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SolApathy
Guardians of Hell's Gate
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2007.01.06 21:22:00 -
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Well last major event that really crossed the line in my opinion. This was when the events team posing as the Guristas teamed up with .5 and FE etc to assualt IRON and G pos so my question is why havent there been any events like this again.
Did ccp actually decide this crossed the line after dismissing these accusations at the time.
are the events team .5, FE or BoB alts? *Queue a shrek of fear*
i mean ill probably get silenced for this but there hasnt been an event like this (if there has then ill just shut up please do tell me.) and i find this surprising consider at the time it was such a big thing and all the GMs just dismissed it as normal at the time, no flame intended just constructive comments please. :)
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MysticNZ
Solstice Systems Development Concourse
The Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.06 21:26:00 -
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Yeah I remember that, was bloody awesome :) IMO they need more events like this. I thought they just hired more event staff as well. Would be good to see mini events every now and then, IE: hauler gang or something going through low sec or some gm drones in the new region.
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Tehyarec
Erasers inc.
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.01.06 21:29:00 -
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I haven't been to any, but I've read of several from the news. And of course there was that event where Serpentis stole the Nyx, in which my brother was taking part - I missed it by just like 30 minutes or so.
From what I understand, smaller events take place quite often, you just have to be lucky enough to run into them. I never have such luck I'm afraid 
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.01.06 21:33:00 -
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Well they did tho that half arsed attempt at an event by putting news bullitins about Sansha's Nation building up their forces. Quite a few 'Sansha Drone' ships were seen and destroyed in Stain. Nothing more came of it, maybe they got bored.
 Originally by: Nev Clavain
If a war of such scale does go down the sheer forum activity will probably put the server down for good.
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Elendar
Slacker Industries
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Posted - 2007.01.06 21:34:00 -
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probably because they ****ed off a lot of people, suddenly creating deathstar posses in peoples systems, giving their enemys support and places to stage from and generally affecting wars on the whim of the entierly unbiased event team
Originally by: ph33rf4ct0ry
Xirt must be one of the GREAT leaders in eve to keep you guys shooting shuttles in hophib
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Deidranna
SteelVipers
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.01.06 21:44:00 -
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Edited by: Deidranna on 06/01/2007 21:44:29
1 remember 2 from syndicate, last year.
there was an event with serpentis smuggling drugs with freighters into empire, early May last year i think.
protected by NORAD and D2
Concord gathered a fleet to stop the convoy in PF-346, ofc they failed.
bob came to concords aid, followed by a nice battle bob vs d2. with about 50+ dead d2 and 30+ dead bob :) (don't poke me on the numbers kthx ;) )
afaik the plan was to do some regular runs for the next weekends, but never happend.
then there was the stolen gallente mothership.
concord gathered people in empire, made promises about rewards and then goons/lfc destroyed the mothership.
gathered people got angry and killed the concord officers. followed by some nice smacking on the forums
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Verone
Veto.
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Posted - 2007.01.06 21:46:00 -
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There were a few events that centered around the Kassigainen ARC, they were pretty impressive.
There's been a fair few events since the Nyx theft, it's just getting involved with them, if you don't follow the RP side of the game that's difficult 
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SolApathy
Guardians of Hell's Gate
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2007.01.06 21:50:00 -
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BUT from my understanding none of these events included actual killing of POS to severly aid one side like what happened in to IRON and G.
i mean there have been events yeah but no POS bashing from the events team thats mainly what im taling about.
i mean a good skirmish with some events team is good but not something that can potentially drastically change/aid a certain group ingame.
Just my 2isk
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Noriath
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Posted - 2007.01.08 07:02:00 -
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Anyone can choose to ally themselves with factions that Aurora controlls, so it's not like the actors are picking sides. It's people who shoot down actors instead of trying to get along with them that pick the sides, and they should be prepared to suffer all possible consequences. 
