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Verus Potestas
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2006.12.27 11:34:00 -
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Edited by: Verus Potestas on 27/12/2006 12:14:59 I know we're in the middle of seeding, so if this has already been addressed, win.
Anyway, I was looking at Heavy Missile Launcher II prices recently (they are quite a lot) and trying to work out why they are so high compared to everything else in their class.
The reason is that there aren't enough BPOs.
Long range cruiser lasers - 3 types, 60 BPOs Long range cruiser hybrids - 3 types, 60 BPOs Long range cruiser projectiles - 2 types, 40 BPOs Long range cruiser missiles - 1 type, 20 BPOs.
When combined with the fact that they are used on many other non-Caldari ships too (Rupture, Stabber, Sacrilege etc), this causes rather large supply/demand problems.
Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy |
TheEndofTheWorld
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Posted - 2006.12.27 11:39:00 -
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Want to know the reason?
Caldari is the most popular race!
Achura is the best char to create and everyone will be doing missions/ratting in a caracal/drake/cerberus...
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Verus Potestas
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2006.12.27 11:41:00 -
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I know they are the most popular race, but they shouldn't neccesarily be, and that ISN'T a justification to seed more BPOs.
However, having less BPOs to start with is just plain unfair
Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy |
Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2006.12.27 11:43:00 -
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true that... but then again, missles are the easy and least powerful way. i regard them for what they are: freshman weapons and/or secondary weapons later on when you realize there's more boom-potential in your skills. however, too many payers seem to be satisfied with their raven and believe a regular "imbalance!"-rant will work in their favor - and every other day, they seem to be correct, too...
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Ediz Daxx
FinFleet Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.27 11:43:00 -
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What are long range cruiser laser, hybrids and projectiles?
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Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2006.12.27 11:45:00 -
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probably med turrets/launchers
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Verus Potestas
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2006.12.27 11:46:00 -
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Edited by: Verus Potestas on 27/12/2006 11:46:43
Originally by: Ediz Daxx What are long range cruiser laser, hybrids and projectiles?
Beam lasers, (Quad Light, Focussed Medium, Heavy) Rails (D150, 200, 250) Arties (650, 720)
Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy |
Aeon Jonas
Caldari The Caldari Confederation
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Posted - 2006.12.27 11:56:00 -
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Edited by: Aeon Jonas on 27/12/2006 11:56:35
Originally by: TheEndofTheWorld Want to know the reason?
Caldari is the most popular race!
Achura is the best char to create and everyone will be doing missions/ratting in a caracal/drake/cerberus...
I am Caladri, Achura race and Fly my Drake with T2 launchers in missions and love it :P. I do feel that T2 Launchers are very expensive now. But remember all equivalents have gone up in price since Kali simply because of the new Tier 2 BC's. Before T2 Launchers oohh maybe 6 - 9 million now 13 million plus. My friend who is Minmatar says that the equivalent auto cannons etc have gone up in price as well. So its not so much the number of BPO's more so the release of more ships and a higher demand so pushes prices up.
I do love doing missions in my drake but i am starting to train Gunnery up and other races so i can fly other ships and have a different experience. As Gunnery you actually have to think about.
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.12.27 11:58:00 -
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You're missing the fact that heavy missiles got 4 (em, exp, kin, therm), not 1 type of longrange T2 ammo for each of the cruiser sized weapon systems (assault, heavy assault and heavy launchers). --*=*=*--
The cause for this is not yet known, but we do have a possible fix in testing. by Sharkbait | 2006.09.20 |
shady trader
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Posted - 2006.12.27 12:07:00 -
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My research agent is offering heavy Missle BPO's so there will be more producers in the future.
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Verus Potestas
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2006.12.27 12:09:00 -
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Edited by: Verus Potestas on 27/12/2006 12:15:23
Originally by: Tachy You're missing the fact that heavy missiles got 4 (em, exp, kin, therm), not 1 type of longrange T2 ammo for each of the cruiser sized weapon systems (assault, heavy assault and heavy launchers).
I'm not complaining about T2 ammo, I'm complaining about LAUNCHERS.
edit: I updated the OP to make this clearer.
Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy |
Gudrun Hart
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Posted - 2006.12.27 12:32:00 -
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Edited by: Gudrun Hart on 27/12/2006 12:32:05 20 BPO per Unit is was to less. T2 should not be that rare in that way, T2 is already limited by skills.
+ need a lot of skills to use T2 + nees a lot of skills to produce T2 + limited by No. of BPO (exept ammunition and unused/useless Modules)
My suggestion: seed more BPO in a monthly order or seed BPC for LP Reward, NPC loot or hidden Complexes/Belts. Use Hacking or astreologie for that.
But i dont know why CCP does make a secret about T2 BPO and why they have to be that limited like in the older days where 13k User online was a new record. Take a look how many Drake BPO are sold(or any other of the new BC)..
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Verus Potestas
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2006.12.27 12:33:00 -
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It's not 20 BPOs that's the problem so much, they are all being reseeded, so it's far more than 20 now.
The problem is that Heavies have 1/2 or 1/3 as many BPOs as their competition.
Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy |
FFGR
Maza Nostra Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.12.27 13:12:00 -
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It's more to the popularity of the Caldari race than the types.
If you open up the market, you will see that the medium railgun/arties (haven't searched for lasers) lower tier guns don't sell so well, while the highest tier (720's and 250's) sell good and at a much higher price _______
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2006.12.27 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: Verus Potestas
Long range cruiser missiles - 1 type, 20 BPOs.
We have two long range BPOs. Heavy Missile launcher and assault missile launcher.
Dunno about you, but 35km or so with light missiles is still long range unless you're sniping.
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Rafein
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Posted - 2006.12.27 17:46:00 -
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It's an influx if people wanting to by them.
Before the Drake was even mentioned, you could find them for 5 million easy, people only used them for Two ships, the Cerb and Nghthawk, and both of those ships are rarein their own rights.
Now with the Drake, everyone wants them now, which is driving up prices.
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Zephyr Mallory
Limberry Logistics Support Services
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Posted - 2006.12.27 19:18:00 -
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Only good for 2 ships? hmmph.. I fit them on my curse, sometimes on my scorpion when I'm flying support (frees up more cpu than fitting T2 cruise), and as was pointed out before, they're used on the Rupture and Sacriledge ... Just because the ship isn't caldari doesn't mean it can't use missiles. Just because the pilot is caldari, dont' assume they fly as such or cant' use a cannon.
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Miss Overlord
Gallente Ferrum Pugnus New Eve Order
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Posted - 2006.12.27 19:53:00 -
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i think a extra 2-5 might be in order as numbers grow but to be honest id likke to see more of the faction ones drop and if a faction one doesnt exist bring it in.
Also calderi navy agents should bring back the calderi navy weapons and ammo we use to get offered or have it linked in with exploration complexes.
Increase teh t1 faction gear instead of t2 stuff.
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Pinky Denmark
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Posted - 2006.12.27 19:58:00 -
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thiose prices exploded the day people started using Drakes... The same did for XR and Arbalest Heavy Missile Launchers....
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