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Nacos
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Posted - 2003.12.05 01:21:00 -
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If there is anyone out there selling Zyd and Mega for NON-RETARDED price, pls let me know.
I'm trying to make some Batleships I could sell for 85 mill. The price ppl think is fair. (But is not due to retarded zyd and mega price)
PLS post here if you wan't to sell zyd and mega at good price. _______________________
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PropanElgen
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Posted - 2003.12.05 06:50:00 -
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Sure, I'll sell 5k mega at 4096/unit, even tho I could get 3 times from from someone else...
NOT
All the angels and the puny men of god looked away... Frightened to death by the evil that was born on that day!
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Fausto
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Posted - 2003.12.05 11:34:00 -
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I think he means prices over 17k that we see now at the market. Some regions have mega for 20k and up only. If you have some to sell at 3x4096 call me and I'll buy everything you have ______
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Nacos
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Posted - 2003.12.05 22:05:00 -
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Is there realy nobody out there that wants to keep the Bs prices low?
Well, if you want it like that...
WTS: Megathron for 120 Mill (Very cheep considering the price of zyd and mega) _______________________
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Caldfyr Reynolds
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Posted - 2003.12.05 22:08:00 -
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meg and zyd prices are inversely proportional to the amount of meg and zyd to be had. Get more of it on the market and the prices will drop.
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Nacos
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Posted - 2003.12.05 23:49:00 -
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Well, as stated by a character I tryed to do busnes with when asked why he priced the zyd and mega so hig: "Because I can. There is a lot of stupid ppl out there who are ready to buy for even higher prices than mine"
So by buying more we would be pushing the prices higer.
ppl of the EvE univers, pls stop buying zyd and mega for these rediciluse prices. Or start buying the BS for the right value (110 Mill +). _______________________
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Kiser Soze
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Posted - 2003.12.06 00:57:00 -
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I'm going to play devil's advocate here and I know I'll probably get flamed for it but oh well. Mega and Zy by definition are rare minerals, even more so at the moment with the shortage of the higher ores. The price of these minerals reflects this. Everyone in eve would like to have a battle ship and get it at a low price but battleships aren't supposed to be nor should they be cheap either to build or to buy. I for one go out and find the minerals that I need to have in order to build the ships I want so if you don't like the price go out and do the legwork (or afterburner work in this case) and find it your self. If the price is rising so be it, you think people should take a lose so you can build your cheap battle ship to sell at a low cost to some one who will probably go out and get it destroyed with in a week?
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Nacos
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Posted - 2003.12.06 16:31:00 -
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This is weird, noone tryes to flame this or anything
Well, maby ppl are just realizeing the truth
Good times _______________________
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AlCapone
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Posted - 2003.12.07 11:26:00 -
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One big problem is that many corps are selling ships under production costs.
The best is Moa/Thorax, these both ships are very common and still between 5 and 6 mill isk.
For a cruiser you would need a minimum of 300-500k profit margin. Since u still have to pay for the BP,reseach and the Fab to produce it, also the time needed to sell it. A BS should have a 10% profit margin at least.
But this is nearly impossible with this prices atm. I don`t know why people are selling so many thinks under production costs, my corp does not and we still generate good money.
Also with the raise of Mega/Zydrine all prices will have to raise about 20-30% minimum NOW!
P.S. Megathron for 130mill is a fair price atm
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Beta
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Posted - 2003.12.12 07:08:00 -
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Edited by: Beta on 12/12/2003 07:08:31
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Khar'du
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Posted - 2003.12.12 12:09:00 -
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Read up one economics Nacos.
You produce for profit, another mines for profit.
easy
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Nacos
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Posted - 2003.12.12 17:29:00 -
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If only it was that easy. It is geting hard to produce anything that contains megacyte and sell it for proffit. There is a lot of "not that bright ppl" out there that don't understand that if the minerals are expencive, the things that are made out of em are also expencive.
If ppl wan't to buy cheep things, they have to sell minerals cheep. _______________________
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Gafton
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Posted - 2003.12.12 18:46:00 -
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as soze said, you want cheaper mega, go mine it yourself. You'll find out why the price is high.
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crice
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Posted - 2003.12.12 21:35:00 -
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Edited by: crice on 12/12/2003 21:35:57 All the Mega and Zydrine you want. AT MY PRICE: 20K per Mega 2,500 per Zydrine
What that is too much? GO mine it yourself then... Muhaaaa....
BTW: Battleships are too cheap anyhow. Supply and Demand, looks like the market is working just fine.
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Nacos
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Posted - 2003.12.12 22:36:00 -
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The problem is not the prices on zyd and mega. It's that there are too much "not taht bright ppl" in the game. Yeah. BS shuld be more expencive. But then ppl would just wine more. I'm just trying to make those "not so bright ppl" understand that it's just plane stupid to sell BS under mineral cost. _______________________
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crice
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Posted - 2003.12.12 23:02:00 -
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Quote: The problem is not the prices on zyd and mega. It's that there are too much "not taht bright ppl" in the game. Yeah. BS shuld be more expencive. But then ppl would just wine more. I'm just trying to make those "not so bright ppl" understand that it's just plane stupid to sell BS under mineral cost.
Simple: BS Builders/Suppliers have to purchase from the Mining corp if they are lucky, and pay mark up. The suppliers don't usually mine there own ore, if they are smart.
Therefore I can undercut anyone because my cost is 0 on the mins, because I mine them. The hauling is the biggest pain. But that is life. It is more fun than sitting in a friggin 0.5 mining Omber and Pyro.
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Nacos
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Posted - 2003.12.12 23:47:00 -
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Therefore I can undercut anyone because my cost is 0 on the mins, because I mine them. The hauling is the biggest pain. But that is life.
So, do you also work for free in RL? _______________________
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Dan Forever
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Posted - 2003.12.13 01:05:00 -
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The minerals are not 'free'
The way you work out profit from manufacturing ships instead of selling the minerals is to calculate how much money you would have made from selling the minerals and take that away from the price you got for the ship you made and sold 'for free'.
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Nacos
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Posted - 2003.12.13 06:21:00 -
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Ehh.
That's my point _______________________
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2003.12.13 07:48:00 -
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Quote: The minerals are not 'free'
The way you work out profit from manufacturing ships instead of selling the minerals is to calculate how much money you would have made from selling the minerals and take that away from the price you got for the ship you made and sold 'for free'.
If you mine the minerals yourself, you don't have to do that. Since they cost you nothing but time to obtain, you can decide for yourself what that time is worth, and price the ship accordingly. That might well mean that you sell the ship for less than the market price of the minerals, which is not only irrelevant, it might actually be a worthwhile undertaking if you can do it on a large enough scale, because you can choke off the demand for all the other corps and cut off their money supply.
Not everyone is in business for the sole purpose of gouging as much money out of the deal as possible. There are other objectives in life.
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