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Monarch
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.08 07:20:00 -
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trying to undock in Jita 4/4 is an event
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Trinity Faetal
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.01.08 07:33:00 -
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Originally by: Monarch
trying to undock in Jita 4/4 is an event
10/10 
afaik events happen when ppl approach aurora and say, hey this would be cool, then aurora put it in motion and usually get killed  .
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Prince Asmodai
United Society Starfleet
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.08 07:47:00 -
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Originally by: Monarch
trying to undock in Jita 4/4 is an event
AMEN to that!!
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2007.01.08 08:06:00 -
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There are lots of little events going on all the time. Most of the eve population doesn't really get to see them though because they usually involve ISD members giving awesome loot and prizes to their alliance friends.
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Rift Scorn
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.08 08:17:00 -
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Originally by: Deidranna
Concord gathered a fleet to stop the convoy in PF-346, ofc they failed.
bob came to concords aid, followed by a nice battle bob vs d2. with about 50+ dead d2 and 30+ dead bob :)
That was an awesome fight btw! 
I was a bit disappointed it didn't happen according to the 'story-line' in PF- - but none-the-less one of best medium scale fights i'd been in for a long time! Cans ruddy everywhere after that 
It was actually the first 'Story-line' based fight i'd ever been in, and watching both sides RP it up was definatley something new that i thought i'd never be into in anyway
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Callie Nefarious
The Legion.
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Posted - 2007.01.08 10:09:00 -
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Events???? Not seen one my entire eve time. Got to agree they seem to be to hand out loot to friends.
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Toppar Wear
Celestial Apocalypse
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.01.08 10:13:00 -
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Edited by: Toppar Wear on 08/01/2007 10:11:01
There where a time when they did some major pos events but as we all know the servers cant handle pos assaults..
There was a serp pos in AZN under the ASCN rule and a few serp dreads aswell. Well lets just say that the lag was so immens that it really wasnt funny (blob ftw? )
And the reward was okay but nothing like the losses, a few million faction ammo which wasnt to be sold publicly.
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Kung Zao
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Posted - 2007.01.08 10:17:00 -
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We once had a gm in local telling us to stop jetting cans to catch cloakers....was pretty exciting but the loot was crappy
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.08 10:20:00 -
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Wherent people trying havoc and murder over the GM bias at the time? I think theres your reason why the cancelled the whole event team partaking in anything meaningful idea. The losing side will pretty much always whine like a little *****.
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Sinlare
Gallente
Sinlare Auditorium
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Posted - 2007.01.08 10:26:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
There are lots of little events going on all the time. Most of the eve population doesn't really get to see them though because they usually involve ISD members giving awesome loot and prizes to their alliance friends.
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HankMurphy
Pelennor Swarm
Eternal Rangers of Terror
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Posted - 2007.01.08 11:06:00 -
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Edited by: HankMurphy on 08/01/2007 11:03:23
Originally by: SolApathy
BUT from my understanding none of these events included actual killing of POS to severly aid one side like what happened in to IRON and G.
i mean there have been events yeah but no POS bashing from the events team thats mainly what im taling about.
i mean a good skirmish with some events team is good but not something that can potentially drastically change/aid a certain group ingame.
Just my 2isk
and at a critical moment....
with a clap of thunder and a glint in their eyes the devs jump a couple angel titans in and save ISS's collective arses
shar...shhhhh!! shares? sherrie i said sherrie. shares? what?! shares of what?!? huh? i dont understand 'shares' wtf? i dont even play eve. your breaking up, oh look *locked for trolling*
i'm wrapped in tinfoil. head to toe
edit to have to change ***** to clap? ***** isn't even a swear word
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Hoshi
Blackguard Brigade
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Posted - 2007.01.08 13:15:00 -
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We had a few events in curse during the summer. The angel summit and the erection of an angel pos in sansha space.
