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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.13 02:38:00 -
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Solutions:
1) Don't mine in Gallente high-sec space you moron 2) Stop being complacent and playing under the assumption that CONCORD is there to protect you from the big mean gankers, they're not. 3) The guy locking you didn't miss the rock/ice/whatever, he's probably scanning you. That's the first sign of trouble.
By the way, -10 characters don't get popped by CONCORD until they get a GCC. The faction navies chase them around, and they're very different from CONCORD (you can tank/evade/pop them) |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1304
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Posted - 2011.12.13 02:55:00 -
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Vernn wrote:Andski wrote:Solutions:
1) Don't mine in Gallente high-sec space you moron 2) Stop being complacent and playing under the assumption that CONCORD is there to protect you from the big mean gankers, they're not. 3) The guy locking you didn't miss the rock/ice/whatever, he's probably scanning you. That's the first sign of trouble.
By the way, -10 characters don't get popped by CONCORD until they get a GCC. The faction navies chase them around, and they're very different from CONCORD (you can tank/evade/pop them) 1) I have a degree in electrical engineering. I hardly feel that calling me a moron is justified. But if it makes you feel like a big person, then I don't mind. 2) Fair enough. I'll leave the game then for another with some semblance of fairness built into it. 3) There were only two other people in the system with me at any given time. Neither ever target locked me. The ganker warped directly on top of me each time and killed me. This is another aspect of the situation I don't understand. How could he warp in right on top of me? 4) Security rating is meaningless then and should just removed from the game. Why have a security rating system when in essence it really doesn't affect anyone's "security" lol?
1) lol 2) There is nothing "unfair" about getting suicide ganked. If you expect to avoid all boat violence by residing in high-sec, it doesn't work that way. 3) He was either fleeted with an alt sitting close to you or he probed you down with an alt. 4) Security status isn't "meaningless." I'm -2.6 - I cannot enter systems with 0.9 security and above without getting chased around by faction navies. Suicide ganking with a bottomed out security status requires much more work than doing the same with positive/neutral sec. You can't really fly a ship around with impunity, and you usually need hardwirings and specialized fits if you're doing it in 0.7+ sec. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1304
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Posted - 2011.12.13 03:00:00 -
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Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:Both Tipia and Andski...
You failed at following.
It is un-fair. But life is not fair nor the EVE is. Thats how it is. You gonna get screwed and asking for fairness never worked in this game or in life.
I guess I worded it wrong, but yeah, crying about unfairness in EVE Online, a game centered in a hyper-capitalistic dog-eat-dog universe, is silly. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1304
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Posted - 2011.12.13 03:10:00 -
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Vernn wrote:Andski wrote:I guess I worded it wrong, but yeah, crying about unfairness in EVE Online, a game centered in a hyper-capitalistic dog-eat-dog universe, is silly. No, i'm not crying about general unfairness in all of eve. I am commenting on a very specific situation that defies logic. Follow me here. I get the fact that eve is not a carebear game. I do. I am not crying about being blown up. It happens. I am not complaining about the fact that people can suicide gank. If someone wrongs you bad enough you should be able to suicide gank, with a real consequence. My argument simply is that someone with a -10 rating should not be allowed to kill the same person over and over again in the same spot in high sec. Yes, I get it. The very nature of eve dictates that you're never truly safe anywhere, and I appreciate the heart pounding moments that can bring to the game. I am not against suicide ganking. I am against a player with a -10 security rating killing the same people in the same spot over and over again in high sec without any penalty other than losing a ship with almost no value. I think its a pretty narrow and reasonable complaint.
It's perfectly within the game mechanics, and, from what I'm seeing, the guy is not using an exploit.
My advice? Pod him. If you can't figure that out, I can't help you. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1304
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Posted - 2011.12.13 03:12:00 -
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Tippia wrote:If the person is stupid enough to sit in the same spot over and over again, making him the easiest target ever, why shouldn't someone be able to keep killing him there?
Bots. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1304
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Posted - 2011.12.13 03:14:00 -
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"High Security" doesn't mean "safe" in EVE. Accept that and we'll continue the discussion. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1321
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Posted - 2011.12.14 06:21:00 -
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y'all is dumb
enjoy getting smoked by ships worth less than a tenth the cost of yours scrubs lmao |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1324
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Posted - 2011.12.14 09:00:00 -
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Banroh wrote:Get alts make them concorded and keep police sitting on your belt. Should cut out the delay.
What they do / can do / are doing, its within game mechanics. If you dont like the mechanics, there is suggestions thread.
That is considered an exploit, just so you know, doubly so when you're recycling alts. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1327
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Posted - 2011.12.14 17:51:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Andski wrote:Banroh wrote:Get alts make them concorded and keep police sitting on your belt. Should cut out the delay.
What they do / can do / are doing, its within game mechanics. If you dont like the mechanics, there is suggestions thread. That is considered an exploit, just so you know, doubly so when you're recycling alts. While I approve of your methods, Pots and Kettles, man. Your interdiction guide recommends clearing the belts in the same manner the miners "clear" concord from elsewhere to be in the belt. So long as they don't recycle alts, seems to me like you just need to go alpha against a determined concord baiter.
We use our ganker characters to clear CONCORD, not alts. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1330
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Posted - 2011.12.14 23:51:00 -
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Thomas Abernathy wrote:Well to be perfectly honest, the few Goons that are ganking in highsec have logistic problems managing all those ice fields. If you go out and mine in an empty belt, it will take them a couple hours to get thngs setup, then they will finally attempt to kill ya....although a retriever is not a great target to begin with....Try again with a Mac, they'll get to you :)
We don't have logistical problems. We simply can't cover every single belt in the Interdiction Zone 23/7. |
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