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Quester85
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.10.23 22:34:25 -
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Hello, after a while i have decided i wanted to give EVE another try and i have a simple question.
I am a realy busy person irl and in the evenings i just want to play a game and have fun. In the past i have been with coorps but nowadays i don't like hanging on TS / mumble etc. I don't want any bosses etc. telling me what to do. I just want to play the game now my own way. Preferably solo.
What are good choices for solo players to make lots of ISK enough to buy a PLEX. Can you do stuff in like 0.5 - 0.1 sec or do i realy have to master PVP to get lots of ISK. Keep i mind i want to play alone.
Any advice for an ex-player who's thinking to return? |
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
624
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Posted - 2015.10.23 22:52:50 -
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Exploration would works just fine but i'm not sure what kind of fun you are talking about since we all have different levels of what called fun especially when you do play this unique game.
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Buoytender Bob
Ronin Exploration Mission and Mining
127
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Posted - 2015.10.23 23:10:57 -
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Staying in Hi-sec means your options are limited,especially if you are trying to Plex the account using limited time and not join a player corporation. Probably suggest exploration, but your success will be determined in fair ammount by the RNG and the area you pick to explore. You'll need to specialize both your ships and skills to make it work; fortunately the vast majority of the skills are cross career in nature. Remember that PvP happens even in hi-sec and things you find aren't yours until they are in your ship's hold...maybe not even then.
To buck the popular trend, I began to Rage Start instead of Rage Quit.
...and every time I get another piece of Carbon, I know exactly what CCP is getting this Christmas.
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Memphis Baas
712
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Posted - 2015.10.23 23:13:02 -
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PLEX prices go up based on market activities, and honestly you need to pick 2:
- lots of ISK - fast - in high sec - solo
because all 4 or even 3 is not possible.
The only way the economy is in any way balanced is if it's not all that easy to make ISK fast. This game doesn't have an XP grind like other MMOs, but it does have a money grind (like other MMOs).
Most of the money making is either slow and steady (mining, missions, industry) or "you can get really lucky like with the lottery" (scams, corp theft, suicide ganking some rich clueless fool).
EDIT: If you are busy in RL and "want to enjoy the game" then I would recommend spending $20 on a PLEX and selling it for 1 billion ISK in-game. Trying to grind the billion ISK manually will require MUCH more work and time than making $20 even at a crappy job. |
Quester85
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.10.23 23:25:04 -
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Ok i will try exploration then. Thanks for the anwers. Not saying i will stick to this playstyle forever... but i just not want to be dependant of other players.
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Sitting Bull Lakota
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2015.10.24 03:50:59 -
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Go live out of a mobile depot in someone else's sov. Run their anoms, kill their ratters, sit afk in their space. Good times. You may not make enough to plex every month, but you'll be having more fun than the average player.
Ship choice: Go t3 if you want to do more ratting than killing and you want bubble immunity. Go force recon if you want to give people heart attacks and do some exploring. Go stealth bomber if you want to lob some torpedoes into ratter's resist holes.
Godspeed, and may Bob be with you. |
MilicaPilica
Trident Enterprises Inc Perfect Dark
0
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Posted - 2015.10.24 04:10:16 -
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Some fun and profit can be had with industry. You can get a bit of everything from the thrill of running cargo through dangerous space, being able to manipulate markets with your self harvested and manufactured goods. It gives you a little bit of everything and for people like us (who can't be on as often as we'd like) you can leave a lot going on when your away from the game and still earn enough to plex over the course of a month. It won't make you rich at the start but it will keep you in game. |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1637
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Posted - 2015.10.24 04:26:13 -
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Solo, limited time, PLEX account?
Hardly comes together with fun, imo. Exploration is a good option, but you need to invest 8-10 hours focussed on that to get the ISK for PLEX, not including the time to earn the ISK for your ships, modules etc.
My recommendation, pay the sub, and do what ever you want and feels fun. It's much easier to make the ISK just for ships and stuff, you even can break-even with solo PvP from loot.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Cara Forelli
Meticulously Indifferent
1280
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Posted - 2015.10.24 06:01:27 -
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Well I just made 216 mil in prizes playing the "what am I thinking of, ask me yes or no questions" game for an hour in Dodixie local. I also sold a wormhole location for 4 billion isk once because I ran across a buyer and went out looking for it. There are many random ways to make ISK and also have fun. Those are the moments you will remember - not the endless hours of grinding the same missions or hacking the same cans.
