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Dracvlad
Tactically Challenged Tactical Supremacy
3195
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Posted - 2017.06.02 20:07:30 -
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Kaely Tanniss wrote:Never said it was wrong ..just stating a fact. I wish AG WOULD find a better way to fight gankers..and so do they (the gankers). After all..it's all about creating that content is it not?
Yes you did say it was wrong, and what about the bumper hiding behind CONCORD with his infinity point called bumping, talk about what you said:
Quote:So you're AG..which means PvP for you requires the assistance of Concord?
Actually CONCORD gets in my way when I shoot gankers, I have a very short period of time to get the DPS on them before CONCORD whores on the kill, while the bumper is protected by CONCORD. Different perspective, are you that up yourself that you cannot see that it is a mechanic, which Noragen pointed out to you above, you use a game mechanic in hisec to gank.
Lets bump someone for a couple of hours, great content that, makes me want to jump in a freighter, not...
The mechanic means it is a race, gankers to put the DPS on, the anti gankers to rep and take out as much DPS as they can before CONCORD appears, what the hell do you expect. Yet you make a typical Ganker brainless criticism with dogma and up yourself sneers, and I thought you were better than that, yeah and tell me again that my opinion does not matter, because you are above this person who CONCORD whored. Look at my killboard, while you are shooting noobs and shuttles in hisec I was shooting PL, currently top points scorer in our defensive campaign against PL by the way and my opinion does not matter.
Sorry Tora to butt into your thread but, it is the I am better than you AG because we don't use CONCORD when in fact they use CONCORD more than the AG do, couldn't resist a sneer.
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
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Kaely Tanniss
Commonwealth Mercenaries Vendetta Mercenary Group
944
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Posted - 2017.06.03 00:53:14 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Kaely Tanniss wrote:Never said it was wrong ..just stating a fact. I wish AG WOULD find a better way to fight gankers..and so do they (the gankers). After all..it's all about creating that content is it not? Yes you did say it was wrong, and what about the bumper hiding behind CONCORD with his infinity point called bumping, talk about what you said: Quote:So you're AG..which means PvP for you requires the assistance of Concord? Actually CONCORD gets in my way when I shoot gankers, I have a very short period of time to get the DPS on them before CONCORD whores on the kill, while the bumper is protected by CONCORD. Different perspective, are you that up yourself that you cannot see that it is a mechanic, which Noragen pointed out to you above, you use a game mechanic in hisec to gank. Lets bump someone for a couple of hours, great content that, makes me want to jump in a freighter, not... The mechanic means it is a race, gankers to put the DPS on, the anti gankers to rep and take out as much DPS as they can before CONCORD appears, what the hell do you expect. Yet you make a typical Ganker brainless criticism with dogma and up yourself sneers, and I thought you were better than that, yeah and tell me again that my opinion does not matter, because you are above this person who CONCORD whored. While you are shooting noobs and shuttles in hisec I was shooting PL, and my opinion does not matter from a person who shoots shuttles and noobs. Sorry Tora to butt into your thread but, it is the I am better than you AG because we don't use CONCORD when in fact they use CONCORD in reality more than the AG do, couldn't resist a sneer at their smear.
No Drac..I said it was a wussy maneuver. My stance on that does not change. Valid or not, it is PvP for cowards imo. No risk involved shooting a target that is already going to die. I never said it was wrong to do it.
