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Nai'gah	Posted - 2006.12.24 14:06:00 - [1] Hypothetical question... Would a flagship be a faction mothership? or higher tier carrier or dreadnought answerable to none except titains? Or would it be a t2 or higher tier battleship class battleship version of the commandship with micro jump portals and mini mothership capiblities? Would you like to see flagships in the game in either capasity and which would you personally prefer?
Karon Wodens LFC	Posted - 2006.12.24 14:14:00 - [2] Fleet commanders today prefer the most sophisticated ships over the largest. The ones' with most of the logistics equipment and such. So I'm guessing a command cruiser would do the trick for them. Caldari Prime: Think of that moment, remember what they did...
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.24 14:15:00 - [3] T2 Battleship. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Stakhanov Gallente Newbies On Xstacy	Posted - 2006.12.24 14:19:00 - [4] Command ships are supposed to be just that...
Sebroth Coordination Incorporated	Posted - 2006.12.24 14:21:00 - [5] t2 BS - racial BS lvl 5 - Logistics lvl 5 - some leadership skills @ lvl 5 ("racial" gang skill? + xx) great PASSIVE tank (no ******* active tank bonus that dont work in fleets ect) gangbonus close to what the titan gives or a new second "racial" gang bonus? no weapon hardpoints at all!! no dronebay or max 10m3 just my 2 ÷ren ----- Never knock on Death's door; ring the doorbell and run (he hates that)
ToxicFire Warlords Corp The Core Collective	Posted - 2006.12.24 14:29:00 - [6] mmmm mothership with carrier lvl 5 35 fighters.... purrrrrrrr Join the save Stargate SG1 Campaign Today! http://savestargatesg1.com/
CrayC Gallente CrayC Inc.	Posted - 2006.12.24 14:46:00 - [7] Originally by: ToxicFire mmmm mothership with carrier lvl 5 35 fighters.... purrrrrrrr You mean 25, right? 5 for Drone skill 5 for Advanced Drone Interfacing using 5 modules 15 for Carrier skill, with +3 per level...
Major Stormer Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.12.24 14:48:00 - [8] A big explosion.
Decadent Diva	Posted - 2006.12.24 14:50:00 - [9] flagship for a fc? covert ops
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.24 15:35:00 - [10] Flagships are already in the database. Check EVEMon. They're T2 BS's. A bit like giant Command Ships. -----------------------------------------------
F2C MaDMaXX Quantum Synergies	Posted - 2006.12.24 15:56:00 - [11] Actually they're just listed as Wing Command Carriers, they require wing command 5, space comm 5 and leadership 5. Doesn't appear to be ships belonging to the skill. ______________________________________ Natural Selection Developer Sound FX
Viktor Fyretracker Caldari Worms Corp	Posted - 2006.12.24 16:16:00 - [12] Edited by: Viktor Fyretracker on 24/12/2006 16:16:35 i dont think a Navy in EVE has a single flagship. i think they operate more like a modern navy IRL where the Supercarrier is the Command and Control center of a fleet. however id imagine All the Navies have one ship that is its Public Image flagship(ie the Aircraft Carrier USS Enterprise for the USN)
Ozzie Asrail FATAL REVELATIONS	Posted - 2006.12.24 16:46:00 - [13] A command ship style BS that can use seigemode -----
testteyst	Posted - 2006.12.24 16:55:00 - [14] I still think there are 2 ship types missing desperatly needed - 1. Corvettes - between Cruiser and Battleship - NOT BC.. they should Speed + Dmg with low sig... think ubery uber Stabber meets Destroyer 2. Flagship - Combat Capital - NOT carrier, theyre logistics/support, NOT dreads - they're station/Capital killers. I'm thinking able to use Jump Gates, but requires fuel like Carriers per jump. Doesnt have an unkillable tank, obviously better than a BS though. Much better DMG than BS but not ridiculously so. Tons of inherent Gang bonuses. Ability to fit a ton of Gang mods. Also gets the Cyno bonuses that the Recon ships get
Benco97 Gallente Multiverse Corporation	Posted - 2006.12.24 17:23:00 - [15] A flagship in EVE would be... A dragon, RAWR! "MY GOD KEEP THIS AWAY FROM BENCO97!!!!!" - Constantine Arcanum
Diragi Interstellar Privateers Of Res Communis	Posted - 2006.12.24 17:27:00 - [16] Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker Edited by: Viktor Fyretracker on 24/12/2006 16:16:35 i dont think a Navy in EVE has a single flagship. i think they operate more like a modern navy IRL where the Supercarrier is the Command and Control center of a fleet. however id imagine All the Navies have one ship that is its Public Image flagship(ie the Aircraft Carrier USS Enterprise for the USN) Well; there was the Iowa-class battleships in Gulf War I that where used as flagships... but ya, in the modern USN battlegroups it's pretty much all about the aircraft carrier.
