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Bellatrix Invicta
New Order Logistics CODE.
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Posted - 2015.10.20 21:40:34 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Dracvlad wrote:perhaps in desperation the freighter accepts a dual and you go suspect as you forgot to set your safety to green and you meet your end at the hands of an Anti Ganker who seeing you go suspect thinks you are a ganker...
I've highlighted the contradictory part of your post. If a freighter pilot accepts a duel with somebody offering support they enter a limited engagement; one does not go suspect for using a repper, a web, or any other module for that matter, on the other participant(s) of a limited engagement; that is the whole damn point of the duel mechanic. Do you know how highsec aggression mechanics work? Im gonna go with "no". Also... how do you dual??
Duh, Leto.
It's TWO people Two = dual. It's a dual.
DUH, LETO.
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The CODE always wins.
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Leto Thule
Everywhere and Terrible
3932
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Posted - 2015.10.20 22:29:33 -
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Bellatrix Invicta wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Dracvlad wrote:perhaps in desperation the freighter accepts a dual and you go suspect as you forgot to set your safety to green and you meet your end at the hands of an Anti Ganker who seeing you go suspect thinks you are a ganker...
I've highlighted the contradictory part of your post. If a freighter pilot accepts a duel with somebody offering support they enter a limited engagement; one does not go suspect for using a repper, a web, or any other module for that matter, on the other participant(s) of a limited engagement; that is the whole damn point of the duel mechanic. Do you know how highsec aggression mechanics work? Im gonna go with "no". Also... how do you dual?? Duh, Leto. It's TWO people Two = dual. It's a dual. DUH, LETO.
If he can just DUAL any time he wants, whats the problem with losing ships? I mean as long as he doesnt lose the other one.
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Leto Thule
Everywhere and Terrible
3932
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Posted - 2015.10.20 22:30:20 -
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Spruillo wrote: PS 2ND PAGE HEADSHOT N WHERE R THE OLD FORUMS
I dont know, but you need to find them. And fast.
Edit: page snipes dont ******* count if you EDIT them. Thats not a headshot. Its a goddamn ricochet.
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
1183
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Posted - 2015.10.21 06:47:16 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Dracvlad wrote:perhaps in desperation the freighter accepts a dual and you go suspect as you forgot to set your safety to green and you meet your end at the hands of an Anti Ganker who seeing you go suspect thinks you are a ganker...
I've highlighted the contradictory part of your post. If a freighter pilot accepts a duel with somebody offering support they enter a limited engagement; one does not go suspect for using a repper, a web, or any other module for that matter, on the other participant(s) of a limited engagement. Nor does the status of the safety have any bearing in a limited engagement; that is the whole damn point of the duel mechanic Do you know how highsec aggression mechanics work?
Yes I do, you are deliberately mis-reading it, but that's your issue not mine.
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
1183
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Posted - 2015.10.21 06:50:25 -
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John E Normus wrote:You can actually taste the bitterness...
I was just letting him know what he had to deal with, I thought it was rather funny and I was laughing when I wrote that, you are in fact the one projecting your own bitterness on my joke post. I was also was a bit tired, had just done some fitness hence the spelling error on duel to dual, picked up on by certain grammernazi's.
Ella's Snack bar. The Hisec sandbox is basically a themepark for gankers
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
25465
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Posted - 2015.10.21 06:53:11 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Dracvlad wrote:perhaps in desperation the freighter accepts a dual and you go suspect as you forgot to set your safety to green and you meet your end at the hands of an Anti Ganker who seeing you go suspect thinks you are a ganker...
I've highlighted the contradictory part of your post. If a freighter pilot accepts a duel with somebody offering support they enter a limited engagement; one does not go suspect for using a repper, a web, or any other module for that matter, on the other participant(s) of a limited engagement. Nor does the status of the safety have any bearing in a limited engagement; that is the whole damn point of the duel mechanic Do you know how highsec aggression mechanics work? Yes I do, you are deliberately mis-reading it, but that's your issue not mine. Which bit did I misread?
What you posted, and it's not the first time, is incorrect.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
1183
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Posted - 2015.10.21 06:55:47 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Dracvlad wrote:perhaps in desperation the freighter accepts a dual and you go suspect as you forgot to set your safety to green and you meet your end at the hands of an Anti Ganker who seeing you go suspect thinks you are a ganker...