Granted I've never plexed my accounts. But if you aren't having fun, why bother? My point being...go out and do fun stuff. You'll find ways to make isk as you go. Change it up and try new things often. Otherwise it won't be long before the grind gets to you and you decide it's not worth the effort.
If it's at all possible to just pay the subscription, I've found it's a much more enjoyable experience.
Adventures
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Netan MalDoran
Last Garrison
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Posted - 2015.10.24 07:19:57 -
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Ok, heres the run down from someone who has lived in Black Rise solo:
1: Forget paying for PLEX in game, you could have made $100 flipping burgers in the time it would take you to grind the ISK
2: Know your region!
3: Bookmarks!
4: D-scan!
5: PI can make some money if you have time to haul it
6: If you choose PvP, know that you will be a criminal if you dont grind missions, i personally am a criminal and its not nevessarely bad, just gotta be more careful!
7: Minor industry is nice, haul in a bunch of materials and build ammo/mods/hulls whenever you wanna pew!
8: If you are a criminal, highsec logistics are harder (While i have gotten indys through highsec, its interesting....) be prepared to use an alt for hauling!
9: Dont **** off the locals who live in your system!!!
10: If you want frequent PvP action, go the the dead ends in FW, i personally lived in Notoras and it was nice! Want somewhere quieter? Theres plenty of empty non-FW lowsec!
11: Exploration is a definate money maker
12: Try to fly smaller ships as your big ones will get blapped and blobbed (Running missions within a system with bigger ships is fine as long as you are doing #4!)
Any other questions, mail me!
"Your security status has been lowered." - Hell yeah it was!
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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
864
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Posted - 2015.10.24 12:56:06 -
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Quester85 wrote:Hello, after a while i have decided i wanted to give EVE another try and i have a simple question.
I am a realy busy person irl and in the evenings i just want to play a game and have fun.... Preferably solo.
What are good choices for solo players to make lots of ISK enough to buy a PLEX. Can you do stuff in like 0.5 - 0.1 sec or do i realy have to master PVP to get lots of ISK. Keep i mind i want to play alone.
This is a PvP based MMO with a focus on player created content and group activities. If you are looking for a game with engaging solo PvE content go elsewhere.
Further if you are trying to make enough isk to pay for game time in PLEX that will turn this game into a job and if you are coming here to have fun that's a rather bad idea. Honestly you are better off paying for the game time and focusing on having fun. I mean if you don't mind grinding missions day after day to put in 40 hours of work in a month to pay for a $15 sub it can be done. However I'll bet you'd make a lot more money if you just worked 40 hours of overtime at your RL job and paid for the game.
If you are really that busy IRL then IMHO it's far more important to focus on having fun in game instead of making isk.
If you insist on going this route I can save you the time and money and tell you just to find another game. You won't be playing this game long if you go about it the way that you have put forth here.
Make friends and have fun or don't bother. |
Chainsaw Plankton
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
1942
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Posted - 2015.10.24 22:18:33 -
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I mostly focus on mission blitzing for my isk. Blitzing involves knowing what missions to accept, which to decline, and enough standings you can take a small hit if you get an unlucky streak. Also requires the right ships and tactics in the missions. with okay skills 50mil/hour is possible in lv3s, recommend ship: machariel, can use almost all slots for damage, range, and scan res, plus warp speed rigs. With lower skills and resources a BC can do 3s well, not sure what the income will be though.
with high skills and the right conditions you can beat 200mil/hour in lv4s with burner missions. Again the mach is useful for general missions with the warp speed bonus, and specific ships for the various burner missions.
exploration can be fun, not sure where the rewards are at, or what skills are required though. Sounds like going low/null/wh can boost your income nicely there too. Don't need many PVP skills, and the main ones you would want are usually to avoid pvp.
Grinding for a plex isn't fun imo. and at lower levels it just takes a long time.
@ChainsawPlankto
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Quester85
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.10.24 22:30:17 -
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Thanks for all the feedback. I will be able to play for a couple of hours a week. So that will probably enough for PLEX and more each month if i train the skills the correct way. It's not my main focus though. I want to master playing this game SOLO first. I have no time for hanging on TS each evening or paying lots of ISK to be in a CORP. Well see how it goes ;) And yes fun is very important! |
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
866
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Posted - 2015.10.24 22:59:49 -
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Quester85 wrote: paying lots of ISK to be in a CORP.