Redback911	Posted - 2006.12.24 17:28:00 - [17] Originally by: testteyst I still think there are 2 ship types missing desperatly needed - 1. Corvettes - between Cruiser and Battleship - NOT BC.. they should Speed + Dmg with low sig... think ubery uber Stabber meets Destroyer 2. Flagship - Combat Capital - NOT carrier, theyre logistics/support, NOT dreads - they're station/Capital killers. I'm thinking able to use Jump Gates, but requires fuel like Carriers per jump. Doesnt have an unkillable tank, obviously better than a BS though. Much better DMG than BS but not ridiculously so. Tons of inherent Gang bonuses. Ability to fit a ton of Gang mods. Also gets the Cyno bonuses that the Recon ships get So basically a ship that makes BSes redundant. Nice one.
Lucas Malbranque The Graduates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.24 17:28:00 - [18] What would a flagship in EVE be? Primary.
Outa Rileau	Posted - 2006.12.24 17:32:00 - [19] Edited by: Outa Rileau on 24/12/2006 17:37:48 hopefully a huge peen enlarger ------------------------- Getting Sig Removed / Rank 8 / SP: 762039 of 2048000
Viktor Fyretracker Caldari Worms Corp	Posted - 2006.12.24 17:57:00 - [20] Originally by: Diragi Edited by: Diragi on 24/12/2006 17:29:44 Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker Edited by: Viktor Fyretracker on 24/12/2006 16:16:35 i dont think a Navy in EVE has a single flagship. i think they operate more like a modern navy IRL where the Supercarrier is the Command and Control center of a fleet. however id imagine All the Navies have one ship that is its Public Image flagship(ie the Aircraft Carrier USS Enterprise for the USN) Well; there was the Iowa-class battleships in Gulf War I that were used as flagships (though all decommissioned now)... but ya, in the modern USN battlegroups it's pretty much all about the aircraft carrier. now if only EVE Battleship's guns were as noticeable as those on the Iowa class, i mean the Awe of a 9gun "salute" from those was amazing. id love to see a Minmatar BS with its 1400mm artys belch fire and rock back when giving a full broadside.
Paladineguru Gallente DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.24 18:00:00 - [21] Originally by: Stakhanov Command ships are supposed to be just that... no command ships are command ships, meant for field command of a designated wing or squadron within a fleet A flagship historically has been the biggest fleet vessel or the one that the fleet admiral flew his lights from. therefore a flagship would be a class of its own. maybe tier 2 titan. tho the titans could be classed as a superweapon. with flagships being made somewhat more common in fleet structure such as exists in modern wet navy's. with them being a capital ship fit for a person in fleet command.
MiIes Naismith Amarr Guru Clan	Posted - 2006.12.24 18:08:00 - [22] Looks at size of titan. looks at size of crusader. Make them basically mobile pos's that can jump. give them enough space and a system to have up to 10-20 players in interceptors docked within, able to launch. give them only gang mods and suppport for slots.