I've highlighted the contradictory part of your post. If a freighter pilot accepts a duel with somebody offering support they enter a limited engagement; one does not go suspect for using a repper, a web, or any other module for that matter, on the other participant(s) of a limited engagement. Nor does the status of the safety have any bearing in a limited engagement; that is the whole damn point of the duel mechanic Do you know how highsec aggression mechanics work? Yes I do, you are deliberately mis-reading it, but that's your issue not mine. Which bit did I misread? What you posted, and it's not the first time, is incorrect.
Just assume that his repping ship is not in a duel and the freighter accepts a duel with another person, do you get it now? You surprise me by projecting your own ignorance on me. I have seen that actually happen and I thought it was funny.
Ella's Snack bar. The Hisec sandbox is basically a themepark for gankers
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
25465
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Posted - 2015.10.21 07:04:18 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Dracvlad wrote:perhaps in desperation the freighter accepts a dual and you go suspect as you forgot to set your safety to green and you meet your end at the hands of an Anti Ganker who seeing you go suspect thinks you are a ganker...
I've highlighted the contradictory part of your post. If a freighter pilot accepts a duel with somebody offering support they enter a limited engagement; one does not go suspect for using a repper, a web, or any other module for that matter, on the other participant(s) of a limited engagement. Nor does the status of the safety have any bearing in a limited engagement; that is the whole damn point of the duel mechanic Do you know how highsec aggression mechanics work? Yes I do, you are deliberately mis-reading it, but that's your issue not mine. Which bit did I misread? What you posted, and it's not the first time, is incorrect. Just assume that his repping ship is not in a duel and the freighter accepts a duel with another person, do you get it now? You surprise me by projecting your own ignorance on me. I have seen that actually happen and I thought it was funny. That's not what you wrote though is it?
Would you please also point out where I displayed my ignorance, especially in relation to how duels and limited engagement's work.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
1183
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Posted - 2015.10.21 07:09:04 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Dracvlad wrote:
Just assume that his repping ship is not in a duel and the freighter accepts a duel with another person, do you get it now? You surprise me by projecting your own ignorance on me. I have seen that actually happen and I thought it was funny.
That's not what you wrote though is it? Would you please also point out where I displayed my ignorance, especially in relation to how duels and limited engagement's work.
Yes it is what I wrote, did I say he was already in a duel or dual in that sentence, why the hell would he go suspect if he was in a duel, I thought that was obvious, so hence your ignorance and projecting it on me, people sometimes try to be too smart on their replies and miss the obvious.
Ella's Snack bar. The Hisec sandbox is basically a themepark for gankers
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Siegfried Cohenberg
Schlomos Incorporated Shut It Down
117
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Posted - 2015.10.21 07:13:25 -
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Z'krooh wrote:Could someone make money by escorting freighters? Has anyone tried this service yet?
I, the GREAT Siegfried Cohenburger, offer my services as a freighter ESCORT. I can guarantee 100% safety against any pleb gankers who stand in our way. I start at 200m an hour. |
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
1183
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Posted - 2015.10.21 07:16:20 -
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Siegfried Cohenberg wrote:Z'krooh wrote:Could someone make money by escorting freighters? Has anyone tried this service yet? I, the GREAT Siegfried Cohenburger, offer my services as a freighter ESCORT. I can guarantee 100% safety against any pleb gankers who stand in our way. I start at 200m an hour.
Hmmmm, trust might just be an issue there...
Ella's Snack bar. The Hisec sandbox is basically a themepark for gankers
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Siegfried Cohenberg
Schlomos Incorporated Shut It Down
117
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Posted - 2015.10.21 07:19:51 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Siegfried Cohenberg wrote:Z'krooh wrote:Could someone make money by escorting freighters? Has anyone tried this service yet? I, the GREAT Siegfried Cohenburger, offer my services as a freighter ESCORT. I can guarantee 100% safety against any pleb gankers who stand in our way. I start at 200m an hour. Hmmmm, trust might just be an issue there...
