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Calypso Warsmith
Strata Dynamics
Power Absolute Inc.
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Posted - 2015.11.25 03:00:02 -
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Would you keep playing EvE if CCP some how lost all your player data?
Like a full loss of everything no backups at all, every one has to start from a newly created player?
Would you? Or would you move on? |
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
6466
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Posted - 2015.11.25 03:09:16 -
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Sure. Not like I fly around outside certain times anyways.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Eli Depran
Deep Space Conquest
5
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Posted - 2015.11.25 03:09:40 -
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It won't happen, but personally I like the idea. All accounts got deleted in some freak accident and everyone had to start from the beginning with nothing. Not just in EVE but every online game. Like Y2K of online gaming :) |
Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
923
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Posted - 2015.11.25 03:10:18 -
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If they would lose my data, yes I would start over and continue playing.
If they would lose everyone's data the game would not survive.
Luckily for us, this question is entirely hypothetical. 
Here I used to have a sig of our old Camper in space. Now it is disregarded as being the wrong format.
Looking out the window I see one thing: Nothing wrong with the format of our Camper! Silly CCP......
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Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
755
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Posted - 2015.11.25 03:11:47 -
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I wouldnt. Markus Reese is a long developed character with which the history and time earned development is a very retaining feature. I doubt I could enjoy eve even remotely as much.
To quote Lfod Shi
The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
52633
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Posted - 2015.11.25 03:19:50 -
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Markus Reese wrote:I wouldnt. Markus Reese is a long developed character with which the history and time earned development is a very retaining feature. I doubt I could enjoy eve even remotely as much.
Agreed.
I wouldn't spend another +7 years just to get back up to where my character is now.
DMC
'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
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Avvy
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
231
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Posted - 2015.11.25 03:31:11 -
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Definitely not, but in my case it maybe irrelevant anyway. |
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
663
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Posted - 2015.11.25 03:49:44 -
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I would. But, to me, that's like asking, "If you had a way to reverse time and go back to being a kid, would you?" Who the hell wouldn't, especially knowing what you know now. Kind of a loaded question, just not in a bad way. Something else, too, is that not one time in the nearly 6 years I've been playing this game have I had an ultimate end-game goal. The fun part's been playing the game, so not much would change for me I think. Sure, it might be a little rough at first isk-wise, but I made it this far once so no reason to suspect I couldn't do it again in another 6 years. Hell, might even make it back to where I'm at now sooner.
"Tomahawks?"
"----in' A, right?"
"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."
"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
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Iyokus Patrouette
Sudden Buggery
597
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Posted - 2015.11.25 04:01:47 -
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a very similar thought crossed my mind this morning 'what if eve had a hard reset' I came to the conclusion that i would try to start over and play from the beginning, but i think waiting all over to fly some of my favourite ships might end up killing me off in the end.
Though that brief window of actually equal footing would be damned interesting.
---- Advocate for the initiation of purple coloured wormholes----
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Leonardo Adami
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
60
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Posted - 2015.11.25 04:12:12 -
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Of course I would. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
40893
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Posted - 2015.11.25 04:28:02 -
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I'd probably take some time away initially, but I'd be back suckling the teet eventually.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Chainsaw Plankton
Signal Cartel
EvE-Scout Enclave
2089
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Posted - 2015.11.25 04:34:25 -
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Probably not. On one hand it would be interesting to see, but a lot of it seems like it would just be annoying.
@ChainsawPlankto
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Eternus8lux8lucis
Primus Inc.
LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
537
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Posted - 2015.11.25 04:52:45 -
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After 12 years theres no way Id do it. Having to wait for content again? Yeah no. Equal footing? Yeah no. Everyone with experience still has it over anyone else, everyone with friends and organizational chains has that still over everyone else. Its not the idea of whoring stuff or isk again, its the raw wait times for the skills to do stuff thatd drive me batty. Having gone through it enough yeah no thatd be worse than watching grass grow and everytime u go to sleep someone would cut it on you.
The first time you do it your not waiting for something you know of. Every other time you now know exactly what your waiting for, the pleasure and joy of the unknown is gone from it. Its like waiting for Christmas or a Bday when you know everything your getting and its the same as it was every other year for a decade or more. Yeah its not fun at all.
Imam: Have you heard anything I've said?
