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Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.05 14:16:56 -
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firstly i apologise if this is in the wrong subforum.
i was gonna quit but now im tempted to sub an additional account and train them up to be my links.
im a cheater u say?
well maybe but afaik thers no honor in space.
anyway questions.
Roughly how long will it take to train a fresh toon into a perfect siege + skirmish loki links toon.
Another question how the hell do you multibox?
i dont want to buy a program or whatever just want to run two clients off the same machine.
thanks in advance. |
Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1597
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Posted - 2015.10.05 14:21:10 -
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multibox by running multiple accounts at the same time, i multibox 2 chars and have 2 screens, 1 on each screen, now with the new shared folder you simply just use the launcher to login into a 2nd account, no third party applications required
Drinking rum before 10am makes you a pirate, not an alcoholic
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Switch Savage
The Tuskers The Tuskers Co.
195
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Posted - 2015.10.05 14:22:05 -
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Bastion Arzi wrote:firstly i apologise if this is in the wrong subforum.
i was gonna quit but now im tempted to sub an additional account and train them up to be my links.
im a cheater u say?
well maybe but afaik thers no honor in space.
anyway questions.
Roughly how long will it take to train a fresh toon into a perfect siege + skirmish loki links toon.
Another question how the hell do you multibox?
i dont want to buy a program or whatever just want to run two clients off the same machine.
thanks in advance.
Long enough that you would be better off just buying one if you value your time.
If I'm taking something shiny enough to warrant links i'll throw my links on my 2nd screen. I put the overview and scan window on the left hand side so I can notice someone landing on grid with peripheral vision whilst fighting on my main screen.
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Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
233
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Posted - 2015.10.05 14:25:09 -
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so i just run eve. log in
then alt tab
run eve and log in? |
Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1597
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Posted - 2015.10.05 14:26:57 -
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well you need to click switch accounts but yeah thats the way i do it
Drinking rum before 10am makes you a pirate, not an alcoholic
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Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
233
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Posted - 2015.10.05 14:28:40 -
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nice ty |
ChromeStriker
Out of Focus Odin's Call
951
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Posted - 2015.10.05 14:43:06 -
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PvP saving wavering souls again!
No Worries
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Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
233
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Posted - 2015.10.05 14:45:00 -
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amen. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2015.10.05 14:53:20 -
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Competent t3 booster takes about 6 months all told, that's with solid scanning skills the option for shipping up into a command ship if you're fairly static.
Massive utility out of a cloaking booster scanning t3 on a separate account, genuinely useful thing to have.
Better the Devil you know.
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Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
233
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Posted - 2015.10.05 15:29:09 -
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Ye I think I'll cerebral accelerator it |
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Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
233
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Posted - 2015.10.05 15:48:52 -
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hey wth eve central says there no cerebral accelerators on the market.
did those get removed? |
W0lf Crendraven
Welfcorp
356
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Posted - 2015.10.05 16:14:19 -
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Also worth noting that cybernetics is the most usefull skill as mindlinks are incredebly usefull.
And youll soon see that even t1 links and a t1 bc are fairly awesome, its a fun way to see skills really blossom. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
12284
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Posted - 2015.10.05 16:30:58 -
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W0lf Crendraven wrote:Also worth noting that cybernetics is the most usefull skill as mindlinks are incredebly usefull.
And youll soon see that even t1 links and a t1 bc are fairly awesome, its a fun way to see skills really blossom. Actually this as a fairly good point, t1 links on a t1 Battlecruiser will still have the same effect as dumping an outrageous amount of isk into your fits, just not as good as t2.
Still very much useful though.
Better the Devil you know.
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RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
1127
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Posted - 2015.10.05 16:50:29 -
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You could train a good alt for ever. ship skills leadership skills scanning/probing skills logistics skills cyno cloak/de-cloak etc etc
Just be sure to train him opposite of your main, and he can offer a whole different side of EVE for you. You can probably go 2 or 3 years before you have to start overlapping skill sets. |
Shiloh Templeton
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
416
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Posted - 2015.10.05 17:27:18 -
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Bastion Arzi wrote:hey wth eve central says there no cerebral accelerators on the market.
