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J'Poll
Perkone Caldari State
6077
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Posted - 2015.12.19 16:23:22 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:J'Poll wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Bumblefck wrote:You're a terrible troll, OP. At least HoleySheet provides some amusement value in See and Pee, rather than just trolling NCQ&A So bad a troll that her threads quickly pack full of legitimately useful and solid advice. To be fair she's no nevil . Nobody in EVE will ever beat that guy Hmmmm pretty sure I would , with a big stick obviously. Welcome back J'poll, glad to see you about again.
Thanks
And doubt you will.
I have tried and all he did was whine and complain from the safety of the station.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
13157
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Posted - 2015.12.19 16:28:12 -
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J'Poll wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:J'Poll wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Bumblefck wrote:You're a terrible troll, OP. At least HoleySheet provides some amusement value in See and Pee, rather than just trolling NCQ&A So bad a troll that her threads quickly pack full of legitimately useful and solid advice. To be fair she's no nevil . Nobody in EVE will ever beat that guy Hmmmm pretty sure I would , with a big stick obviously. Welcome back J'poll, glad to see you about again. Thanks And doubt you will. I have tried and all he did was whine and complain from the safety of the station. Oh so did i, nearly grabbed him too but alas (or rather thankfully) he hasn't logged in in some time.
Better the Devil you know.
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Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
695
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Posted - 2015.12.19 19:39:54 -
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There are lot's of good ideas posted so far and i have a few thoughts to add.
You are in a low sec corp that has 42 other members, if they will not help you then get the hell out and find a corp that will. EvE is hard on beginners, being in low sec makes it even harder and a being in a non-cooperative corp makes it even harder still.
ALWAYS keep at least one ship you can use to make ISK in high sec, and you are finding out why that is a really good idea.
I support and commend you on jumping into the low sec life with both feet, but beating your head against a wall you cannot break down makes no sense all you do is break yourself so here is my suggestion.
Leave low sec behind for a while and move to high sec.
Run missions and mine to rebuild your ISK reserves and perhaps some of your lost ships.
Use the ISK made in high sec to buy the minerals you need but cannot mine.
Remember the one from above, always keep a ship in high sec you can use to make ISK.
While you are doing all of these things use cheap ships to venture into low and practice how to watch local and your d-scan to keep yourself safer.
And I am going to end with the corporation you are in. If you have not asked them for assistance you should. If they will not give you assistance then drop corp, put them in your rear view camera and move on. Some corps accept new players but will do nothing to help them, other actively embrace new players and are willing to help them, you need to find one of these types of corps.
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Oraac Ensor
658
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Posted - 2015.12.19 20:27:29 -
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Donnachadh wrote:There are lot's of good ideas posted so far and i have a few thoughts to add.
You are in a low sec corp that has 42 other members, if they will not help you then get the hell out and find a corp that will. EvE is hard on beginners, being in low sec makes it even harder and a being in a non-cooperative corp makes it even harder still.
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And I am going to end with the corporation you are in. If you have not asked them for assistance you should. If they will not give you assistance then drop corp, put them in your rear view camera and move on. Some corps accept new players but will do nothing to help them, other actively embrace new players and are willing to help them, you need to find one of these types of corps.
Did it not occur to you to check the date she joined that corp? |
Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
1137
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Posted - 2015.12.20 01:22:58 -
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If you are too poor to buy in game plex for time, it obviously means you are paying $15 a month to play.
This means that you should buy a plex with $15 because you will never make that in the first two months.
Then buy implants and better ships to make more isk.
The more money you have the more you can make isk with.
"Entitlement" is a euphemism for "I hate the way you play and it makes me cry like a baby".
If you fantasize about being immoral it means you enjoy being immoral deep down.
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Luke Skywalking
SRS-BSNS
7
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Posted - 2015.12.20 02:12:33 -
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Captain Tardbar wrote:If you are too poor to buy in game plex for time, it obviously means you are paying $15 a month to play.
This means that you should buy a plex with $15 because you will never make that in the first two months.
Then buy implants and better ships to make more isk.
The more money you have the more you can make isk with.
I agree that with more isk on hand , more capital, its easier to reap profits of a more substantial amount.