I don't think that I've ever heard of a corp that actually charges people to be in it. I've heard of people trying to scam new players by telling them that they need to pay to be in a corp and I am sure there are some weird situations where there are corps that need to charge for whatever reason but that would be a very rare situation.
Short answer is that you should not be paying any isk to join or be in a corp. So you can eliminate that idea.
Quester85 wrote: I want to master playing this game SOLO first. I have no time for hanging on TS each evening
I don't ever use voice coms in this game. I know there are plenty of people that do however there are plenty that don't as well. Also voice coms does not have to take up any more time. You can play for a few hours each week on voice coms or you can play for the exact same amount of time not on voice coms. I'm not sure why you are saying that somehow voice coms needs to change the amount of time that you play.
As far as solo there are people that play the game that way I'm not saying that you can't I'm just saying it's not for most people and since you already tried eve once and left it I'm guessing that the concepts that you put forth here have something to do with why you did not stay and I'm suggesting that if you don't change them and try something different then I'm not sure how you could expect anything other than a repeat of the first time.
You don't have to join a corp if you don't want to, it's just a quick and easy way to find a group of people to play with and if you don't have a lot of time to be roaming around and making friends on your own then a corp is a good way to go about that.
It's your game you do as you want but my advice is that you make friends and play some engaging gameplay that involves doing stuff with other people. Also for new players I can't stress enough how important it is to have experienced players to ask questions of and get answers in real time.
Trading is probably the biggest isk maker in game but it typically requires a lot of game knowledge to be good at. If you are talking about steady reliable isk and dead set on being solo then high sec mission grinding is probably your best bet. Anything you that do solo in low sec, especially as an inexperienced player will likely cost you more isk than you make. A few notable exceptions would be exploration and Faction Warfare. In FW you'd have to fly super cheap ships and pick your systems carefully as well as avoid combat to do it solo but it's doable.
I've said this before and I'll say it here again that you should really be figuring out what you enjoy doing then figuring out how to make isk doing that. I've seen it happen repeatedly and if you insist on chasing after the isk and not chasing after the fun you will not last long in this game.
Figure out what you like doing and find people to do that with. If you do continue to insist on playing solo and chasing after the isk then I'd like to wish you the best of luck in what ever game that you go to when you leave here. Eve is not a linear grindy MMO with lots of engaging solo gameplay. It's a PvP based sandbox with a focus on group activities and player created content. If you try and play eve as if it were one of those other MMOs then you won't have fun here and you won't "get " Eve. So good luck. |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1638
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Posted - 2015.10.25 05:34:24 -
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About comms ...some corps force you to be available whenever you are logged in and not AFK, which is understandable (quick ping, action) but certainly not everyone's cup of tea. But this is a corp thing. In fleets you are on comms with your fleet mates, otherwise coordination won't be possible. OP, there are a lot of players, just want to have fun together for 2h without obligations ... they organize using public fleets and channels (google "NPSI", checkout Spectre Fleet and Bombers Bar). You can play EvE solo, but the majority of content is only available with team play. So a mix of solo roaming and fleet action, this is what makes EvE at least for me.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Herzyr
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
34
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Posted - 2015.10.25 16:27:46 -
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God, please don't think about making ISK to plex your own char. Plexing with ISK should be treated like real life want-but-dont-really-need. Unless you want to add unnecessary stress on your real life as it is.
I found out the hard way after burning out and quitting like 4 or 5 times in my career. It's better to think of making ISK to support your in-game needs but no more from there.
As others have mentioned, there are plenty of ISK makers out there but not all of them can be consistent on the rewards.Like you, I tend not to play a lot so I do a bit of everything, but missioning is one-if not the most consistent ISK source of them all. Just know your fits and what missions to take and which ones to ignore and you should be good to go with what little time you have.
But do remember, do a bit of everything, make your castle, smash it a bit, rebuild in another way, doing the same thing over and over is gonna break anyone sooner or later.
Just my 2c, have fun, and ffs, do not grind isk for plex, your hair and heart will thank you later. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1597
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Posted - 2015.10.25 22:47:22 -
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PLEXIng your subs should be something you do when you have excess ISK and nothing particular to do with it. It should not be a goal in itself.
What constitutes good solo ISK making activities depends on what skills you have and it will change. For a newer player who is running missions for example, ignoring LP rates and full loot and salvage while spending the time to get best market prices may be optimal. For a high SP mission alt on the other hand, blitzing for LP while ignoring loot and salvage and dumping to market buys to get more time missioning will pay better.