did those get removed? Check contracts
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Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.05 17:59:22 -
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Shiloh Templeton wrote:Check contracts
ty |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2015.10.05 21:27:31 -
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make friends with someone with links in the meantime :p
@ChainsawPlankto
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Amanda Chan
Tyrant's Short Bus Syndicate
51
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Posted - 2015.10.05 22:10:15 -
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Bastion Arzi wrote:firstly i apologise if this is in the wrong subforum. i was gonna quit but now im tempted to sub an additional account and train them up to be my links. im a cheater u say? (It's not cheating, just don't call it "solo" pvp ) well maybe but afaik thers no honor in space. (You can win more or have a clean conscience. The latter isn't all that appealing for most) anyway questions. Roughly how long will it take to train a fresh toon into a perfect siege + skirmish loki links toon. (I'd suggest looking into purchasing a character off the Bazaar instead of training one ground up) Another question how the hell do you multibox? (I actually use https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5264866 which is free. I don't have space on my desk for additional monitors, use a 52 inch TV as my monitor ) i dont want to buy a program or whatever just want to run two clients off the same machine. thanks in advance. |
Daniela Doran
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
122
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Posted - 2015.10.06 10:08:43 -
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If you want to use T1 links, you're looking at about 5 months. If you want use T2 links on a T3, you're looking at 8 months. If you use cerebral accelerators, +5 implants with proper remaps, you're looking at 7 months. It mat be best to train for T1 BCs then CSs for this cause I don't believe OGB won't be around within the next year.
If you have at least a 2.2ghz i7 Quad core with 8 GB Ram and a 2 GB NVidia Geforce GTX 560 you'll have enough horsepower to split screen eve on the same computer. Go to graphics & display panel and select Window Mode to split screen on the same computer. The better option is to get yourself 3 or 4 ASUS G74SX-NH71 and have the capability of multiboxing 6 clients at once. Last I check they only cost around $500.00 usd on ebay. |
elitatwo
Eve Minions The-Company
870
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Posted - 2015.10.06 11:10:59 -
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Bastion, don't leave yet.
And what Ralph said. It takes 6 months-ish to train from zero to full. But you have to carefully plan your remaps to not waste any since one of them needs to be a full charisma remap.
Use the +5 implants as soon as you can, leave some at minimum which can also remove some time of your que.
Tired of low and nullsec? Join Eve Minions and experience the beauty of wormholes!
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Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
501
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Posted - 2015.10.06 12:57:10 -
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I am training my alt to use a Orca effectively (t2 mining and shield links) which takes aprox. 45 days. (Not counting Orca traintime) |
Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
233
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Posted - 2015.10.06 13:39:28 -
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Many thanks for ur replies and advice. I'm gonna buy my second acc today I think.
Can u link two separate accounts to the same email?
Also I have a lot of fiddling with evemon to get the skill queue and remaps correct.
Definitely getting a cerebral accelerator and cybernetics five first. Then go from there.
vov |
Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.06 13:50:30 -
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Also I too reckon links will be rebalanced at some point so I'll prolly go for command ships instead.
But which to go for first? Atm I'm aiming to use it on a shield marauder |
Shiloh Templeton
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.10.06 14:20:34 -
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Yes, you can have the same email address for multiple accounts.
The accelerator will continue to train the current skill at the accelerated rate when it expires as long as you make NO CHANGES to the skill queue.
I think it's quicker to get into a T3 OGB quicker than a CS remembering you don't have to train all the subsystem skills to V. Plus it's easier to move around with covert ops and nullify, and to hide when it's in system.
You'll have plenty of time to think about ships during you're long leadership training.
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Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
233
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Posted - 2015.10.06 15:18:15 -
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maybe true but what of the whispers of nerfs on the horizon?
also how much is 350k sp? in days/weeks/months of training?
cos ccp are giving new charcters 350k more sp in the vanguard update. should i wait till then?
also is there anyway for me to make like a buddy code or something? |
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
1127
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Posted - 2015.10.06 16:31:21 -
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350k SP is roughly 10 days for a new character, and maybe 7 days for an older character with +5 implants. Give or take, I didn't do any hard math. |
Daniela Doran
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
122
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Posted - 2015.10.07 03:29:56 -
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Bastion Arzi wrote:Many thanks for ur replies and advice. I'm gonna buy my second acc today I think.
Can u link two separate accounts to the same email?
Also I have a lot of fiddling with evemon to get the skill queue and remaps correct.
Definitely getting a cerebral accelerator and cybernetics five first. Then go from there.
vov
You can buddy invite a second account with the same email address and get 21 days free.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
1861
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Posted - 2015.10.07 05:40:38 -
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last I looked trials were 30 days any way you make them. that said the buddy code gets you an extra month so might as well use it.
and the extra 350k sp is nice and all but most if it wont really help a links alt.
I think I'd go for tengu links, they seem to have a bit more flexibility in fitting over the link loki. not sure if legion or prot is better on the armor side. Command ships are nice as they can easily fit more links, but lose out on things like cov ops cloak and interdiction nullification.
