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Scipio Artelius
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Posted - 2015.12.10 23:11:38 -
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Azure Feixing wrote:It seems wherever I go I get hate mail. People seem to think that miners and industrialists are lazy, and pathetic? Im sorry but without us EVE would not exist. We turn what eve gives us into the end products that other players need. We CONTRIBUTE TO THE ECONOMY?
You know who does not contribute to the economy? Station traders. Even as more miners appear, the prices products continue to rise, partially because the pathetic station traders sit there and jack prices up. To make a buck they take something that was 10,000 ISK and make it 11,000, than 13,000 than 25,000 than 75,000 than 100,000 etc etc, soon prices are crazy because station traders are just trying to make a quick buck.
You know who else does nothing to contribute to the economy? Gankers, and PVP players. The majority of them just plex their accounts to play. Plexing is the WORST thing to happen to the EVE economy. Instead of people having to work to convert what EVE gives us into resources, and eventually ISK, PVP players just show up with 1.2bil ISK that no one had to work for, which drives prices up!
Its just nuts. The amount of low-life scum that just leech off of the economy is crazy, and these scumbags still have the audacity to blame miners for rising prices, or hate on us? The only hate o see here is yours. That would be a miners perspective then?
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Posted - 2015.12.10 23:19:15 -
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Chris Kovach wrote: I have hard time deciding if the poster is a genuine lego bricks nerd or neckbeard... https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSbmk3pSKyKFAY90V21F9tlTIHENy-NTJZMl_a5UvjQl_Yp2pwfmHzG0MlaEg
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Scipio Artelius
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Posted - 2015.12.10 23:31:17 -
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Azure Feixing wrote:The stupidity of the PVP Is killing shuttles ok within your rules for acceptable pvp?
Just asking, looking at your killboard and all.
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Posted - 2015.12.10 23:38:18 -
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Azure Feixing wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Azure Feixing wrote:The stupidity of the PVP Is killing shuttles ok within your rules for pvp? Just saying. Looking at your killboard and all. The shuttles we killed we players in our WH. They were not active, and had logged off in space inside of a recently aquired POS. As we destroyed the ships left inside the shield, we ran into a few of these shuttle that we had no idea were alive. And did I not say that PVP is okay? As long as PVP players are going against one another. Like wars, invasions, etc. So killing logged off shuttles is ok, because clearly the players are going against you while logged off.
Killing you is not ok.
Got it.
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Posted - 2015.12.10 23:42:45 -
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Azure Feixing wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Azure Feixing wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Azure Feixing wrote:The stupidity of the PVP Is killing shuttles ok within your rules for pvp? Just saying. Looking at your killboard and all. The shuttles we killed we players in our WH. They were not active, and had logged off in space inside of a recently aquired POS. As we destroyed the ships left inside the shield, we ran into a few of these shuttle that we had no idea were alive. And did I not say that PVP is okay? As long as PVP players are going against one another. Like wars, invasions, etc. So killing logged off shuttles is ok, because clearly the players are going against you while logged off. Got it. Killing you is not ok. Got it. Can you read? I said we had NO idea the shuttle has pilots in them, and since we PURCHASED the WH they were given plenty of time to leave. Not to mention to completely different circumstances.
Yeah I can read.
Killing someone is ok if you don't know you are killing someone.
Ok. Got it this time.
Any more rules I should abide by to make sure I only do acceptable pvp?
Maybe you can detail them all?
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Posted - 2015.12.10 23:52:47 -
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Azure Feixing wrote:Pretty sure I covered this topic. Perhaps reading and ANALYZING the whole thread will help. Lol. Yeah ok.
So the rules so far:
1. Don't shoot industrialists 2. Dont shoot miners 3. Don't shoot other ships unless it's mutual
Disclaimer: It's ok to shoot someone's ship as long as you don't know someone else owns it It's ok to shoot someone's ship if you give them enough time to leave
All other pvp makes you scum and in any case PvPers don't contribute anything to the economy anyway. They just PLEX their accounts.
Ok. I think that summarises the thread so far.
This should be in a Wili somewhere.
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Posted - 2015.12.11 00:34:49 -
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Azure Feixing wrote:How about, by killing miners and haulers YOU are denying others the minerals. What do you think you in your battleship are gonna harvest the rocks, gas, ice, and moons? Not a chance. Without us there would be nothing. WE, the indy, are the only reason you have anything to gank us with, and the only reason you can PVP. Here's an alternative picture for you:
http://i.imgur.com/haNCwOB.png
The biggest group of pvpers in the game are classified by CCP as the 'professional' players and they do just as much mining and industrial activity as they do pvp.
If the self entitled "we miners are the driving force of the economy" people disappeared, then the same players that shoot you will also create more than they already do.
In realtity, the idea that there are industrialists and pvpers as two distinct groups is ridiculous. Lots of people in the game do lots of different things, both production and destruction focused.
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Posted - 2015.12.11 00:57:11 -
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Azure Feixing wrote:I specifically said that a GOOD WAY to eliminate other miners is through ganking, only when you are at war What's the acceptable way to kill a miner or industrialist that is in an NPC Corp then?
Wouldn't all miners and industrialists just stay in NPC Corps and be essentially immune from conflict if war is the only way?
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