If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Circle-Of-Two
4361
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Posted - 2017.06.03 04:14:54 -
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Kaely Tanniss wrote:Dracvlad wrote:Kaely Tanniss wrote:Never said it was wrong ..just stating a fact. I wish AG WOULD find a better way to fight gankers..and so do they (the gankers). After all..it's all about creating that content is it not? Yes you did say it was wrong, and what about the bumper hiding behind CONCORD with his infinity point called bumping, talk about what you said: Quote:So you're AG..which means PvP for you requires the assistance of Concord? Actually CONCORD gets in my way when I shoot gankers, I have a very short period of time to get the DPS on them before CONCORD whores on the kill, while the bumper is protected by CONCORD. Different perspective, are you that up yourself that you cannot see that it is a mechanic, which Noragen pointed out to you above, you use a game mechanic in hisec to gank. Lets bump someone for a couple of hours, great content that, makes me want to jump in a freighter, not... The mechanic means it is a race, gankers to put the DPS on, the anti gankers to rep and take out as much DPS as they can before CONCORD appears, what the hell do you expect. Yet you make a typical Ganker brainless criticism with dogma and up yourself sneers, and I thought you were better than that, yeah and tell me again that my opinion does not matter, because you are above this person who CONCORD whored. While you are shooting noobs and shuttles in hisec I was shooting PL, and my opinion does not matter from a person who shoots shuttles and noobs. Sorry Tora to butt into your thread but, it is the I am better than you AG because we don't use CONCORD when in fact they use CONCORD in reality more than the AG do, couldn't resist a sneer at their smear. No Drac..I said it was a wussy maneuver. My stance on that does not change. Valid or not, it is PvP for cowards imo. No risk involved shooting a target that is already going to die. I never said it was wrong to do it.I'm not sure where you get the idea I would use Concord..you'd be hard pressed to find a single kill on my KB that has concord in it. I am not a ganker..nor have I ever been. I do, however, support the creation of content that gankers provide. IDGAF who you've flown with. That means nothing to me as I've lived in null, low, c3, c5..so this "better than you because I'm a null bear" means d**k to me. The thing is, I will shoot anyone that's a wt..be it a 10 year old player or 10 day old player. I don't care what they're flying or whre they're flying it. If they flash, they get shot. Where did you ever get the idea I was a ganker? Wait so your saying shooting ships that would die anyway is wussy?. Thats Intresting
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Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop
ISD Max Trix favourite ISD
'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Circle-Of-Two
4361
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Posted - 2017.06.03 04:23:02 -
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For clarification I don't draw a distinction between jamming a Catalyst mid gank, Popping an overloaded Itty 5 on the Amarr undock, Killing a Jump Freighter flying through perimeter while at war, Hitting F1 as part of a 2k man blob in Nullsec, Leaving 1/10 of a cycle of ore left in a rock somebody else is already mining etc. It is all PvP and none of it is cowardly or any other random word to make you feel good about doing a different aspect while trying to degrade another's playstyle
Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment
Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta
Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop
ISD Max Trix favourite ISD
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Kaely Tanniss
Commonwealth Mercenaries Vendetta Mercenary Group
945
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Posted - 2017.06.03 09:28:17 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:For clarification I don't draw a distinction between jamming a Catalyst mid gank, Popping an overloaded Itty 5 on the Amarr undock, Killing a Jump Freighter flying through perimeter while at war, Hitting F1 as part of a 2k man blob in Nullsec, Leaving 1/10 of a cycle of ore left in a rock somebody else is already mining etc. It is all PvP and none of it is cowardly or any other random word to make you feel good about doing a different aspect while trying to degrade another's playstyle
You're misunderstanding my point. Most of the anti-gankers do what they do for some sense of accomplishment in doing somethibg pointless imo. For lack of a better way of putting it, it's like kicking a dead bear, planting your foot on it, and trying to say you defeated the monster. For some, they try to convince others, or themselves, that their actions are somehow altruistic when it is only for recognition. Sure, there's nothing wrong wirh the need for recognition..but admit it rather than try to say it's for any other reason. Maybe some do do it for reasons other than selfish needs..but most don't and only do it out of hate.
A lot of the self proclaimed "good guys" have been some of the most toxic players in my experience. I'm not saying Drac is one of those as I know he does other things besides shoot criminals already destined to die by concord and then proclaim himself a hero and that he's stopping gankers. 9 out of 10 times it's reactive, not proactive, and stops nothing.
I'm not saying they shouldn't play that way..I'm simply giving my opinion on it as I have dealt with those people who pride themselves on "stopping gankers" for a long time. I don't expect you to see it the same nor am I trying to convince you to.
Those that actually stop ganks add content as much as those who gank. More power to them. Those who do 1% dmg on a concord kill and proclaim themselves a winner..well.
It's a valid playstyle..like station gaming and suspect baiting..I just don't do them nor do I like them. That's just my opinion..and you know what they say about opinions..
If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
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Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
3863
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Posted - 2017.06.03 13:15:06 -
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Amazing that these clowns still get paid. Just shows how incompetent high-sec residents are.
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (a¦á_a¦â)
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Baaldor
Dixon Cox Butte Preservation Society Solyaris Chtonium
480
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Posted - 2017.06.03 13:17:31 -
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Lady Spank wrote:Amazing that these clowns still get paid. Just shows how incompetent high-sec residents are.
