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Husidh
The Polar Express
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Posted - 2015.11.18 18:15:53 -
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First off, I am aware the mach is a bad choice for Sansha space; however, this is about the only thing I can fly. This is my current fit; w/ Gal BS II (working on getting it to IV and then eventually V) I have a 52km falloff. The fit is way over tanked for anomalies and I can easily complete escalations (6/10 and 8/10) w/ company. My question for you guys is: is there any reason to go shield tanked against the sanshas? On the one hand, I would have seven lows, but since I'd have fewer mids for tracking computers, it probably would have worse application. So in summary: Shield or Armor for a mach in Sansha null?
[Machariel, New Setup 1] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Core X-Type Armor EM Hardener Core X-Type Armor Thermic Hardener Core X-Type Large Armor Repairer
Imperial Navy Cap Recharger Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Gist X-Type 500MN Microwarpdrive
800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, EMP L 800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, EMP L 800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, EMP L 800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, EMP L 800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, EMP L 800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, EMP L 800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Cannon I, EMP L Imperial Navy Large EMP Smartbomb
Large Capacitor Control Circuit II Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
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Jonas Kanjus
Side Busters
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Posted - 2015.11.20 09:14:35 -
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This is an extreme typical layout for a PvE Mach:
[Machariel, New Setup 1] Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer Damage Control II
Pith X-Type X-Large Shield Booster Pith X-Type EM Ward Field Pith X-Type Thermic Dissipation Field Pithum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field Pithum A-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field
800mm Repeating Cannon II, Barrage L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Barrage L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Barrage L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Barrage L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Barrage L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Barrage L 800mm Repeating Cannon II, Barrage L [empty high slot]
Large Core Defense Operational Solidifier II Large Core Defense Operational Solidifier II Large Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I
Ogre II x4
Based on all Level 5 skills, this setup sees over 1000 DPS, has a fall-off range of 85KM and all shield resists are above 85%. Shield booster is boosting 924 HP every 2.56 seconds. The Mach is a native shield boat as is.
My start date to EVE Online:
6/25/2005 8:24:57 AM UTC
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Amanda Chan
Tyrant's Short Bus Syndicate
59
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Posted - 2015.11.20 14:53:16 -
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Rule of thumb when I fit a ship for PvE is. 1) Can I shoehorn it into a shield tank? Shield tank leaves lows open for damage mods 2) Does shoehorning the shield tank take it out of my price range.
Which leads me to lol @ fit with 2x pith a invuls. If your fighting Sansha specific rats then just fit EM/Therm hardeners. Omni tank for PvE ships should just be reserved for lazy mission running where the resist profile needed can change or Epic Arc/Incursions where omni damage is applied.
If your ratting anoms, your facing a known enemy so omni tank is not needed. Otherwise your just making yourself a hilarious loot pinata. |
Ultim8Evil
30plus Fidelas Constans
287
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Posted - 2015.11.20 15:01:35 -
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your =/= you're
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The Bigpuns
Touring New Eden Haven.
14
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Posted - 2015.11.20 18:34:04 -
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Ultim8Evil wrote:your =/= you're
Best contribution. Tell us some more grammars. |
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
649
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Posted - 2015.11.21 11:04:05 -
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[Macha]
Damage Control II Gyrostabilizer II x3 Tracking Enhancer II x2 Signal Amplifier II
500MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive Dread Guristas EM Ward Field Dread Guristas Adaptive Invulnerability Field X-Large Ancillary Shield Booster Tracking Computer II
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma L x7 [Empty High slot]
Large Projectile Metastasis Adjuster II Large Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer II Large Ancillary Current Router I |
Darling Hassasin
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.11.21 14:30:58 -
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The offered set ups are all worse than the OP's for the specific use...
-Omni shield tank for Sansha ratting - 1400s Macha when trying for best tick - Loki suggestion with half the dps (or less maybee?)
... are all ridiculous and loltastic.
One good suggestion in this thread to OP was to ditch the SB, you dont need the cap use you dont need it killing your own drones, just no.
another semi interesting idea is to go for a light shield tank (not the one with the two pith-a invulns LOLZ) with a couple of trak comps so as to free lows for 4 gyro 2 ddas if you like maximizing dps (and isk) at the expense of afk-ness...
njoy....
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elitatwo
Eve Minions The-Company
909
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Posted - 2015.11.21 20:10:12 -
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Maybe it's just me but that's just wrong..
How about a True Sansha ship for ratting sanshas?
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We will teach you everything you need and want to know.
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Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
649
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Posted - 2015.11.21 21:42:11 -
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Darling Hassasin wrote:The offered set ups are all worse than the OP's for the specific use...
-Omni shield tank for Sansha ratting - 1400s Macha when trying for best tick - Loki suggestion with half the dps (or less maybee?)
... are all ridiculous and loltastic.
One good suggestion in this thread to OP was to ditch the SB, you dont need the cap use you dont need it killing your own drones, just no.
another semi interesting idea is to go for a light shield tank (not the one with the two pith-a invulns LOLZ) with a couple of trak comps so as to free lows for 4 gyro 2 ddas if you like maximizing dps (and isk) at the expense of afk-ness...
njoy....
Have you ever did fly Machariel? |
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
649
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Posted - 2015.11.21 21:44:00 -
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elitatwo wrote:Maybe it's just me but that's just wrong..
How about a True Sansha ship for ratting sanshas?
Pretty much true, caude NM is fine to pop Sansha ships easily and tank yhem with ease. |
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Husidh
The Polar Express
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Posted - 2015.11.22 03:22:25 -
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Darling Hassasin wrote:
One good suggestion in this thread to OP was to ditch the SB, you dont need the cap use you dont need it killing your own drones, just no.
The SB doesn't run permanently; I am never AFK. The nightmare is actually the ship I am ainimg for, but it would take me 2-3 months to be as competent in it as I am in the mach at my skillset. So it seems to me the takeaway is keep doing what you're doing and train for the NM? |
elitatwo
Eve Minions The-Company
910
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Posted - 2015.11.22 07:44:15 -
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Tiddle Jr wrote:elitatwo wrote:Maybe it's just me but that's just wrong..
How about a True Sansha ship for ratting sanshas? Pretty much true, caude NM is fine to pop Sansha ships easily and tank yhem with ease.
I wouldn't go that far, the Orga- errm Phantasm does the job as well.
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We will teach you everything you need and want to know.
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Darling Hassasin
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.11.25 07:14:51 -
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Tiddle Jr wrote:Darling Hassasin wrote:The offered set ups are all worse than the OP's for the specific use...
-Omni shield tank for Sansha ratting - 1400s Macha when trying for best tick - Loki suggestion with half the dps (or less maybee?)
... are all ridiculous and loltastic.
One good suggestion in this thread to OP was to ditch the SB, you dont need the cap use you dont need it killing your own drones, just no.
another semi interesting idea is to go for a light shield tank (not the one with the two pith-a invulns LOLZ) with a couple of trak comps so as to free lows for 4 gyro 2 ddas if you like maximizing dps (and isk) at the expense of afk-ness...
njoy....
Have you ever did fly Machariel?
I have flown pretty much everything in this game from shuttle to Supercaps with the exception of ORE and freighters.
Machariel specific: Roam Machs in 2005, Nano machs in 2006-7, mission Machs evey now and again, solo XL anc Mach briefly, 1400 alpha Machs in fleet a couple of times and that about it... havent used it all that much in all fairness... |
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