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Herculite
Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.02 18:19:00 -
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My only question is.....
What happened to all the alliance type assets?
Who's running off with all the cookies that were obviously not used in the fight? There should be enough cash/material to fund a rather impressive war machine laying around in someones hangers/wallets.
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Herculite
Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.02 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: Feek I left ASCN before the war started and have made a big discovery since. ASCN space was the only real true Player-owned Empire in the game. One of the things I've done since I left is to go for a tour around a lot 0.0 and ASCN were way ahead of anyone else in the way their markets were filled and escrow was populated with goodies.
It's a shame, a real shame.
ASCN had a good market, hell it had a great market for most things.
But I'd change how you said that. ASCN was the only player owned empire that felt like you were in the NPC empires. This is part of what led to the downfall as it bored many PvPers to other corps. Outside of Tribal Souls, ASCN seemed to pride itself on being aggressively non-expansionist. Most of the types of players who win wars are not the types of players who measure their fun by ore and outposts. Those might be important, but the fun is the combat and drama around conquest.
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Herculite
Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.02 22:18:00 -
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When your alliance leader quits mid war, who is betrayed? (I wonder if he was blacklisted for leaving mid war eh?)
Most ASCN corps were no different than renter corps in BoB. The alliance skimmed with taxes etc, and in the end they got nothing for it. From what I can see, BoB does favor alliances/corps willing to fight for their space and I'm sure that deals can be worked out that are not much different than they had under ASCN.
ASCN loved to toss out the term 'slave' corp about all of their enemies. G/Iron was all slave corps, BoB has their 'slave' corps, any corp that wasn't part of the alliance directly were 'slave corps'. In the end how does this differ from most people in ASCN? You pay your taxes 'to the man' and get the right to live in that space, and fight for it.
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Herculite
Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.03 18:09:00 -
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Since we have CLS's attention now, I do have an entirely unrelated question.
Who's running off with all the alliance cookies?
On paper, ASCN should have been able to field unlimited t1 fitted bs's for all members just by keeping the trit flowing, and if CEO pre-kali stockpiles were to be believed, there were plenty of mins saved. Since it seems everyone went broke in the war on their own wallet, and a few dozen lost pos's deployed in bob space and even the titan don't come close to covering the assets, where did all the cookies go?
The chief cookie cutter my have retired, but the dough was still there.
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Herculite
Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.03 22:31:00 -
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What? No one wants to talk about the alliance cookies?
I have a feeling ASCN's wealth (that which hasn't been sold to BoB) will have the same echo as I hear about Xetic.
Where did the mins go?
Someone out there has the cookie cutters dough.
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Herculite
Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.04 00:03:00 -
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Edited by: Herculite on 04/01/2007 00:04:28
Originally by: MuthaTrucka
Originally by: Havras
Originally by: MuthaTrucka
Originally by: Herculite What? No one wants to talk about the alliance cookies?
I have a feeling ASCN's wealth (that which hasn't been sold to BoB) will have the same echo as I hear about Xetic.
Where did the mins go?
Someone out there has the cookie cutters dough.
What Minerals? You need to be more specific. I mean A good Conspiracy Theory has Bad Guys, God Guys, a Diabolical plot, and a Massive Cover Up. Come back when your Tinfoil hattery has all that then we can debate endless over the Xetic Minerals that no one can prove ever existed.
He's talking about the ASCN mineral stockpiles and capital fleet, MT.
Oh did we have one? If we did Have one I guess a random guy from FIX would know huh. /me goes off to sell the missing Xetic minerals
Yea I mean, how could anyone put 2 and 2 together in ASCN spent almost nothing at the alliance level, and if you recall one of Gungas posts where he was rather upset at the lack of spending in the alliance (not on this forum of course, I just lost access to that forum 2 days ago, can you guess which one?) you can see where all this 'tinfoil' hattery comes about.
Add to it that I have friends in BoB who happened to buy some dreads from CLS pilots in AZN two weeks ago and I have to wonder. While I left ASCN just prior to the BoB war starting due to differences with my CEO's 'style' I did still have a lot of friends there and I think you should be open as to what 'alliance' level assets are out there.
The rumor is that the minerals Cyvok was going to give to Virt never got there, and if not, where did they go?
I suppose the best thing that happened for those who will take what they can is the Titan got blown up, such a big asset is easy to follow, but you can't tell me that ASCN spent almost a years worth of carebearing wealth in the war on BoB, unless all ASCN had to show for it were a dozen POS's they couldn't manage to fuel, the titan, and a handful of dreds.
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