And I do not see a change any time soon. |
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
3863
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Posted - 2017.06.03 13:36:48 -
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Heh
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (a¦á_a¦â)
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
3878
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Posted - 2017.06.04 16:13:07 -
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Hire us today. Even lady Spank thinks we're worthy of her words of wisdom.
DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !
Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
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Natural CloneKiller
Commonwealth Mercenaries Vendetta Mercenary Group
444
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Posted - 2017.06.04 22:04:01 -
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We dropped in on marmite this evening to give them some red on their board. Usual stuff where they leave their wingman to die as soon as a vmg fleet enters local. At least the dude had a bling fit to make the effort worth while. Maybe next time in their home system they can stand and fight. If I was in marmite I would question the leadership and direction of the alliance.
Being with a group who have no spirit to fight is not where I would want to be. |
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
3878
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Posted - 2017.06.04 23:18:54 -
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Natural CloneKiller wrote:If I was in marmite I would question the leadership and direction of the alliance. yeh yeh... same old, same old story, for 7 years already. You'll end up just like everyone else who had the same speech. Dont you have protection programs to worry about. Seems you cant handle that very well. Seems you lost more then we did so far. We just dont jump corp to hide it. Now go back top your cave and have some more blue donuts. Once you have handled 5+ all mercs vs your alliance things, then come back to me about leadership. So far, you had 0 big boy.
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Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
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Yaosus
We Are So Troubled Everyone Runs Screaming Vendetta Mercenary Group
97
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Posted - 2017.06.05 09:06:35 -
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Hire Miss Tora TODAY! She'll love you long time.
Professional make-up advice G£ô Teddy bear holding maneuvers G£ô Pretty hats and head pins classes G£ô
Pinky promise she's the best :)
I like to move it move it
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
3880
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Posted - 2017.06.05 21:45:07 -
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Hire Marmites, if you want naughty stuff happening to your enemies.
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Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
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Saeger1737
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2114
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Posted - 2017.06.05 21:46:16 -
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Yaosus wrote:Hire Miss Tora TODAY! She'll love you long time. Professional make-up advice G£ô Teddy bear holding maneuvers G£ô Pretty hats and head pins classes G£ô Pinky promise she's the best :) Says the guy who won't accept duels....
MERC WITH A MOUTH, Send me DPS and my fleet will double it back! Special offer!
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
21507
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Posted - 2017.06.05 22:21:30 -
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Yaosus wrote:Hire Miss Tora TODAY! She'll love you long time. Professional make-up advice G£ô Teddy bear holding maneuvers G£ô Pretty hats and head pins classes G£ô Pinky promise she's the best :) Good but tora deserves better. Found the book mark for this one
Murderers of Negotiable Motivations
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
3883
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Posted - 2017.06.05 22:28:29 -
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Yeh, that was old skool classic smack talk.... love it. But on Yaosus's defence. His Tora Online was well made too. It made it to my bio.
DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !
Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
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Saeger1737
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2119
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Posted - 2017.06.06 00:46:17 -
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Kinda feels like this level of warfare is a shame and Khromius and Tora are just doing this.
MERC WITH A MOUTH, Send me DPS and my fleet will double it back! Special offer!
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Dom Arkaral
The Conference Elite CODE.
1513
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Posted - 2017.06.06 01:52:44 -
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RIP Bowie :(
Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.
Broadcast 4 Reps -- YOU ARE NOT ALONE, EVER
Instigator of the First ISD Thunderdome
CCL Loyalist
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Dracvlad
Tactically Challenged Tactical Supremacy
3201
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Posted - 2017.06.07 05:25:34 -
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Kaely I know you are not a ganker, you were the WT part of CODE. You seemed to have glossed over the fact that gankers use the protection of CONCORD for the bumpers. I have noticed a number of mercs getting on kills of criminals in hisec, I don't think they are wussies!, In any case most of my efforts were in logi wit the odd bit of bumping out of optimal in the mix too, I did try to remove some high DPS gankers a few times before CONCORD, I have one KM where I did almost all the damage on Globby, which CONCORD whored on, but like war deckers I shot criminals when passing, just having fun .
Many of those people are having fun, even if it is ineffective which I know it is. The serious guys in AG are either in logi, intercepting gankers on gates, ganking the bumpers or ECM'ing gankers and I get the impression with your comments on Jenn that you recognise them, which is good. Serious AG players let them have fun and then try to channel them into more effective game play, it is the way of Eve.
