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doctorstupid2
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.04 09:27:00 -
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Edited by: doctorstupid2 on 04/01/2007 09:32:30
Originally by: Leto Twin
Originally by: doctorstupid2 Edited by: doctorstupid2 on 04/01/2007 08:27:02
Originally by: Leto Twin And to another poster, I also wonder why you would set login traps at all, you guys seem fairly adept. But you do. And perhaps it was to get some easy kills with few losses.
1) No we sure don't, and you have yet to furnish a rational basis for this accusation. Put up or shut up. 2) We get easy kills with few losses regardless, if there's to be a 'winner' of this mindless little war we're ahead not only in total ship kills, but isk value destroyed as well. And by no small margin.
As for the Bhiz and surrounding area, there's a very good reason you'll often see larger AXE gangs there: We also have an active war with goonswarm. And what are the goons famous for? You guessed it, overwhelming numbers. if you don't like getting ganked by 'blobs' (see my posts in the other logonski thread for my thoughts on alleged blobbing, in fact I'll save you the searching: Linkage) maybe you should try looking for haulers somewhere we don't need to operate in large groups.
My ships are generally > blobs. Without WCS. Ask your guys, I wave as I warp in and out at 100km, 20km, watchspots at 350km.
I don't look for haulers. I look for fun fights, and that generally does not include login/off traps. Haulers are like cookies, where the fun fights are an entire cake.
I don't beleive your use (or non-use, as it were) of WCS ever came into question here. But I am kind of tired so it's possible I missed that argument.
Anyway, we're here for fun, it's a game, logging out of game to gank a bunch of gankers that attacked a lone thorax they outnumbered (omgblobzorz!) isn't how we do things. Hopefully the irony of you crying about blobbing when attacking a solo ship with a gang, and then getting worked, has not gone overlooked. I know you prefer to call it a 'group,' but since the killmail cannot be located, nor any of your lossmails, and you haven't given any factual information on this incident, we don't really know it wasn't a blob now do we?
EDIT: For those of you getting tired of reading at this point in the thread, allow me to summarize.
Originally by: Leto Twin we were trying to blob a thorax, and axe h4xploited to defeat our blob. it was ok when we tried to gang bang a thorax, but not ok when you outnumbered us by a ratio less than our original ratio against the thorax. oh, and i have no proof of any of this.
h4x!
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Leto Twin
Amarr Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.04 09:32:00 -
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Originally by: doctorstupid2
Originally by: Leto Twin
Originally by: doctorstupid2 Edited by: doctorstupid2 on 04/01/2007 08:27:02
Originally by: Leto Twin And to another poster, I also wonder why you would set login traps at all, you guys seem fairly adept. But you do. And perhaps it was to get some easy kills with few losses.
1) No we sure don't, and you have yet to furnish a rational basis for this accusation. Put up or shut up. 2) We get easy kills with few losses regardless, if there's to be a 'winner' of this mindless little war we're ahead not only in total ship kills, but isk value destroyed as well. And by no small margin.
As for the Bhiz and surrounding area, there's a very good reason you'll often see larger AXE gangs there: We also have an active war with goonswarm. And what are the goons famous for? You guessed it, overwhelming numbers. if you don't like getting ganked by 'blobs' (see my posts in the other logonski thread for my thoughts on alleged blobbing, in fact I'll save you the searching: Linkage) maybe you should try looking for haulers somewhere we don't need to operate in large groups.
My ships are generally > blobs. Without WCS. Ask your guys, I wave as I warp in and out at 100km, 20km, watchspots at 350km.
I don't look for haulers. I look for fun fights, and that generally does not include login/off traps. Haulers are like cookies, where the fun fights are an entire cake.
I don't beleive your use (or non-use, as it were) of WCS ever came into question here. But I am kind of tired so it's possible I missed that argument.
