eventually began trading about an year and a half ago and guess what? Of all the activities I got hooked to trading and market manipulations...Who could have guessed?
My point is, everyone has a different interests in this game, it's good that you found yours! Who knows, you might find something even more interesting in the future. |
shadowhearth Eto
XYRESIC.
47
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Posted - 2015.09.26 13:56:19 -
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u3pog wrote:I did missions for years, then I decided to go into PvP and other areas of space, where all people say it's fun. I tried NPC null, C2 and C5 Wormholes, some pvp in low sec and eventually began trading about an year and a half ago and guess what? Of all the activities I got hooked to trading and market manipulations...Who could have guessed?
My point is, everyone has a different interests in this game, it's good that you found yours! Who knows, you might find something even more interesting in the future.
Good point. Everyone has their own ticks. Main thing is to try something new and get out of comfort zone. Who knows what will stick.
I really really love my exploration career now. Even my mindset is different when I log in. When i was stoll missionary I would force myself to log in and just checking how much time I got and how many missions I can do. All that I was checking was my account balance. Like a job. Now I log in and just play as long as I can without even checking time. Every data site I find is like xmas morming. I just excited what's under the tree and at the same time I am checking my back if santa is standing behind me with a big lumber jack axe sexual locking his lips. It is really satisfying for me to return from dangerous environment back home with loot worth 10 times more then a bucket I fly in.
I am still learning the ropes and my next step will be do a lot more wh exploration and get in to null sec. Then I really want to start combat exploration. I am not comfortable flying something like ststratios, yet :) |
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
808
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Posted - 2015.09.27 01:33:34 -
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shadowhearth Eto wrote: That is actually a very good point. Since I got friggs 4 it became a lot easier to scan sites, plus my skills of actual scanning got better too. Wheres hacking is my weak point and I blew up so many containers. Ill finish my friggs 5 as I already started and do my hacking skills to 4.
Frig 5 gets you access to the tech 2 scanning ship which is more expensive but can use a cov ops cloak which is very helpful and has twice the hacking bonus and it's a role bonus so you get it at the level 1 of the tech 2 skill. So not a bad choice. I still say spend more time learning how to become better at the hacking mini game as a whole to make the T2 ship worth the extra isk.
shadowhearth Eto wrote: I came across sleeper relic or data site in low sec. I could not get it scanned more then 76%. Looks like my frigg and skills hit a sealing. Really tempted to upgrade and get better ship, but at the same time I want to see how much I can earn in this little cracker before it gets blown up. :) Its a shame Magnate got only 3 med slots, so I can put any upgrades. :(
The sister's probes are not that much isk and make sure you are using core probes. The combat probes are great for when you want to scan down another player but they gimp you for sites.
Also seriously look into the implants and rigs as well as the modules. The gravity capcitor and scope sharpener rigs are typically cheap enough to switch them out on the fly and the low level scanning hardwiring implant I think is cheap also. (might be called AR-802 iirc)
with a mobile depot you could change out mods on the fly. Then you could spare all the mids for scanning upgrades if you wanted. However I've not ever used the mobile depot so I can't tell you much about them. |
shadowhearth Eto
XYRESIC.
47
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Posted - 2015.09.27 05:43:16 -
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ergherhdfgh wrote:shadowhearth Eto wrote: That is actually a very good point. Since I got friggs 4 it became a lot easier to scan sites, plus my skills of actual scanning got better too. Wheres hacking is my weak point and I blew up so many containers. Ill finish my friggs 5 as I already started and do my hacking skills to 4.
Frig 5 gets you access to the tech 2 scanning ship which is more expensive but can use a cov ops cloak which is very helpful and has twice the hacking bonus and it's a role bonus so you get it at the level 1 of the tech 2 skill. So not a bad choice. I still say spend more time learning how to become better at the hacking mini game as a whole to make the T2 ship worth the extra isk. shadowhearth Eto wrote: I came across sleeper relic or data site in low sec. I could not get it scanned more then 76%. Looks like my frigg and skills hit a sealing. Really tempted to upgrade and get better ship, but at the same time I want to see how much I can earn in this little cracker before it gets blown up. :) Its a shame Magnate got only 3 med slots, so I can put any upgrades. :(
The sister's probes are not that much isk and make sure you are using core probes. The combat probes are great for when you want to scan down another player but they gimp you for sites. Also seriously look into the implants and rigs as well as the modules. The gravity capcitor and scope sharpener rigs are typically cheap enough to switch them out on the fly and the low level scanning hardwiring implant I think is cheap also. (might be called AR-802 iirc) with a mobile depot you could change out mods on the fly. Then you could spare all the mids for scanning upgrades if you wanted. However I've not ever used the mobile depot so I can't tell you much about them.