I should point out that my comment on shuttles and noobs in the pipes was to highlight the perception of many people towards hisec war deckers which is as misguided as your comment on AG, hisec mercs do more than that and are difficult to hunt too.
The use of CONCORD as a protection for the bumper is a valid criticism which is much worse than people shooting criminals in passing, I notice you avoided that one, can't say I blame you.
By the way I thought a nullbear was someone who just runs the sites in 0.0 and never helps in home defence and makes a token showing in CTA's, certainly cannot be applied to me.
Anyway I made my point so I will end this with:
Marrmite the hisec war deckers with staying power.
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
3900
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Posted - 2017.06.08 10:21:08 -
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Hire The Marmite Collective today! Our name starts with a tea !
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Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
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Natural CloneKiller
Commonwealth Mercenaries Vendetta Mercenary Group
459
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Posted - 2017.06.08 11:25:36 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Hire The Marmite Collective today! Our name starts with a tea ! \\ //
It might start with tea, but you flee when you see me!
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Murlocs IN EVE
Murl0c Invasion
3
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Posted - 2017.06.08 12:00:25 -
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Rwl rwl rwl rwl
Mwlmwlmwlmwlmwl
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
3902
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Posted - 2017.06.08 12:17:29 -
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Natural CloneKiller wrote:It might start with tea, but you flee when you see me! There is no me in a group of T3 with a gazillion reppie.
DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !
Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
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Natural CloneKiller
Commonwealth Mercenaries Vendetta Mercenary Group
460
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Posted - 2017.06.08 14:01:02 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Natural CloneKiller wrote:It might start with tea, but you flee when you see me! There is no me in a group of T3 with a gazillion reppie.
Just for records I was in kronos with flashing light trying to make you pull over sir. You got done for speeding |
Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
3906
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Posted - 2017.06.08 14:40:04 -
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Natural CloneKiller wrote:Tora Bushido wrote:Natural CloneKiller wrote:It might start with tea, but you flee when you see me! There is no me in a group of T3 with a gazillion reppie. Just for records I was in kronos with flashing light trying to make you pull over sir. You got done for speeding Ohh you're right. That makes it much better. lolz...
DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !
Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
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Yaosus
We Are So Troubled Everyone Runs Screaming Vendetta Mercenary Group
97
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Posted - 2017.06.09 10:48:44 -
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Back to the drawing board for Tora. Probably a new plan is needed. Fighting VMG and allies seems to be *FUN* so far. The killboards can tell the story.
But let's see what Tora was doing for the last couple of months...
I like to move it move it
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
3909
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Posted - 2017.06.09 11:06:03 -
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Back to the drawing board for Yuosas.
DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !
Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
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Yaosus
We Are So Troubled Everyone Runs Screaming Vendetta Mercenary Group
97
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Posted - 2017.06.09 11:24:09 -
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I am waiting for the day when you will actually be able to brag about Marmites killing VMG not posting random stuff the Lord handed to you :) Again, it speaks volumes about you. Petty, small, insignificant, narrow minded eve forum strategist.
On the other hand I would like to see you taking a fight instead of cramming double prop mods on your ships and still failing to get out. Or at least helping your marmites when the VMG reaper is on your porch decimating your followers. Very naive of them to still hold on to your skirt. The more time they spend around you and with you the more losses and humiliation they will suffer. I am glad for Onineko. He made the right move.
The Cavemen fought well. Suffered losses and repelled the attack. GF to them! Restecpa :)
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jack1974
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
279
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Posted - 2017.06.09 11:46:19 -
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Yaosus wrote: I am waiting for the day when you will actually be able to brag about Marmites killing VMG not posting random stuff the Lord handed to you :)
The Cavemen fought well. Suffered losses and repelled the attack. GF to them! Restecpa :)
Call me ye Lorde' and Savior then.
Real talk though, its easy for you to talk big when you have most of highsec blued. |
renwahh
Jovian Vengeance
202
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Posted - 2017.06.09 11:51:26 -
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jack1974 wrote:Yaosus wrote: I am waiting for the day when you will actually be able to brag about Marmites killing VMG not posting random stuff the Lord handed to you :)
The Cavemen fought well. Suffered losses and repelled the attack. GF to them! Restecpa :)
Call me ye Lorde' and Savior then. Real talk though, its easy for you to talk big when you have most of highsec blued.
The total worth lost on our side was 10 bil, theirs 22 bil, and we believe via sources that the contract cost Avarice 60 bill.
WTF 60bill for a contract. talk about rip off
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