Anyway, we're here for fun, it's a game, logging out of game to gank a bunch of gankers that attacked a lone thorax they outnumbered (omgblobzorz!) isn't how we do things. Hopefully the irony of you crying about blobbing when attacking a solo ship with a gang, and then getting worked, has not gone overlooked. I know you prefer to call it a 'group,' but since the killmail cannot be located, nor any of your lossmails, and you haven't given any factual information on this incident, we don't really know it wasn't a blob now do we?
In my time in the Privateers I've not seen a PRVTR blob.
This topic was based around the login/offs of the members of AXE, not their blobs. I believe my 'whine' was of the login/offs of AXE. Of course, not so much a whine, as I lost nothing and therefore nothing to whine about, as much as another name and shame.
Ollo was flamed for posting that AXE uses these cowardly tactics, and I had much better evidence that they do.
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KIAEddZ
Caldari KIA Corp
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Posted - 2007.01.04 09:35:00 -
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Edited by: KIAEddZ on 04/01/2007 09:36:32 Set 1 thorax at gate with plates and tank.
Have him warp about a bit looking for the mark.
When he finds them he waits for aggro (he should insta pop but I'm guessing you didnt have a lot of firepower)
The gank sqaud jump in at gatethey are at, and warp to member.
Bhizeba is a fairly small system, meaning they would arrive within 30 seconds of the jump in, if that.
Watch as Privateer make another stupid claim of login traps just 1 day after making complete assesof themselves.
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doctorstupid2
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.04 09:36:00 -
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Originally by: Leto Twin Ollo was flamed for posting that AXE uses these cowardly tactics, and I had much better evidence that they do.
Where is it?
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KIAEddZ
Caldari KIA Corp
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Posted - 2007.01.04 09:37:00 -
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Originally by: Leto Twin Ollo was flamed for posting that AXE uses these cowardly tactics, and I had much better evidence that they do.
EVIDENCE?
EVIDENCE????
Then let us have it m8y, cos this qualifies as a PROOF or STFU situation imho.
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Fitz Chivalry
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2007.01.04 09:48:00 -
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Originally by: Murphy
Originally by: ollobrains so yes other privateers are now watching and naming and shaming as they occour.
The only people you're naming and shaming are yourselves.
Speaking of strange tactics, I was just wondering why AXE have now started ganking members of ASCN?
Didn't we try to help you with your AAA problem and weren't we all supposed to be great mates? If you want fights then fine, though as you may have noticed we are a bit preoccupied atm, but ganking people who have you set to +10 is a bit lame no?
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Steel Rat
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.04 10:09:00 -
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Originally by: Fitz Chivalry
Speaking of strange tactics, I was just wondering why AXE have now started ganking members of ASCN?
Didn't we try to help you with your AAA problem and weren't we all supposed to be great mates? If you want fights then fine, though as you may have noticed we are a bit preoccupied atm, but ganking people who have you set to +10 is a bit lame no?
Which part of AXE is Resetting ALL Standings, Friends and Foes alike, to 0.0 on Jan 1, 2007, didn't you understand? Everyone else seemed to get the memo when Axe left Impass. I think thats over 2 weeks of notice of a standings change. Not like I suddenly dropped a rock on your head and said SURPRISE! YOUR NOT BLUE ANYMORE!
But to make ya feel better: SURPRISE! YOUR NOT BLUE ANYMORE!
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Fitz Chivalry
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2007.01.04 10:14:00 -
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Originally by: Steel Rat
Originally by: Fitz Chivalry
Speaking of strange tactics, I was just wondering why AXE have now started ganking members of ASCN?
Didn't we try to help you with your AAA problem and weren't we all supposed to be great mates? If you want fights then fine, though as you may have noticed we are a bit preoccupied atm, but ganking people who have you set to +10 is a bit lame no?
Which part of AXE is Resetting ALL Standings, Friends and Foes alike, to 0.0 on Jan 1, 2007, didn't you understand? Everyone else seemed to get the memo when Axe left Impass. I think thats over 2 weeks of notice of a standings change. Not like I suddenly dropped a rock on your head and said SURPRISE! YOUR NOT BLUE ANYMORE!
But to make ya feel better: SURPRISE! YOUR NOT BLUE ANYMORE!