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Wild Rho
Amarr
Black Omega Security
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Posted - 2007.01.08 13:49:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Wherent people trying havoc and murder over the GM bias at the time? I think theres your reason why the cancelled the whole event team partaking in anything meaningful idea. The losing side will pretty much always whine like a little *****.
Sounds about right.
Pretty much everytime the event teams have tried to do somthing meaningful within Eve (news reports on player alliances, major events etc) they've been greeted by an onslaught on moaning and complaining about people saying it's not fair XXX alliance got the attention etc.
Would put anyone off wanting to get involved with any large scale events.
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James Snowscoran
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.08 14:12:00 -
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If the players that get involved with the event aren't properly rewarded, they usually destroy the event actors' ships, grab the fat loot, and crash the rest of the story arc (at least partially).
If they do get properly rewarded, their enemies will bitch and whine that ISD are alts of x corp/alliance and always trying to find ways to give their mains access to easy freebies.
Kind of annoying, that.
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2007.01.08 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: Sinlare
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
There are lots of little events going on all the time. Most of the eve population doesn't really get to see them though because they usually involve ISD members giving awesome loot and prizes to their alliance friends.
/me hands Shamis his tinfoil hat.
Nice try ISD alt. I'll not bother saying more for now. But someday I'll destroy your fragile little world of lies.
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qantua gnartians
Gallente
Cosmic Odyssey
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Posted - 2007.01.08 15:22:00 -
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The main problem seams to be they arent properly anounced and yes it seams to turn into whoever gets news about it fast enough to get in on it gets reward.
The whole kassington incindent for instance wry was there no gallente aligned Player corp invited to counter veto?, it could have been turned into a large multi party event but it was only veto and NPC's as far as i recall.
I think what causes the most *****ing, is that it dont seams to be that easy to actually tet info on comming events in due time. the event forum for instance is pretty cluttered with threads that dont have directly relations to an ISD organised event, as i i write thist no reference is made to ISD organised events on the front page of event forums.
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James Snowscoran
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.01.08 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Originally by: Sinlare
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
There are lots of little events going on all the time. Most of the eve population doesn't really get to see them though because they usually involve ISD members giving awesome loot and prizes to their alliance friends.
/me hands Shamis his tinfoil hat.
Nice try ISD alt. I'll not bother saying more for now. But someday I'll destroy your fragile little world of lies.
It's a conspiracy!!!11
Just look at this!
I hate SniggerDly
ISD is a secret conspiracy for snigg haters!!!!!!!
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Eddie Gordo
Minmatar
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.01.08 15:29:00 -
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A VERY recent faction event
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Charles Yeager
V I R I I
Center for Disease Creation
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Posted - 2007.01.08 15:32:00 -
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Edited by: Charles Yeager on 08/01/2007 15:35:30
Edited by: Charles Yeager on 08/01/2007 15:29:09
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
There are lots of little events going on all the time. Most of the eve population doesn't really get to see them though because they usually involve ISD members giving awesome loot and prizes to their alliance friends.
QFT
I was hoping we could get some statistics on Motherships. How many are in game, and of those in game how many were event prizes?
On the issue of people whining, the big events should not be centered around player alliances. Alliances are the domain of the players, not ISD. They can do really cool stuff in empire if they choose, just leave player sovereign space to the players. Hopefully faction warfare will add the needed spice, but I am not holding my breath.
I think people would have tolerated ISD news reporting if the real characters behind ISD volunteers were known. But using anonymity to feign unbiased reporting was too mcuh for some people. I myself thought the whole 'Scope' forum (anyone remember that?) was amazing.
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Galen.
ISD AURORA
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.01.08 17:13:00 -
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As for the original question: we are working on bringing more life into the Guristas again. Currently plans for this are beeing developed and logistics for it put in place by one of our senior event producers. We do however, as always, depend on the manpower we have. WeŚre also limited by it. Contrary to what many would believe we have lives and sometimes we even use our time to actually play EVE. We also have families, wives, husbands, children. Aurora is a volunteer team, not payed staff.