Phoenix Lord The Arrow Project The ARR0W Project	Posted - 2006.12.24 18:26:00 - [23] Pocket dread that can run siege, 8 high slots, only 2-4 hardpoints and the 3-5 spare slots will be used for gang mods. Arrow Capital Ship Sales
Hllaxiu Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.24 18:46:00 - [24] Edited by: Hllaxiu on 24/12/2006 18:46:49 Originally by: Paladineguru no command ships are command ships, meant for field command of a designated wing or squadron within a fleet A flagship historically has been the biggest fleet vessel or the one that the fleet admiral flew his lights from. therefore a flagship would be a class of its own. maybe tier 2 titan. tho the titans could be classed as a superweapon. with flagships being made somewhat more common in fleet structure such as exists in modern wet navy's. with them being a capital ship fit for a person in fleet command. A fleet's flagship is the ship from which the Admiral flies his flag. In the age of sail this was generally a larger ship as those were the only ones that had the room for the flag officer and his staff. In WWI/WWII most ships could accommodate an admiral and his staff... in general a fast ship with lots of communications gear was chosen instead of the largest. Today, fleets are generally organized around carriers, however the US has several purpose built command ships (Blue Ridge class) that are designed to command large scale amphibious landings. These ships have lots of communications equipment, helicopters and landing craft and are smaller than the fixed wing aircraft carriers (Enterprise, Nimitz, etc.). For EVE, I'd imagine that a flagship would be an advanced ship with lots of communications equipment that coordinates large scale fleet operations. Fleet command ships fit the bill currently, but perhaps a battleship sized fleet command ship would be more interesting. These ships would likely not be combat capable on their own, but give "pwnage" grade bonuses to their fleet, or allow bonuses to be applied regardless of skill levels of lower tiered commanders or something like that.... so idea: Gallente Flagship Megathron Hull (well, doesn't really matter... could be Hyp or Domi) 8/4/7 (no changes) 0 turrets/0 launchers (look, change!) Bonuses: Gallente Battleship: 3% To the effectiveness of information and armored warfare links, +1 warfare link/level. Flagship: 2% to the effectiveness of skirmish, siege and mining links, +1 system fleet bonus range/level Role Bonus: -99% to the CPU usage of warfare links/level Ship's pilot may provide bonuses to up to 50% of squadrons and wings in a fleet regardless of their commander's leadership skills. Required skills: Flagships: Fleet command 4 ship itself: Gallente battleship 5, information warfare specialist 5 (7.5million leadership skills here and counting) --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
Victor Valka Caldari Archon Industries	Posted - 2006.12.24 18:48:00 - [25] I think the important question is -- where are my Xmas epixs!? Originally by: Diana Marc Notice that BoB is agreeing with RA's concern. That's like Elrond and Sauron agreeing to reduce carbon emissions.
Ehranavaar	Posted - 2006.12.24 20:14:00 - [26] Originally by: testteyst I still think there are 2 ship types missing desperatly needed - 1. Corvettes - between Cruiser and Battleship - NOT BC.. they should Speed + Dmg with low sig... think ubery uber Stabber meets Destroyer corvettes are essentially just another name for frigates now. in the world wars they were specialist convoy escorts looking to kill subs.
Sean Dillon Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2006.12.24 20:23:00 - [27] Technoflux capship lvl 4. A capital ship with player manned turrets, would be cool imho.
Kasak Black The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.12.24 20:29:00 - [28] Originally by: Lucas Malbranque What would a flagship in EVE be? Primary. Never has a truer word been spoken
Digital Solaris	Posted - 2006.12.24 20:53:00 - [29] A flagship would be a mix of a command ship and a capital ship, one of the largest support platforms available, able to coordinate the fleets in matter of seconds. The flagship lacks any real offensive capabilities in itself, relying on a vast array of defensive systems like a phalanx defensive system, self-projected barrier and a large escort group of cruisers.
Hllaxiu Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.24 20:53:00 - [30] Originally by: Tor Manx Another odd thing I've noticed about EVE is they've re-defined the Battlecruiser. Historically the BC's had Cruiser armament with closer to BS firepower. This game tends to switch that around. Whatever works though, I'm not complaining. It's a great game the way it is. How British of you. --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson

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