Cheers.
I am working on friggs 5 right now, but after that I will need electronics upgrades 5 for covert oos, which is another 9 days. After frigg 5 I will get hacking to 4 as it will be 5 days in total. Problem is, I might have done a bad decision on my covert oos frig choice. I went for Magnate version, but I needed to go for caldarium buzzard. Amarr one has 3 high slots, which is useless and only 4 meds.
My hacking skill as a player became way better, I blew up way less containers and managed to bring 30mil home last night after work. I learned to use numbers and all power ups. Still will need increase those hacking skills. |
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
809
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Posted - 2015.09.27 12:32:18 -
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It's never too late to start training a different frig 5. You can stop in the middle of the one you are on now and train another. 6 month from now you'll probably have all four frig 5's trained so you'll use those skill points that you have partially into amarr frig 5 eventually. It also won't hurt to keep going the way you are going now.
My point is don't stress out about your skill points. As you have indicated already you've increased your hacking success by improving your personal skill. You seem to have learned that the bigger and / or more expensive ships are often not better. You also seem to have learned that improving your player skill is far more effective than your skill points. The only thing separating your from being an excellent internet space ship pilot is a little time. You have the right attitude imho and I think you'll do fine. |
shadowhearth Eto
XYRESIC.
47
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Posted - 2015.09.27 23:11:34 -
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ergherhdfgh wrote:It's never too late to start training a different frig 5. You can stop in the middle of the one you are on now and train another. 6 month from now you'll probably have all four frig 5's trained so you'll use those skill points that you have partially into amarr frig 5 eventually. It also won't hurt to keep going the way you are going now.
My point is don't stress out about your skill points. As you have indicated already you've increased your hacking success by improving your personal skill. You seem to have learned that the bigger and / or more expensive ships are often not better. You also seem to have learned that improving your player skill is far more effective than your skill points. The only thing separating your from being an excellent internet space ship pilot is a little time. You have the right attitude imho and I think you'll do fine.
Hehe, I know I can switch and I know I can train other skill half way in. Its just my OCd thing, if I start skill, I need to finish it. :) My actual game skills got so much better in last 4 days, then ever. At least I had a decent theory knowladge, before I started my new career.
I dont know if anyone interested anymore and I know this thread became my little blog, but fudge it, might as well. :)
So today after work I decided to play a bit more. I went on my usual low sec route and it was completely scanned out and was very hot with locals. Usually they are dozy and peaceful, but I clearly sow something was going on. I came back to my base and started looking at map, find another area of low sec I could poke around. Then I had "briliant" idea... Drop sisters probes, put normal ones and go to null sec for the first time. If I die - meh, its 2mil and I already earned that back. Checked area on the map with least death, set waypoints and off I went. Oh boy, talking about wild west. System population going from 2 to 10 in few seconds just because I flew in, then they realise its Magnate and they all feck off lol. So after cloack trick warping and throwing some safe spots I got in to system with 1 fella in and 5 sites. Started scanning. Well... I really started shitting my pants at the point where I was holding 52mil of crap in my hull from 2 sites. HOW DO I GET BACK HOME NOW?! Long story short: I did cloack trip up until the last system and there I got cough in Drag warp bubble. 100km from exit!!! D-scan, nothing! Microwarpdrive and gogogo to gate! One jump and I am in low sec. I cant believe I am now happy to see Low sec lol.
So I am back in home system with 148mil of loot. New experience in null sec. Was scary, but fun hehe. I want Covert ops ship even more now. I would feel so much safer in it. :) |
Selaria Unbertable
POS Mortem Renegades Of Silence
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Posted - 2015.09.28 12:34:02 -
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shadowhearth Eto wrote:ergherhdfgh wrote:It's never too late to start training a different frig 5. You can stop in the middle of the one you are on now and train another. 6 month from now you'll probably have all four frig 5's trained so you'll use those skill points that you have partially into amarr frig 5 eventually. It also won't hurt to keep going the way you are going now.
