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Jackal79
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Posted - 2007.01.10 18:33:00 -
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Smartbombs sound like an excellent way to combat enemy drones. Why don't I hear people taking about using smartbombs against drones much? Is a small bomb enough to kill small/medium drones (T1 and T2) or do I need something bigger to do it in a reasonable amount of time? What is the reason they aren't popular in PvP on ships that have an extra high slot?
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Perry
Amarr The X-Trading Company Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.10 18:52:00 -
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Smartbombs are amarr.
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Sokratesz
Guardians of Hell's Gate Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2007.01.10 18:55:00 -
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Edited by: Sokratesz on 10/01/2007 18:53:26 Fitting just one or two is a waste, you need to gear your entire ship towards it to be effective. Your only realistic choice is the Hyperion:
Highs: 4x EM 4x THE large named smartbombs.
Meds: 3x heavy electrochemical injector, scram, domination 100mn MWD
Lows: 2x istabs, 1x nano, DC-II, 2x cap power relay 2
1800m/s, 6500 cap recharging in 600seconds, 50k normalised hitpoints, and a hold for 21 800 charges.
I flew this setup for a few days killing loads of ceptors, destroyers, some cruisers including a lachesis and nearly a 2nd lach (he got out on hull), untill i got killed by a nanophoon + dictor + eos.
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Deathbarrage
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Posted - 2007.01.10 18:57:00 -
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actually a smartbomb is great for about any bs to mess a domi or curse's day
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Jackal79
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Posted - 2007.01.10 19:04:00 -
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Edited by: Jackal79 on 10/01/2007 19:01:37 Edited by: Jackal79 on 10/01/2007 19:00:44 That sounds crazy killing T2 cruisers with smartbombs, but I was only wanting to kill drones with 1 because I have 8 slots and 7 launchers - and I want to stay at range (between 20 and 10 Km so I'm out of blaster range) so no NOS. I run into gallante drone spamming ships alot.
Edit: Its a drake BTW
7x Limos Heavy Launchers 1x Small smartbomb
1x Warp Disruptor 1x 10MN MWD 1x Med Cap Injector 2x Invulunrability Field 1x T2 Medium Shield Booster
2x Nano 1x PDU 1x Ballistic control unit
Thats what I'm looking at. Would the small bomb be enough to handle T2 small or medium drones? Or even T1?
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Lakotnik
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Posted - 2007.01.10 22:23:00 -
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Small smartbomb is almost useless against drones. Even medium one is not very effective. If you re using just 1 smartbomb, you surely want a large one. Good enough to kill drones and some frigs that get too close. Nice way to kill pods as well. BTW - its not wise to use it in hisec and not very good in lowsec either - you ll hit a neutral and sents will ruin your day. Smile, tomorrow will be worse. |
Gryphin Rambaldi
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.01.10 22:40:00 -
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I have to agree, my drones with my skills would laugh at a small or medium smartbomb, you really need to have a large smartbomb going if that's your defense against drones.
As pointed out by the fact that you need 3 cap boosters going on the Hyperion with a full rack of bombs, they chew up cap like nobody's business. But, two cycles of the bombs (~8 seconds total time) will take out pretty much any frigate sized ship, and another cycle or two will take out alot of cruisers.
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Sokratesz
Guardians of Hell's Gate Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2007.01.11 07:10:00 -
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Edited by: Sokratesz on 11/01/2007 07:07:52
Originally by: Gryphin Rambaldi
As pointed out by the fact that you need 3 cap boosters going on the Hyperion with a full rack of bombs, they chew up cap like nobody's business. But, two cycles of the bombs (~8 seconds total time) will take out pretty much any frigate sized ship, and another cycle or two will take out alot of cruisers.
The lachesis (tinfoil) took me 3 cycles, a vexor (which was tanked) took me almost 8. Especially when killing small things (indeed, raptors and taranis = one volley pop ) is to cycle the bombs manually so not to waste too much cap.
It's extremely entertaining to fly around with such a setup because any light tackler will just die...however i had bad luck once..the sabre got close, took one volley, bounced away from me and orbitted at ~ 5000 + 1 meters, then the phoon and eos jumped in I guess i was a little too speed-focused - may have to drop one injector for a webber and or sensorbooster when i try it again.