Normally these resets are more like "a reset except for all the people we were friends with, oh and those five others". Oh well.
Glad now i spent those evening in 68ft trying to help you guys out. Still i look forward to ganking you repeatedly in the future.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.01.04 10:16:00 -
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Originally by: Fitz Chivalry
Originally by: Steel Rat
Originally by: Fitz Chivalry
Speaking of strange tactics, I was just wondering why AXE have now started ganking members of ASCN?
Didn't we try to help you with your AAA problem and weren't we all supposed to be great mates? If you want fights then fine, though as you may have noticed we are a bit preoccupied atm, but ganking people who have you set to +10 is a bit lame no?
Which part of AXE is Resetting ALL Standings, Friends and Foes alike, to 0.0 on Jan 1, 2007, didn't you understand? Everyone else seemed to get the memo when Axe left Impass. I think thats over 2 weeks of notice of a standings change. Not like I suddenly dropped a rock on your head and said SURPRISE! YOUR NOT BLUE ANYMORE!
But to make ya feel better: SURPRISE! YOUR NOT BLUE ANYMORE!
Normally these resets are more like "a reset except for all the people we were friends with, oh and those five others". Oh well.
Glad now i spent those evening in 68ft trying to help you guys out. Still i look forward to ganking you repeatedly in the future.
Therein lies the difference between Xetic and non-Xetic.
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Fitz Chivalry
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2007.01.04 10:18:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Fitz Chivalry
Originally by: Steel Rat
Originally by: Fitz Chivalry
Speaking of strange tactics, I was just wondering why AXE have now started ganking members of ASCN?
Didn't we try to help you with your AAA problem and weren't we all supposed to be great mates? If you want fights then fine, though as you may have noticed we are a bit preoccupied atm, but ganking people who have you set to +10 is a bit lame no?
Which part of AXE is Resetting ALL Standings, Friends and Foes alike, to 0.0 on Jan 1, 2007, didn't you understand? Everyone else seemed to get the memo when Axe left Impass. I think thats over 2 weeks of notice of a standings change. Not like I suddenly dropped a rock on your head and said SURPRISE! YOUR NOT BLUE ANYMORE!
But to make ya feel better: SURPRISE! YOUR NOT BLUE ANYMORE!
Normally these resets are more like "a reset except for all the people we were friends with, oh and those five others". Oh well.
Glad now i spent those evening in 68ft trying to help you guys out. Still i look forward to ganking you repeatedly in the future.
Therein lies the difference between Xetic and non-Xetic.
wow, that was profound.
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Murphy
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.04 10:22:00 -
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What nights in 68ft? I seriously don't think I ever saw you in 68. I know cause if I had I would have been asking to join the -A- gangs to shoot you.
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Fitz Chivalry
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2007.01.04 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: Murphy What nights in 68ft? I seriously don't think I ever saw you in 68. I know cause if I had I would have been asking to join the -A- gangs to shoot you.
I brought a large ASCN gang down when you were trying (and failing) to take down the main AAA POS in 68ft, we even got the titan lined up to come in and were trying to get our dread fleet together as you could not manage to get a single one online, I was also there the following evening where I lost a megathron to AAA, and funnily enough I never saw you, or any other leads there either other than Kezz.
And yes, you would need to join a AAA gang to have any chance.
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doctorstupid2
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.04 10:31:00 -
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Originally by: Fitz Chivalry Normally these resets are more like "a reset except for all the people we were friends with, oh and those five others". Oh well.
That, uh, wouldn't be much of a reset, now would it?
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DeathGrip
Amarr Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.05 03:58:00 -
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Originally by: Fitz Chivalry
Originally by: Murphy What nights in 68ft? I seriously don't think I ever saw you in 68. I know cause if I had I would have been asking to join the -A- gangs to shoot you.
I brought a large ASCN gang down when you were trying (and failing) to take down the main AAA POS in 68ft, we even got the titan lined up to come in and were trying to get our dread fleet together as you could not manage to get a single one online, I was also there the following evening where I lost a megathron to AAA, and funnily enough I never saw you, or any other leads there either other than Kezz.