Richard B. Riddick: You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?
Imam: That's right.
Richard B. Riddick: Had to end sometime.
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Chainsaw Plankton
Signal Cartel
EvE-Scout Enclave
2090
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Posted - 2015.11.25 05:59:22 -
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Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:After 12 years theres no way Id do it. Having to wait for content again? Yeah no. Equal footing? Yeah no. Everyone with experience still has it over anyone else, everyone with friends and organizational chains has that still over everyone else. Its not the idea of whoring stuff or isk again, its the raw wait times for the skills to do stuff thatd drive me batty. Having gone through it enough yeah no thatd be worse than watching grass grow and everytime u go to sleep someone would cut it on you.
The first time you do it your not waiting for something you know of. Every other time you now know exactly what your waiting for, the pleasure and joy of the unknown is gone from it. Its like waiting for Christmas or a Bday when you know everything your getting and its the same as it was every other year for a decade or more. Yeah its not fun at all.
Very well put, it is exactly what I meant by "annoying" I respect being a newb and progressing through content while you train. However waiting to do things you've already done doesn't really make for interesting game play imo.
that said the race to collect the blue prints, set up moon mining ops, farm faction/deadspace gear would be insane to watch, but the other question is who would be around to go on it?
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Feledain
Elmsfeuer
65
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Posted - 2015.11.25 06:17:45 -
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I would at least play in the new beginning. If nothing else as to see the chaos in the starting systems with the whole eve population in them trying to make the tutorial because you get some good stuff fast.
And the rebuilding of the industrial infrastructure. SOOO much profit!
At least i would have something usefull to put in the skill queue.
But the more important question ist: What would you do if CCP sayed after a month or two "Hey guys found a copy of the database under the couch, everything back to normal." |
Lara Sunji
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.11.25 06:45:33 -
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Probably not. If everybody lost their skills, oh yeah. That would be fun. |
Avanda Redblade
THR3SHOLD
15
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Posted - 2015.11.25 06:49:47 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:I wouldn't spend another +7 years just to get back up to where my character is now. So you move on then. New players would enjoy their first +7 years like you did.
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Sibyyl
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Squids
26262
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Posted - 2015.11.25 06:59:13 -
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Any sandbox that still has sand can be used to make (and destroy) castles.
Data isn't what let's you have fun. It's how you choose to do things and the people you know.
Why SP Trading is bad for EVE: Part 1 - Part 2
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Eternus8lux8lucis
Primus Inc.
LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
539
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Posted - 2015.11.25 07:01:51 -
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Avanda Redblade wrote:DeMichael Crimson wrote:I wouldn't spend another +7 years just to get back up to where my character is now. So you move on then. New players would enjoy their first +7 years like you did.
And all that leadership, content, knowledge and ability would also be gone. Noobs think itd be glorious if the old guard would be gone, just like we wish to be in control... of our lives, our jobs, etc, yet to anyone thats been in that circumstance when those you realize you depended on for ideas, stuff, knowledge, advice, etc disappear your lost and you realize just how tough it was without them in your life. Same thing in game. Eve is as much the same as RL in that regard as any game Ive had the opportunity of playing. You think youll be the be all and end all and you realize how lonely and boring it really is.
Imam: Have you heard anything I've said?
Richard B. Riddick: You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?
Imam: That's right.
Richard B. Riddick: Had to end sometime.
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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
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Posted - 2015.11.25 09:41:35 -
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meh, not big of a deal. i like flying frigs, destroyers and cruisers anyway. :)
Just Add Water
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Memphis Baas
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Posted - 2015.11.25 11:13:18 -
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They've posted screenshots and dev blogs of what their server hardware looks like, AND a summary of the work done to recover from the recent hard disk failure. Given the types of hardware and the level of tech support involved, it's pretty much impossible for CCP to lose the database with no backups.
So, to answer your question, if they do lose the database as you imagine, no I wouldn't play again, because:
- extreme incompetence on their part
- no guarantee that they won't lose the new database again
You're very much insulting CCP by presenting this scenario as a possibility.
Now, if you're asking about a hard reset on purpose, or EVE II, or a new server, I probably would, based on the merits of the new game (if EVE II) or the merits of having a new server. |
Trudeaux Margaret
Imperial Guardians
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
184
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Posted - 2015.11.25 11:32:43 -
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If it happened to everybody all at once, then oh yes. That would be interesting.