Ok if you don't want 100% safety against gankers go find another bumper who is better than me. |
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
1183
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Posted - 2015.10.21 07:21:51 -
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Siegfried Cohenberg wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Siegfried Cohenberg wrote:Z'krooh wrote:Could someone make money by escorting freighters? Has anyone tried this service yet? I, the GREAT Siegfried Cohenburger, offer my services as a freighter ESCORT. I can guarantee 100% safety against any pleb gankers who stand in our way. I start at 200m an hour. Hmmmm, trust might just be an issue there... Ok if you don't want 100% safety against gankers go find another bumper who is better than me.
Don't think that's possible, I don't think I ever saw you miss a bump...
Ella's Snack bar. The Hisec sandbox is basically a themepark for gankers
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Siegfried Cohenberg
Schlomos Incorporated Shut It Down
117
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Posted - 2015.10.21 07:23:32 -
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Dracvlad wrote:
Don't think that's possible, I don't think I ever saw you miss a bump...
Then I'm the #1 freighter escort in eve and my services are highly valuable. Please freighter pilots who lurk contact me if you want to haul BIG LOADS across space. Alternatively I hear that COHENBERG'S ETHICAL HAULING over in code offers a high-collateral freight service.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc.
2171
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Posted - 2015.10.21 07:23:53 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Siegfried Cohenberg wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Siegfried Cohenberg wrote:Z'krooh wrote:Could someone make money by escorting freighters? Has anyone tried this service yet? I, the GREAT Siegfried Cohenburger, offer my services as a freighter ESCORT. I can guarantee 100% safety against any pleb gankers who stand in our way. I start at 200m an hour. Hmmmm, trust might just be an issue there... Ok if you don't want 100% safety against gankers go find another bumper who is better than me. Don't think that's possible, I don't think I ever saw you miss a bump... He misses web warps all the time but that's not due to lack of skill
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
1183
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Posted - 2015.10.21 07:39:09 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Don't think that's possible, I don't think I ever saw you miss a bump... He misses web warps all the time but that's not due to lack of skill
I did some testing with webs as I was trying to minimize my risk, if the people doing the webbing use a non-bonused ship with a single web, and if the bumper is close enough to the freighter then he may get that first bump in. The conclusion was that to be safe use web bonus ships for range and % power and faction webs if possible.
I did not see people gank the webber in all my time in hisec around gankers, though I would expect it to happen with collateral scams and people taking those contracts should use the appropriate webbing ships that are difficult to gank.
Ella's Snack bar. The Hisec sandbox is basically a themepark for gankers
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
25465
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Posted - 2015.10.21 07:47:26 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Yes it is what I wrote, did I say he was already in a duel or dual in that sentence, why the hell would he go suspect if he was in a duel, I thought that was obvious, No it's not, you're back-pedalling again.
"the freighter accepts a dual and you go suspect" implies that if freighter pilot accepts the duel from you, then you go suspect. Your statement as posted is incorrect, maybe you should try expressing yourself more clearly so that there can be no misunderstandings of what you post.
Quote: so hence your ignorance and projecting it on me, people sometimes try to be too smart on their replies and miss the obvious. How did my post display ignorance? My summation of the mechanic was factually correct, yours was not; nor was what you claim to be obvious, actually obvious.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
1183
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Posted - 2015.10.21 08:04:50 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Yes it is what I wrote, did I say he was already in a duel or dual in that sentence, why the hell would he go suspect if he was in a duel, I thought that was obvious, No it's not, you're back-pedalling again. "the freighter accepts a dual and you go suspect" implies that if freighter pilot accepts the duel from you, then you go suspect. Your statement as posted is incorrect, maybe you should try expressing yourself more clearly so that there can be no more misunderstandings of what you post. Quote: so hence your ignorance and projecting it on me, people sometimes try to be too smart on their replies and miss the obvious. How did my post display ignorance? My summation of the mechanic was factually correct, yours was not; nor was what you claim to be obvious, actually obvious.
You are extrapolating to say that I said something I did not, at no time did I say that the person was in a duel, I said he was repping and the freighter accepts a duel and his safety was not set to green, why would the safety be important in that circumstance, that was pretty clear. You just chose to read it as you did which shows your ignorance, certainly not mine.
Jonah, you are a good guy, but you are trying just a bit too hard here, we all make mistakes, I made some as you have pointed out before, I don't know all nuances of the mechanics from the gankers side and thats how it goes, its a complex game, now just chill out, in your enthusiasm to have a dig you screwed up, it happens.