However I do not agree on your statement that it is impossible to make 1.2 billion in the first two months.
Its how much effort you put into the initial stages when you start out in Eve, and I find it very rewarding to subscribe for monthly, and set a target to work towards. And I'm reaching my target to purchase my first Plex with Isk.
Having said the above, as I progress in the game, its not about the ISK race anymore. I enjoy doing stuff on a rotational basis, exploration, mining, missioning, salvaging, trying my hand on trading ,fleeting up with friends for some stupid stuff.. even gambling ;) .
As you play the game, the ISK will come. Enjoy. |
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
423
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Posted - 2015.12.20 03:51:42 -
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Someone can earn a plex in the first month, but not without working at it so hard that they turn EVE into a job. It will take probably 40 hours of work at least to earn that plex. Better to go out work a couple hours somewhere and then spend the other 38 hours playing eve with 1b isk.
I just want to get a plex as fast as i can so i dont have to worry about resubbing, 15 dollars is Cat litter and Food for my cat, or 2 Grams of Weed, i'd rather spend it on that then on this game--Rogue Mime
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Sarab Saeed
Stellar Preparation And Consolidation Enterprise
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Posted - 2015.12.20 12:35:37 -
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Bumblefck wrote:You're a terrible troll, OP. At least HoleySheet provides some amusement value in See and Pee, rather than just trolling NCQ&A
Thats not a nice comment as I was just looking for guidance and someone to tell me possibly what I was doing wrong, and I am certainly not here for peoples entertainment. I just want to play a fun game and I am struggling as I am trying to learn this all by myself, I don't actually know anyone else who plays it that I can ask 'noob' questions to.
I've never been called a Troll before so I'll take that as compliment as I have achieved something that I don't really know anything about :)
thank you everybody for all the other positive comments. I have learnt valuable lessons in the last week and now feel better equipped to venture out and about in the game.
S x
Only we are responsible for our own actions
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Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
696
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Posted - 2015.12.20 16:17:32 -
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Oraac Ensor wrote:[quote=Donnachadh]Did it not occur to you to check the date she joined that corp? Did it ever occur to you that I may have checked her and her corp out on EvE Who? If you are not aware of this little gem then here is a link to help you. http://evewho.com/
But in reality how long she has or has not been in the corp is not relevant, because the advice applies equally to a day one players and multi-year vets as well. And it applies to those who just joined a corp 5 minutes ago or have been a corp for years. This game is about friendships and helping each other and so I repeat myself.
If she has not asked corp mates for help them she needs to do that. Many players will not assist a new / newer player unless they are specifically asked to provide that help for fear that even offering that help may upset or offend them.
If she has asked and they will not help her then she needs to get the hell out and find a corp that WILL help her when she asks.
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Oraac Ensor
660
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Posted - 2015.12.20 18:25:49 -
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Donnachadh wrote:Did it ever occur to you that I may have checked her and her corp out on EvE Who?
No, because you obviously didn't.
Donnachadh wrote:But in reality how long she has or has not been in the corp is not relevant, because the advice applies equally to a day one players and multi-year vets as well. And it applies to those who just joined a corp 5 minutes ago or have been a corp for years. Of course it's relevant, how could it not be? The OP posted her question a week ago but only joined her corp yesterday. Do you imagine that her corp has a TARDIS? |
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Memphis Baas
824
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Posted - 2015.12.21 04:16:28 -
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It doesn't matter; this being the newbie Q/A, she can ask questions and we'll try to answer in good faith, cause those are the rules. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
13190
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Posted - 2015.12.21 04:16:31 -
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Oraac Ensor wrote:Donnachadh wrote:Did it ever occur to you that I may have checked her and her corp out on EvE Who?
No, because you obviously didn't. Donnachadh wrote:But in reality how long she has or has not been in the corp is not relevant, because the advice applies equally to a day one players and multi-year vets as well. And it applies to those who just joined a corp 5 minutes ago or have been a corp for years. Of course it's relevant, how could it not be? The OP posted her question a week ago but only joined her corp yesterday. Do you imagine that her corp has a TARDIS? rather missing the point though as i said earlier in the thread Quote:legitimate questions for others.
Better the Devil you know.