And yes, you would need to join a AAA gang to have any chance.
TBH ASCN calling anyone a failure is kinda like the kettle calling the pot black. Think I have that saying right. Just like half ASCN that left that shoots us when we helped defend AZN in the Iron / G war. Or just like we helped defend PS in the BoB war when you failed. Guess what mate, it happens you move on and learn from it. What I think Axe learned (This is from me not actualy SteelRat) is that all the friends in the world do you no good except make the game boring. In the past week I have had more fun not worrying about who I can and cant shoot than I have had in Eve in a long time. I miss some of the 100+ fleets, but we will get those again I am sure as well when we decide on our new home.
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oodin
Beyond Divinity Inc Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.05 10:34:00 -
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Originally by: hangnoose
Originally by: Cmdr Sy
Originally by: hangnoose There are about 3 other gates IIRC in bhizheba.
How do you know they didn't JUMP IN and warp?
Do you have axiom in your address books? Are you paying attention if they log in and out? Or are you just assuming?
Total of five in that system.
And address books are a pointless exercise when you just made all of Empire 0.0 for yourself.
I have no opinion on this, except to say there are inevitably lamers on all sides of any war, and pointing the finger at someone only makes things worse when your own side lets you down later.
I still use my adressbook for hostiles.... pointless to some because of local, but I use mine to get an idea of how many people are online, and a general idea about how many people an enemy fleet can muster up if needed.
but we have almost 40 active alliance wars and i dont want my buddylist to look as my old bookmark list did
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ollobrains
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.05 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: oodin
Originally by: hangnoose
Originally by: Cmdr Sy
Originally by: hangnoose There are about 3 other gates IIRC in bhizheba.
How do you know they didn't JUMP IN and warp?
Do you have axiom in your address books? Are you paying attention if they log in and out? Or are you just assuming?
Total of five in that system.
And address books are a pointless exercise when you just made all of Empire 0.0 for yourself.
I have no opinion on this, except to say there are inevitably lamers on all sides of any war, and pointing the finger at someone only makes things worse when your own side lets you down later.
I still use my adressbook for hostiles.... pointless to some because of local, but I use mine to get an idea of how many people are online, and a general idea about how many people an enemy fleet can muster up if needed.
but we have almost 40 active alliance wars and i dont want my buddylist to look as my old bookmark list did
15000 + names god no ive just got my list down to 40-50 old time and new contacts that i speak to often.
we have standings displayed in local for a reason now tho id like to see local totally removed to make war more dangerous and fun only finding youre prey when u land on top of em
All posts made by myself represent my personal opinion only - they do not represent the rest of the privateer alliacne unless they decide to agree with what im saying
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Benny Hill
Caldari Deceased Inc
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Posted - 2007.01.05 16:08:00 -
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Which research agent has the Tech II Tin Foil hat as a predictable? Are Privateers selling that module to raise their isk?
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Sean Drake
Caldari Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.05 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Rikeka Edited by: Rikeka on 04/01/2007 01:44:03 We here on EOG salute our former comrades of AXE. Keep it up!
Also:
Quote: We Privateers pick our fights, and three or four vs eight just isn't one we would choose.
:S
Yeah these guys need to outnumber us 3 to 1 before they will fight
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Prince Asmodai
United Society Starfleet Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.06 02:21:00 -
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I remember that Tenfingers guy was there in a BS to help us alot. He even helped us run the gatecamp throughout the night. I went to bed around an hour before DT. I awoke to something like. "AAA overran the Gatecamp, Get to the POS!" I was like..oh ****. But I think that was they day we finally got their POS. Oh well GOOD TIMES!!!!
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WETRAIN
Minmatar ROMANIA Renegades
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Posted - 2007.01.06 07:33:00 -
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R. 3 . T . 4 . D. S g 3 t 4 l 1 f 3! ----------------------------------------- When People are Ready the Master will come. - Original by Anihilus - -----------------------------------------
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