Ella's Snack bar. The Hisec sandbox is basically a themepark for gankers
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
25465
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Posted - 2015.10.21 08:06:55 -
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Dracvlad wrote:You are extrapolating to say that I said something I did not, at no time did I say that the person was in a duel, I said he was repping and the freighter accepts a duel and his safety was not set to green, why would the safety be important in that circumstance, that was pretty clear. You just chose to read it as you did which shows your ignorance, certainly not mine.
I read what was posted, it's hardly my fault that your post was ambiguous at best and just plain wrong at worst.
You still haven't pointed out my ignorance BTW
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
1183
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Posted - 2015.10.21 08:08:53 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Dracvlad wrote:You are extrapolating to say that I said something I did not, at no time did I say that the person was in a duel, I said he was repping and the freighter accepts a duel and his safety was not set to green, why would the safety be important in that circumstance, that was pretty clear. You just chose to read it as you did which shows your ignorance, certainly not mine.
I read what was posted, it's hardly my fault that your post was ambiguous at best and just plain wrong at worst. You still haven't pointed out my ignorance BTW
Chill out mate, you have not done anti-ganking so it was less obvious to you in terms of the importance of the safety, that's fine.
Ella's Snack bar. The Hisec sandbox is basically a themepark for gankers
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Edriahn
BRUTAL GENESIS GaNg BaNg TeAm
11
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Posted - 2015.10.21 08:42:24 -
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Feel free to use Phylogenesis [P] freighter services to get you expensive contracts moved. Phylogenesis offers the best security, timely delivery and excellent customer service at completely acceptable prices. Feel free to contact Phylogenesis [P] and become one of many satisfied customers.
On a completely different note, I find it quite funny that Dracvlad came here, after being cast out from the other thread. It is interesting how one so ignorant about game mechanics, spends so much time posting ridiculous stories, |
Sam Moneymaker
Zdrang
2
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Posted - 2015.10.22 14:15:48 -
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Black Pedro wrote:[quote=Sam Moneymaker] [...] I am a little disappointed in you class. I recommend you spend some more time reviewing the classic ganking texts, and more time reading www.minerbumping.com to improve your performance.
I was dumb in assessing those kills...I admit. Sorry for replying like you were the ******, not me! You were right, they were hyperdunking with SBs.
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Hiasa Kite
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
286
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Posted - 2015.10.22 14:48:22 -
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Siegfried Cohenberg wrote:Z'krooh wrote:Could someone make money by escorting freighters? Has anyone tried this service yet? I, the GREAT Siegfried Cohenburger, offer my services as a freighter ESCORT. I can guarantee 100% safety against any pleb gankers who stand in our way. I start at 200m an hour. Nuts to that. PM me if you're being bumped. For 100M ISK I'll break the bump tackle. I'll even accept payment after freeing you.
<^.^> I'm a cat lol
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Hiasa Kite
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
286
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Posted - 2015.10.22 14:49:08 -
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Sam Moneymaker wrote:Black Pedro wrote:[quote=Sam Moneymaker] [...] I am a little disappointed in you class. I recommend you spend some more time reviewing the classic ganking texts, and more time reading www.minerbumping.com to improve your performance. I was dumb in assessing those kills...I admit. Sorry for replying like you were the ******, not me! You were right, they were hyperdunking with SBs. You.
I like you.
I give you a C-
<^.^> I'm a cat lol
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Estella Osoka
Perkone Caldari State
836
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Posted - 2015.10.22 19:53:46 -
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Tengu Grib wrote:Z'krooh wrote:Let's assume that freighter is escorted. Can the escorting ships help this freighter under attack in some way? Very easily yes. You can either counter bump to help the freighter get away (which is very low risk), remote rep the target (a single dude can keep the freighter up for a long time as the gankers have lots of down time between runs). In addition you can bring a single insta locking ship and keep trying to blap pods or the stealth bombers to make their lives more difficult.
Bolding and underlining this. Instalocking Thrashers are ideal for this. Not to mention, very fun.
It doesn't matter how much it is talked about. How many times we preach it. Risk averse carebears cannot be assed to take a simple counter to gankers. And it is simple because most gankers are -10, which means they can be shot on sight if you have the testicular fortitude to do so. |
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