Edit: I don't have nearly the time invested in the game as others do, though, so that definitely makes a difference.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
12861
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Posted - 2015.11.25 11:59:13 -
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Memphis Baas wrote:They've posted screenshots and dev blogs of what their server hardware looks like, AND a summary of the work done to recover from the recent hard disk failure. Given the types of hardware and the level of tech support involved, it's pretty much impossible for CCP to lose the database with no backups.
So, to answer your question, if they do lose the database as you imagine, no I wouldn't play again, because:
- extreme incompetence on their part
- no guarantee that they won't lose the new database again
You're very much insulting CCP by presenting this scenario as a possibility.
Now, if you're asking about a hard reset on purpose, or EVE II, or a new server, I probably would, based on the merits of the new game (if EVE II) or the merits of having a new server.
exactly this.
Better the Devil you know.
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Beta Maoye
83
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Posted - 2015.11.25 12:08:43 -
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It would only happen when disastrous events hit both London data center and Iceland headquarter at the same time and destroy all hardware in both sides completely. I can only imagine an asteroid the size of Texas hit Earth will cause catastrophic lost over such wide geographical region. If that really happens, the least I care about would be whether I can play an online game or not. |
Wen Jaibao
Soul Ripper Consortium
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Posted - 2015.11.25 12:39:33 -
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A new server with zero existing assets and everyone starting at 500k sp or whatever the baseline is right now would be amazing imo. |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
9242
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Posted - 2015.11.25 12:42:37 -
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OP, I like how you said this as if it was a far-off possibility...
...it's just a matter of time
BOOT.INI - NEVAR FORGET
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
Bumble's Space Log
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Celise Katelo
State War Academy
Caldari State
161
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Posted - 2015.11.25 16:47:40 -
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Sending us into the Iron age (stone age ), well perhaps not that far back... but people would sure act rather odd without technology that we have invented in the last 100years.
"My little box of tricks should be about somewhere, but where did i put it...!!!." , Fudges about in my attic for my:
E-bomb (electromagnetic bomb)
EMP (electromagnetic pulse)
Nanites
Solar Flare's (my snow globe has many Solar Flare's)
Messing about with Loop quantum gravity (LQG)
Nut Spread
Cherry Coke
AFK Hamsters
EVEBoard ...Just over 30million skill points, each skill was chosen for a reason. I closed my eyes & clicked another skill to train... "BINGO...!!!" ... "This time i got something usefull"
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Zimmer Jones
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
404
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Posted - 2015.11.25 17:11:35 -
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Lara Sunji wrote:Probably not. If everybody lost their skills, oh yeah. That would be fun.
Level the playing field? Yeah id keep playing.
The cake is not a lie. Unfortunately, the fork is a parallel construction.
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Memphis Baas
755
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Posted - 2015.11.25 18:54:40 -
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So, to continue the discussion, assume for a second that the few answers in this thread are proportionally representative of the entire player base. A few people have said they'd continue playing, others have said they would not.
Thus, if this is representative of what the playerbase would actually do, then resetting the servers to 0 would result in the loss of a significant chunk of players. At least 30%, judging by the tally of this thread so far. |
Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
937
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Posted - 2015.11.25 19:15:30 -
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Memphis Baas wrote:So, to continue the discussion, assume for a second that the few answers in this thread are proportionally representative of the entire player base. A few people have said they'd continue playing, others have said they would not.
Thus, if this is representative of what the playerbase would actually do, then resetting the servers to 0 would result in the loss of a significant chunk of players. At least 30%, judging by the tally of this thread so far. In reality a lot more people would quit.
In essence it would not only be based on the decision if a player would want to start from scratch with their characters, but also a matter of trust in CCP. Who would want to trust a company that manages to lose all player data from the past 12+ years? They've done it once at that time, what if it happens again? Is it worth the renewed time investment in light of that risk?
Luckily for us CCP does have backups. I am very, very glad the question this discussion is based upon is a hypothetical one. 
Here I used to have a sig of our old Camper in space. Now it is disregarded as being the wrong format.
Looking out the window I see one thing: Nothing wrong with the format of our Camper! Silly CCP......
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