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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1029
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Posted - 2015.12.21 12:14:39 -
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Sarab Saeed wrote: I just want to play a fun game and I am struggling as I am trying to learn this all by myself, I don't actually know anyone else who plays it that I can ask 'noob' questions to.
Going it by yourself early on is not recommended. You need to make friends. I had an IRL friend help me when I was new and I admit that was nice. However you will have to make friends in this game or you will rage quit saying it's too hard. |
Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
28187
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Posted - 2015.12.21 12:29:00 -
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ergherhdfgh wrote:Sarab Saeed wrote: I just want to play a fun game and I am struggling as I am trying to learn this all by myself, I don't actually know anyone else who plays it that I can ask 'noob' questions to.
Going it by yourself early on is not recommended. You need to make friends. I had an IRL friend help me when I was new and I admit that was nice. However you will have to make friends in this game or you will rage quit saying it's too hard. Not recommended ... but waaaaay more fun if you're capable of finding information yourself. I guess that's the reason why it's not recommended ...
I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming...
THE GAME ! (:
You lost... :)
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
28187
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Posted - 2015.12.21 12:32:33 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Oh be nice bumble, no need to out her like that! Edit: and we aren't being trolled , we're being manipulated. Important distinction And in all fairness she is both new to it and asking legitimate questions for others. Very well spotted. I'll teach her some manners ingame eventually. ^_^
I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming...
THE GAME ! (:
You lost... :)
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Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
698
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Posted - 2015.12.21 15:05:56 -
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Oraac Ensor wrote:Donnachadh wrote:Did it ever occur to you that I may have checked her and her corp out on EvE Who?
No, because you obviously didn't. Donnachadh wrote:But in reality how long she has or has not been in the corp is not relevant, because the advice applies equally to a day one players and multi-year vets as well. And it applies to those who just joined a corp 5 minutes ago or have been a corp for years. Of course it's relevant, how could it not be? The OP posted her question a week ago but only joined her corp yesterday. Do you imagine that her corp has a TARDIS? I did look her up, and her corp. That I choose not to out that information is based on a personal belief in not giving away free info to those who are to lazy to go and find it for themselves.
And you are the one that is wrong, my advice has stood the test of time and it came to me from a multi-year vet when I first started the game in 2009 so let me try to re-wrap this so it might register on your brain cells.
If the corp you are in WILL NOT HELP you when you ask then get the hell out there are many out there that will. IF you have not asked then you MUST ASK or they may never help.
No matter what you think this advice applies equally to ALL players in the game no matter how new or old they are. And it applies to ALL players whether you have been in a corp for 5 minutes or 5 years.
Wondering how and why this is so hard for you to understand when the rest of them seem to come to terms with it easily? |
Oraac Ensor
663
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Posted - 2015.12.21 16:30:05 -
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Donnachadh wrote:Oraac Ensor wrote:Donnachadh wrote:Did it ever occur to you that I may have checked her and her corp out on EvE Who?
No, because you obviously didn't. Donnachadh wrote:But in reality how long she has or has not been in the corp is not relevant, because the advice applies equally to a day one players and multi-year vets as well. And it applies to those who just joined a corp 5 minutes ago or have been a corp for years. Of course it's relevant, how could it not be? The OP posted her question a week ago but only joined her corp yesterday. Do you imagine that her corp has a TARDIS? If the corp you are in WILL NOT HELP you when you ask then get the hell out there are many out there that will. IF you have not asked then you MUST ASK or they may never help. No matter what you think this advice applies equally to ALL players in the game no matter how new or old they are. And it applies to ALL players whether you have been in a corp for 5 minutes or 5 years. Wondering how and why this is so hard for you to understand when the rest of them seem to come to terms with it easily? SHE WASN'T IN A CORP when she asked the question - other than her starter NPC corp, which wouldn't be much help.
Why is that so difficult for you to understand?
And who exactly are "the rest of them"? |
Bastion Arzi
Angry Mustellid Decayed Orbit
315
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Posted - 2015.12.21 16:42:24 -
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how about you two duke it out in some frigs instead of derailing the convo...
sarab saeed - not sure if you still qualify for operation magic schoolbus but you should check it out. |
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