And all these allegations of beeing biased....
When we hand out rewards anyone who doesnt get one can accuse us of beeing that.
Is it true? No.
Do we give awesome loot and prizes to our alliance friends as Shamiz so nicely put it? No.
Will you believe me if i tell you that? I got no idea.
I will only say this once: If you have proof of someone in the events team using their position to help their alliance or corp then by all means send it to me ([email protected]). A person that did that would have no place with us.
If you dont have proof then stop these unfounded allegations right now.
We put a lot of time and effort in events and i wont let my team be falsly accused for the job they are doing.
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2007.01.08 18:45:00 -
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Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 08/01/2007 18:41:59
And another thing that needs mentioning.
Why on earth would ANY 0.0 pirate faction HELP the people who shoot them EVERY day in the belts?
Artificial content is lame. Especially when I don't get any of the free stuff.
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Oreh Anavrin
ECP Rogues
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.08 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Originally by: Galen.
Do we give awesome loot and prizes to our alliance friends as Shamiz so nicely put it? No.
Will you believe me if i tell you that? I got no idea.
As somebody else asked, lets see some statistics.
How many motherships have ISD given away? To whom were they given? And who was privy to the event in the first place? I've been trying to get a mothership for months, and it really ****es me off when I heard about nearly secret events that were CLEARLY intended for one alliance in particular that result in VERY valuable items being given away.
Shamis
I don't nesiccarily agree but it IS a fair question. The balls in ISD's court but I highly doubt there will be any more noise from them 
Would love to be proven wrong though.
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Herculite
Hunters Agency
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.08 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 08/01/2007 18:41:59
And another thing that needs mentioning.
Why on earth would ANY 0.0 pirate faction HELP the people who shoot them EVERY day in the belts?
Yea I never did understand that part.
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Galen.
ISD AURORA
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.01.08 19:39:00 -
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Edited by: Galen. on 08/01/2007 19:37:00
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
How many motherships have ISD given away? To whom were they given? And who was privy to the event in the first place? I've been trying to get a mothership for months, and it really ****es me off when I heard about nearly secret events that were CLEARLY intended for one alliance in particular that result in VERY valuable items being given away.
Shamis
read here: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=405587
As you can see this event was not nearly as secret as you think. In fact, with it beeing announced publically i would even say it was the opposite.
The mothership was not just given away, it was a competition that required logistics and effort. Oh, and the competition was open for all.
Edit: changed URL to an actual link
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Galen.
ISD AURORA
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.01.08 20:14:00 -
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Maybe this is a good time to also repost the link to our FAQ Thread, it answers the basic questions of where to look for events.
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Eldo Davip
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.01.08 20:16:00 -
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Reading the Intergalactic Summit forum is a good place to find events too.
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Superbus Maximus
Gallente
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2007.01.08 20:38:00 -
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Well I dont know if your giving these things to all your alliance buddies or not. I do know one thing though is that you do a **** poor job of letting corps in regions where these events happen know about them. I browse every board on this forum at least once a day and rarely do I see news about them. You guys might wanna rethink how you put out information about these because a lot of people dont seem to be getting it.
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Edheler
Quintessential
Continuum.
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Posted - 2007.01.08 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: Galen.
read here: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=405587
As you can see this event was not nearly as secret as you think. In fact, with it beeing announced publically i would even say it was the opposite.
The mothership was not just given away, it was a competition that required logistics and effort. Oh, and the competition was open for all.
Edit: changed URL to an actual link
Ok, so you had a "competition" for a mothership which would cost approximately 5 billion ISK with delivery to a particular 0.0 location in Curse. How was that not a setup for those who live in and around the area to win? Remember this was during the bookmark era so not everyone had equal opportunity.
I believe that Silvero's comment in that thread sums up the problem in the specific nicely. Pretend you're unbiased all you want but until there is some accountability we don't have to belive you.