@ChainsawPlankto
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
12321
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Posted - 2015.10.07 05:44:14 -
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proteus is a better armour booster, warps quicker and its easier to get more links active with the extra mids.
that said i use a legion so...
Better the Devil you know.
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Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
234
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Posted - 2015.10.07 08:57:17 -
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got my alt, cerebral boosted it and fit +3's, it will take almost 11 days to get cybernetics V.
after that i should be able to get to minmatar battlecruiser 4 or almost 4 within the remaining time of my accelerator.
eve mon used nerual remaps planned. cant rememebr the exact numebr of days it was till command ship. like 145 or something but then ill need fitting skills, cap skills etc
question tho
it says i have 2 bonus neural remaps it also says neural remap available now
do i have 3 nueral remaps then? |
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Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1606
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Posted - 2015.10.07 09:01:27 -
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Daniela Doran wrote: And for PVE the Vargur is king of Marauders.
Fixed that for ya bud
Drinking rum before 10am makes you a pirate, not an alcoholic
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Anize Oramara
The Arch Dashing Dashers
441
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Posted - 2015.10.07 10:10:38 -
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Bastion Arzi wrote:got my alt, cerebral boosted it and fit +3's, it will take almost 11 days to get cybernetics V & mini frig 3
after that i should be able to get to minmatar battlecruiser 4 or almost 4 within the remaining time of my accelerator.
eve mon used nerual remaps planned. cant rememebr the exact numebr of days it was till command ship. like 145 or something but then ill need fitting skills, cap skills etc
question tho
it says i have 2 bonus neural remaps it also says neural remap available now
do i have 3 nueral remaps then? You only have 2 available.
My 2c would be to go for the Tengu. It is a much, much more flexible ship than command ships in case you ever want to do something on that alt that isn't boosting or just add more utility to your boosting ship (scanning for example). The leadership skills are the same regardless. Going for a T1 BC so you have something until cruiser 5 is done is valid but you can switch over to a tengu immediately wile Command ships requires a LOT of leadership skills to be finished before you can fly it. T3s also get a bonus to 3 links (at 2% each) over the CS's 2 links that are 3% each.
That said my alt is trained for CS but that was because that was superior to going for T3s in WH space at the time. Also astarte dps yo. |
Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
234
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Posted - 2015.10.07 10:22:31 -
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i thought comand ships can run 3 links simaltaneously with 3% bonus per level?
also here is my first attempt at a bc links links fit
try not to laugh
[Cyclone, Unnamed loadout] Damage Control II 1600mm Steel Plates II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 800mm Steel Plates II
Command Processor I Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Siege Warfare Link - Shield Harmonizing I Skirmish Warfare Link - Interdiction Maneuvers I [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot]
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
advice appreciated
edit also i will get loki links on this alt too. just to cover all bases |
Anize Oramara
The Arch Dashing Dashers
441
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Posted - 2015.10.07 11:07:07 -
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Sorry I meant bonuses to TYPE of links, like Skirmish/Armor. Compare the T3 bonuses with the CS bonuses in EFT to see what I mean. |
Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
234
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Posted - 2015.10.07 11:36:52 -
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looking at the stats - tier 1 links are ****
and cs links give slighlty more stats than tech 3 |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
12325
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Posted - 2015.10.07 12:44:34 -
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Bastion Arzi wrote:looking at the stats - tier 1 links are ****
and cs links give slighlty more stats than tech 3 Yes but you can put a cloak interdiction nullification and an expanded probe launcher along side the boosts on a t3 , that's one hell of a useful package , particularly for hunting things.
Yeah the command ships give better boosts but that's all they do and they're painfuly slow
Your t3 can roam ,scout,scan and get you a warp in before you're even in system.
Better the Devil you know.
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Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
234
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Posted - 2015.10.07 12:49:51 -
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hmm all goint points thanks ralph.
ill switch to loki links for now.
also ralph maybe when my alt can fly a t3 DWA would reconsider my app?
maybe u dont remember me :( |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2015.10.07 13:58:37 -
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Bastion Arzi wrote:hmm all goint points thanks ralph.
ill switch to loki links for now.
also ralph maybe when my alt can fly a t3 DWA would reconsider my app?
maybe u dont remember me :( An alt in a covops capable scanning frigate (hint: astero has minimal prereqs) might be enough to tip it in your favour mate. I do actually, the lads mentioned the app, I'm not a recruiter or actually in lords anymore so I can't speak for them but the worst they can do is say no.