My point is don't stress out about your skill points. As you have indicated already you've increased your hacking success by improving your personal skill. You seem to have learned that the bigger and / or more expensive ships are often not better. You also seem to have learned that improving your player skill is far more effective than your skill points. The only thing separating your from being an excellent internet space ship pilot is a little time. You have the right attitude imho and I think you'll do fine. Hehe, I know I can switch and I know I can train other skill half way in. Its just my OCd thing, if I start skill, I need to finish it. :) My actual game skills got so much better in last 4 days, then ever. At least I had a decent theory knowladge, before I started my new career. I dont know if anyone interested anymore and I know this thread became my little blog, but fudge it, might as well. :) So today after work I decided to play a bit more. I went on my usual low sec route and it was completely scanned out and was very hot with locals. Usually they are dozy and peaceful, but I clearly sow something was going on. I came back to my base and started looking at map, find another area of low sec I could poke around. Then I had "briliant" idea... Drop sisters probes, put normal ones and go to null sec for the first time. If I die - meh, its 2mil and I already earned that back. Checked area on the map with least death, set waypoints and off I went. Oh boy, talking about wild west. System population going from 2 to 10 in few seconds just because I flew in, then they realise its Magnate and they all feck off lol. So after cloack trick warping and throwing some safe spots I got in to system with 1 fella in and 5 sites. Started scanning. Well... I really started shitting my pants at the point where I was holding 52mil of crap in my hull from 2 sites. HOW DO I GET BACK HOME NOW?! Long story short: I did cloack trip up until the last system and there I got cough in Drag warp bubble. 100km from exit!!! D-scan, nothing! Microwarpdrive and gogogo to gate! One jump and I am in low sec. I cant believe I am now happy to see Low sec lol. So I am back in home system with 148mil of loot. New experience in null sec. Was scary, but fun hehe. I want Covert ops ship even more now. I would feel so much safer in it. :)
Indeed, a covert ops cloak makes exploration and traveling a lot easier. Fitting a few warp core stabilizers is also a good idea, that might save your butt if someone manages to find you in an exploration site and points/scrams you. If you wanna stick to low sec exploration, I'd recommend sansha space at the moment. Intact Armor Plates are worth several million isk, I've had single relic sites netting 20-30M. Using http://evemaps.dotlan.net/ to check current activity is also quite helpful, and the site also more accessible than the ingame map imho.
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shadowhearth Eto
XYRESIC.
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Posted - 2015.09.30 14:23:08 -
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So I couldnt play EVE last two days as I a had some Drama crap on Monday and then spent Tuesday with OH. I got back home today and played a bit.
Today was a good day so far. Got lucky with 2 relic sites and brought back home 60mil loot in total. I cant believe it took me so long to get out from high sec. At the same time I dont understand why people say to nerf High sec. Money is crap there! Low sec FTW! 220mil earned in few days by playing a few hours in total. It would take me ages to make that in level 4s and god Forbid mining.
So as I am getting better at all this, I got a few more questions and need some advice.
1. I am still in Magnate. Its lovely little thing and I love it a lot, but I am getting at the point where I feel a bit "dickish". I had Heron pop in in to my site, while I was scanning. I knew he was in system and I knew he is coming over. So its not like I was cought with pants down. He ran away after seeing me, so I could finish my business there. Obviously I kept an eye out on everything in case he scanned me down and pin pointed me to his friends, who have bigger claws and fangs. So I wonder if I could fix this by using Astero for my low sec exploration? I know it has feck all fire power, but it would be enough to scare off some Herons and covert ops competition. I would not look for fights, more of a "if you do stay around, I will scratch your face". If I see something nasty coming over or another Astero, I would most likely just run. My home is pretty nice and locals not dicks, but I wonder if they will see Astero, they will have more interest in my lovely bum cheeks? Usually when people see t1 exploration frig, they just dont bother. 2. It will have to do with Astero again. I know it can do some combat sites, but can it manage to do any of low sec ones? Or is it better to use Stratios for stuff like this. Even then, what combat sites I could do with stratios? 3. Gas sites. I presume it has to do with Mining Gas. Ventures time to shine? Is it profitable and does it worth time and risk? 4. Moving my loot. I got 220mil of crap to move to jita. What would be the safest way of doing it? I presume that I am asking for trouble to move all that in magnate? Maybe doing some of the MWD+Cloack trick in busy systems like Jita and Perimeter would work? I used to use Navy Harbinger for that, but its waaay too far away at the moment.
Cheers again for all help. |
Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.09.30 14:51:20 -
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tldr but im about to lose 2 bill if that makes u feel better. |
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