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Quintessential CEO
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Galen.
ISD AURORA
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.01.08 20:52:00 -
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We mostly dont preannounce events, simply because of the ammount of people that would show up. If you consider that we field on average a fleet of 10-15 people imagine how much fun it is for everyone involved in the event to know where they will be and when and then to jump in on them with the motherload of all fleets. Sure, if you like that.. perfect.
But it surely doesnt leave any place for a story unless all you want to tell is how a group of actors got utterly pwned. If you want to give the story some room to maneuver, some time to expand and to flourish you get a lot more out of it.
The events we do with factions include patrols, scouting, simple RP in local with role playing characters as well as asking players that our characters have gotten to know as trustworthy to help them in some tasks. These tasks are sometimes preannounced to those that have proven to be not only trustworthy but also interested in the story more than the loot. If all you want is loot you can always go chain some NPCs.
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Galen.
ISD AURORA
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.01.08 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: Edheler
Ok, so you had a "competition" for a mothership which would cost approximately 5 billion ISK with delivery to a particular 0.0 location in Curse. How was that not a setup for those who live in and around the area to win? Remember this was during the bookmark era so not everyone had equal opportunity.
It was an Angel Cartel event. They live there.
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2007.01.08 20:55:00 -
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Originally by: Galen.
read here: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=405587
As you can see this event was not nearly as secret as you think. In fact, with it beeing announced publically i would even say it was the opposite.
The mothership was not just given away, it was a competition that required logistics and effort. Oh, and the competition was open for all.
Edit: changed URL to an actual link
That thread only adds more fuel to my argument. I wonder if M corp even had to go to empire to fill the order? Or did they perhaps already have everything they needed in system? My guess is that they had to move everything less than 1 jump since there was a large LV contingent already living in that constellation.
ISD: proving once again that its not what you know, but who you know.
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2007.01.08 21:00:00 -
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It'll be fun when I get some people into ISD.
ISD representative> What kind of stuff do you have around the hanger?
Shamis>I've got a ton of trit, and a bunch of warp disrupt probes and a huge stack of angel tags.
ISD>Cool, we're planning an event that might just require those things, and it might even be in your system, keep an eye on the events forum.
Shamis> thanks, I like free stuff.
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Eldo Davip
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.01.08 21:13:00 -
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Please refrain from flaming or you will find your posting privileges short lived.
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Galen.
ISD AURORA
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.01.08 21:15:00 -
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As i said above, if you have proof for your allegation please send it to me, for general feedback we have [email protected].
This thread has run its course.
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Posted - 2007.01.09 08:28:00 -
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Originally by: Edheler
Ok, so you had a "competition" for a mothership which would cost approximately 5 billion ISK with delivery to a particular 0.0 location in Curse. How was that not a setup for those who live in and around the area to win? Remember this was during the bookmark era so not everyone had equal opportunity.
I believe that Silvero's comment in that thread sums up the problem in the specific nicely. Pretend you're unbiased all you want but until there is some accountability we don't have to belive you.
Edheler
Quintessential CEO
Ok.
Let me make one thing absolutely clear here. ISD/Aurora has more accountability than you can even *think* about. Our activites are activly monitored by CCP on a weekly basis - Only 6 people in Aurora can spawn equipment and those people are audited by CCP to see what is being given out, to who is being given, where the events are being run. On top of this we liase with CCP's content department to ensure events are happening as they wish. Just because you don't *see* accountability, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
You can always tell who the people are who aren't suitable for ISD - because they fail to comphrehend why someone would give up spare time to assist others in a game. That's fine, however you only degrade yourself by making *unfounded* accusations. Please, if you have proof of any abuse - send it to either Galen/Myself, or if you don't trust us kieron, or an exploit petition - Take your pick.
Spread your little rumours all you want - The intelligent people amongst the forums realise that CCP would not allow cheating to take place - either from ISD or CCP staff.
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