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Sadao
Minmatar Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.11 07:23:00 -
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Edited by: Sadao on 11/01/2007 07:20:46
Originally by: Jackal79 Edited by: Jackal79 on 10/01/2007 19:01:37 Edited by: Jackal79 on 10/01/2007 19:00:44 That sounds crazy killing T2 cruisers with smartbombs, but I was only wanting to kill drones with 1 because I have 8 slots and 7 launchers - and I want to stay at range (between 20 and 10 Km so I'm out of blaster range) so no NOS. I run into gallante drone spamming ships alot.
Edit: Its a drake BTW
7x Limos Heavy Launchers 1x Small smartbomb
1x Warp Disruptor 1x 10MN MWD 1x Med Cap Injector 2x Invulunrability Field 1x T2 Medium Shield Booster
2x Nano 1x PDU 1x Ballistic control unit
Thats what I'm looking at. Would the small bomb be enough to handle T2 small or medium drones? Or even T1?
I dont think small smartbomb is that worth the slot but who knows, it does pretty crappy damage.
My "NanoDrake":
-HI- 7x Heavy Missile Launcher II
-MED- 1x 10mn MWD II 1x J5 20km Scram 1x Medium Electrochemical Cap Booster 3x Phased Muon Sensor Disruptor
-LOW- 1x Ballistic Control II 2x Local Hull IStab 1x Local Hull Nano ---
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Pottsey
Gallente Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2007.01.11 07:45:00 -
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I had a battleship smartbomb setup I used for missions. It was a full row of PDS T2 in the low slots to give hitpoints and cap regen for the smartbombs. It works well and means you donĘt need more then 1 injector. I used the Mega for my project the teir 3 BS should be better. Passive shield tanking guide click here |
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Laboratus
Gallente BGG
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Posted - 2007.01.11 09:59:00 -
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Edited by: Laboratus on 11/01/2007 09:56:59 My favourite SB setup:
Geddon 2 Large SB of each type or drop 1 for a cloak 3 cap rechargers 5 slot tank, 3wcs.
Cargo: Mobile warp distruptors
Tactic Set up a bubble in a 0.0 pipe system. Warp to the other gate and back. Now you are in the warp in spot. Move a bit towards the edge of the bubble. Wait, and when you see ppl approach, make em go boom. Warping protects only from targeting, not area of effect weapons, so smaller than BC will be dead before they are out of warp. Oh, it's good to use a scout, so you know when it's time to bail out and avoid being jumped by something too big to handle. Oh, and since warp distrupt drones are drones, they go boom when activate SB, so nothing can really stop you from warping. If you decide to use a cloack, you can warp to SS and cloak to annoy any blobs that try to scan you down. ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats |
DarkElf
Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts
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Posted - 2007.01.11 10:01:00 -
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small SB might kill t1 light drones after quite some time but that's it i'm afraid. and they are so quick that they will probably just bring them back and re scoop and deploy again. personally i've tried them all but never used less than i large in actual combat
DE
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.11 10:44:00 -
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you need two medium ones or 1 large. And they can be usefful against missiles as well!!!! 2 medium smarts can cut some dps form missile ships.
If brute force doesn't solve your problem.. then you are not using enough!! |
FreeHansje
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.01.11 11:09:00 -
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Quote: actually a smartbomb is great for about any bs to mess a domi or curse's day
Why? Sentrydrones when range is long, NOS when range is short... ----- FreeHansje
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Laboratus
Gallente BGG
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Posted - 2007.01.11 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: FreeHansje
Quote: actually a smartbomb is great for about any bs to mess a domi or curse's day
Why? Sentrydrones when range is long, NOS when range is short...
Cause Domis do cruiser class damage with Heavy drones, and even less with Sentries...
So you can tank it for ever and blast it to bits with any turre BS... ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats |
DarkElf
Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts
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Posted - 2007.01.11 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: FreeHansje
Quote: actually a smartbomb is great for about any bs to mess a domi or curse's day
Why? Sentrydrones when range is long, NOS when range is short...
yeah cos there are so many curse's out there that use sentry drones
DE
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.11 14:08:00 -
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Sentri drones are nice.. standing stil for my tempest arties...
If brute force doesn't solve your problem.. then you are not using enough!! |
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