Similarly highsec PI pays well as a new player but there are far better things to do with your time at higher SP.
No one activity will be optimal for your whole career, be prepared to swap and change. |
Vincent Wallbanger
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
0
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Posted - 2015.10.25 23:33:03 -
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Memphis Baas wrote:PLEX prices go up based on market activities, and honestly you need to pick 2:
- lots of ISK - fast - in high sec - solo
because all 4 or even 3 is not possible.
The only way the economy is in any way balanced is if it's not all that easy to make ISK fast. This game doesn't have an XP grind like other MMOs, but it does have a money grind (like other MMOs).
Most of the money making is either slow and steady (mining, missions, industry) or "you can get really lucky like with the lottery" (scams, corp theft, suicide ganking some rich clueless fool).
EDIT: If you are busy in RL and "want to enjoy the game" then I would recommend spending $20 on a PLEX and selling it for 1 billion ISK in-game. Trying to grind the billion ISK manually will require MUCH more work and time than making $20 even at a crappy job.
buying plex with real money fits all 4 of the above:) it's expensive though.. |
Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1743
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Posted - 2015.10.26 10:34:58 -
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go to nullsec and do pirate missions
Recruiting V I R I I Small Gang Nullsec PVP
Drinking rum before 10am makes you a pirate, not an alcoholic | Angel Cartel | Serpentis |
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Bastion Arzi
Angry Mustellid Decayed Orbit
277
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Posted - 2015.10.26 12:28:01 -
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i hear level 5's are very profitable.
on that note are lv 5's reliably doable in a shield marauder? |
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Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1745
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Posted - 2015.10.26 13:03:20 -
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Bastion Arzi wrote:i hear level 5's are very profitable.
on that note are lv 5's reliably doable in a shield marauder?
yeah probably if your up for hanging around a pirate infested lowsec while you sit waiting for bastion to finish
Recruiting V I R I I Small Gang Nullsec PVP
Drinking rum before 10am makes you a pirate, not an alcoholic | Angel Cartel | Serpentis |
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Bastion Arzi
Angry Mustellid Decayed Orbit
277
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Posted - 2015.10.26 14:41:45 -
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/heart starts pounding as theres 30 secs left of bastion and something comes within 1 au. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Black Hydra Consortium.
5433
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Posted - 2015.10.26 22:11:58 -
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If level 5s are a goal, you should research passive shield tanking. It's not really used much elsewhere but is the way to go in the level 5 missions that subcaps are used in.
If your weapons do not use capacitor you become completely Immune to neuting.
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Sabriz's Rule: "Any time someone argues for a game change claiming it is a quality of life change, the change is actually a game balance change".
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Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
1297
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Posted - 2015.10.27 11:12:58 -
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A svipul can run everything up to 4/10 without even sweating anywhere in highsec, it can also run c1/c2 anoms. If wormholes are something for you, you can always put a probe launcher and a salvager on one and go for sleeperloot+nanoribbons. |
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
870
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Posted - 2015.10.27 15:08:19 -
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Bastion Arzi wrote:i hear level 5's are very profitable.
on that note are lv 5's reliably doable in a shield marauder? Level 5's are only available in low sec so you'll probably want to run them in fleet with cheapish ships.
If you are into that kind of things and don't mind fuxoring your high sec standings I would guess that pirate missions in null sec would be better isk. That is a guess however, a slightly educated one but still a guess.
As far as shield Marauder goes back when you could do level 5's in high sec bastion modules did not yet exist so I can't comment on that directly but I am fairly certain that you could solo a level 5 in a bastioned Marauder given no PvP. Keep in mind that is a general statement and each mission but be looked at individually. Shield tank is not good for EM damage and some of the level 5's neut pretty hard. |
Bastion Arzi
Angry Mustellid Decayed Orbit
280
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Posted - 2015.10.27 15:13:23 -
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just gonna use a passive rattler.
and im -9.7 dude. i live in low sec |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1642
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Posted - 2015.10.27 16:23:17 -
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Lloyd Roses wrote:A svipul can run everything up to 4/10 without even sweating anywhere in highsec, it can also run c1/c2 anoms. If wormholes are something for you, you can always put a probe launcher and a salvager on one and go for sleeperloot+nanoribbons. Can you share your Svipul fit for C1/C2?
I'm my own NPC alt.
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