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Neuromandis
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Posted - 2007.01.15 22:32:00 -
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I was comparing these two ships.
One is a rail platform, the other a missile platform. The rail platform has more grid. So far, so good. But then things got a bit out of hand.
The drake has 1 more med, 1 more high, and 2 more missile hardpoints than the ferox has... That is way more than the expected difference between a tier 1 and 2 ship - they are in way another league. The drake finishes as the ultimate heavy missile platform... what is the ferox then? A mediocre medium rail platform? 5 rails compared to 7 heavy missiles? With another valuable medslot to add insult to injury ?
Anyway, atm the ferox looks rather (too) sub-par. I believe it needs another med, and another gun hardpoint (not another high - we still want the drake to be somewhat "better" since it is the tier 2 bs and there is a notable price difference).
Which brings me to the other point...
.................High tier...............Second-higher tier Frigates.........Merlin (rails)..........Kestrel (missiles) Cruisers.........Moa (rails).............Caracal (missiles) HAC's............Eagle (rails)...........Cerberus(missiles) Battleships......Rokh (rails, thank god).Raven (missiles) Battlecruisers...Drake (missiles)........Ferox (rails)???
WTF?? ok no prob, but since there is obviously a pattern here, why leave ferox SO FAR BEHIND while all the other tiers have rail and missile platforms that are comparable in power. Why close off the battlecruiser- class to rail-using caldari?
Thanks for taking the time to read this
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Corwain
Gallente Infinite Innovations
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Posted - 2007.01.15 22:57:00 -
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FYI ALL the T2 BCs are leagues above their counterparts. For instance, despite getting a damage bonus the Brutix with a gank setup does less DPS than a blaster setup on the Myrmidon. Thing is the Myr can still tank in this configuration where the Brutix can't.
If you wanna fix the Drake I suggest making its passive shield tank a little less uber, and ramping its DPS up a bit.
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J Valkor
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Posted - 2007.01.15 23:39:00 -
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It is more of a problem that the Ferox, like the Moa, is more of a sniper then a DPSer. Just like the difference between an NH and the Vulture.
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Audri Fisher
Caldari The Keep THE R0CK
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Posted - 2007.01.15 23:46:00 -
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sniping is a role they fail miserably at. they just don't have the firepower to bother anyone. Cormarants are more of a long range threat to frigates than a moa or ferox.
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Benglada
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.01.15 23:48:00 -
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t2 battlecruisers totally overshadowed there lower tier'd companions, it needs a looking at TBH (IMO, ferox needs more hardpoints, brutix needs more PG, prophecy needs more PG, Cyclone need another mid?) ---------------------------
Originally by: Arkanor
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Benglada
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.01.15 23:48:00 -
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t2 battlecruisers totally overshadowed there lower tier'd companions, it needs a looking at TBH (IMO, ferox needs more hardpoints, brutix needs more PG, prophecy needs more PG, Cyclone need another mid?) ---------------------------
Originally by: Arkanor
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Draco Ronan
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Posted - 2007.01.16 00:42:00 -
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Yes its true. T2 BC are way better than their T1 BC counterparts. Probably why the T2 BC cost so much more...
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Byzan Zwyth
Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.16 00:55:00 -
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usaly in eve things only need to be a little better for them to cost a lot more, the T2 BC cost a lot more but Are ALOT better. they should prolly cost more than they do. ---------------------- Pointless forum slowing bandwidth hogging signature pic inc? |
Alhambra Rainwalker
Caldari Rosa Alba Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.16 01:22:00 -
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If tier 2 BC:s did cost much more there wouldn't be many reasons to use them because tier 1 BS are pretty close to their price already.
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2007.01.16 01:34:00 -
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Except the Rokh, Caldari Railboats in general suck.
Merlin needs 3rd turret. Moa/Eagle need 5th turret. Ferox/Vulture need 7 turrets (or Gallente CBC need to be nerfed and lose the 7 turret points + obscene dronebay).
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Binarii
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Posted - 2007.01.16 05:39:00 -
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I don't know why I ever bother training up rails as I have no plans of ever setting my foot in a BS. Now I would be happy if they could just fix the Ferox and make it a rail platform instead of a missile platform. One more gun and a bit more PG, is that so much to ask for? Well if it is, I'll take a T2 rail BC instead anytime.
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