Better the Devil you know.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
1862
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Posted - 2015.10.07 14:22:40 -
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Anize Oramara wrote:Bastion Arzi wrote:question tho
it says i have 2 bonus neural remaps it also says neural remap available now
do i have 3 nueral remaps then? You only have 2 available. pretty sure that is 3 remaps, as if you remap and wait a year you can remap again and still have the 2 bonus remaps. the bonus remaps only get used if you use them inside a year.
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Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.07 14:24:57 -
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Chainsaw Plankton wrote:Anize Oramara wrote:Bastion Arzi wrote:question tho
it says i have 2 bonus neural remaps it also says neural remap available now
do i have 3 nueral remaps then? You only have 2 available. pretty sure that is 3 remaps, as if you remap and wait a year you can remap again and still have the 2 bonus remaps. the bonus remaps only get used if you use them inside a year.
excellent news! |
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Anize Oramara
The Arch Dashing Dashers
441
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Posted - 2015.10.07 14:27:26 -
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Chainsaw Plankton wrote:Anize Oramara wrote:Bastion Arzi wrote:question tho
it says i have 2 bonus neural remaps it also says neural remap available now
do i have 3 nueral remaps then? You only have 2 available. pretty sure that is 3 remaps, as if you remap and wait a year you can remap again and still have the 2 bonus remaps. the bonus remaps only get used if you use them inside a year. Oh, huh, good to know. To be fair it's been so long since I had bonus remaps I was probably misremembering how it worked |
Daniela Doran
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
122
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Posted - 2015.10.07 15:32:16 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Daniela Doran wrote: And for PVE the Vargur is king of Marauders. Fixed that for ya bud
Don't think so I'm afraid. Don't get me wrong, I like the Vargur and I'm in the process of training 2 of my alts to fly it. If you're running missions then maybe the Vargur due to capless weapons & selectable damage type, but in WH space it's got nothing on the Pally. |
Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
235
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Posted - 2015.10.07 17:30:23 -
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confirming u get 3 neural remaps in total if ur a fresh toon |
Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.10.08 10:18:44 -
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might even get strat cruiser to 1 at first. thats all i need right? its not like ill be overheating.
can't wait for my links! |
Valkin Mordirc
1526
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Posted - 2015.10.08 11:30:58 -
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If you are going to be in Low-sec T3 is the best idea, since they are cloaky. Go for either Legion or Tengu, They are the best for boosting. If you are Wedeccing T3's are also better as they are faster and can fit Scan probes. If you just plan on camping a certain system and never leaving it, the you might be able to get away with a CS but I would consider it risky.
There is a video out on youtube somewhere showing a proper fit and how to use them best.
#DeleteTheWeak
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Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
240
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Posted - 2015.10.08 11:51:16 -
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ye definitely going t3
gonna make a cloaky, scanning, boosting t3.
this in in hopes of busting low sec gatecamps and stuff with a golem. inspired by the bastionnades vid on utube.
will get cs after. |
Bastion Arzi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
245
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Posted - 2015.10.09 09:22:53 -
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is there a way to make evemon take into account ur cerebral accelerator?
at present i dont think its inlcuded in the calculations |
Bastion Arzi
Angry Mustellid Decayed Orbit
259
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Posted - 2015.10.17 10:25:27 -
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ok so i hear that CCP are talking about removing links or bringing them on grid in the future.
my links alt wont be ready till april (at least)
so im thinking if they do bring links on grid then i can just cross train into a cs. and also use my alt to deliver me stuff from hi sec
is it true that links are getting rebalanced/nerfed/removed/brought on grid?
if so could u pls kindly provide a link
ty in advance |
Demerius Xenocratus
Rapid Withdrawal
704
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Posted - 2015.10.17 14:34:18 -
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And just like that, another player discovers how to do elite pvp. |
Bastion Arzi
Angry Mustellid Decayed Orbit
259
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Posted - 2015.10.17 21:03:48 -
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other people are already doing it. im just leveling the playing field. |
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Demerius Xenocratus
Rapid Withdrawal
704
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Posted - 2015.10.18 08:45:24 -
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Bastion Arzi wrote:other people are already doing it. im just leveling the playing field.
Not criticizing you at all I just laugh at the fact that rolling a links alt is the most important component of small gang/solo success.
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Hulk Miner
White Horse Incorporated
36
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Posted - 2015.10.18 09:13:18 -
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Bastion Arzi wrote:
Another question how the hell do you multibox?
i dont want to buy a program or whatever just want to run two clients off the same machine.
thanks in advance.
1. Make a link to CCP exefile (If you don't want to use the launcher) 2. Click as many times as you need to open a fresh client.
No third party programs have ever been needed unless your up to dodgy stuff.
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