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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.12.22 22:53:46 -
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I'm cooking frozen chicken in boiling water. I figured that I could research the method online, but now am sitting here with a boiling pan and not finding any info online. I can find instructions for thawing it in cold water, or in a microwave, but nothing about in boiling water.
Can someone tell me how long it takes to thaw and cook a 2-3cm thick piece of chicken in boiling water at sea level?
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Khergit Deserters
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2015.12.23 01:59:43 -
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No, no, can't thaw it in boiling water. The outside will cook and the inside will still be frozen. That meat will do all kinds of nasty unappetizing things if you try to thaw it that way.
Two methods: -The quick and obvious: Microwave EM wave molecules excitement. Advantage: Fair and equitable distribution of energy, to even to the center of the cut. Advantage: Pretty quick. Disadvantage: Not perfect, the edges of the meat can EM cook, if you don't watch it. You have to manage and pulse your microwave, kind of like a prop mod. At some point, stop nuking it, take it out, and cover it. (In a pot with a lid, between two plates, whatever you have). Let it rest and convection distribute the heat through the unit if for a while.
-The slow but better way: Put the cut of meat (wrapped in the package) in a pot or bucket. Fill up the container with unheated tap water. Let it sit. when the water feels chilled, dump it and refill the container with cool water. Do that until the meat feels soft in the center.
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.12.23 02:28:45 -
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Khergit Deserters wrote:No, no, can't thaw it in boiling water mate. The meat will just encounter 100C temperatures on the outside and 0C temperatures at the next layer down. Nah, it just depends on the size of the meat and what quality you intend to get out of it.
I got my own answer: it was about 30-35 minutes. The meat was fine, quite enjoyable to eat. I wouldn't recommend anything above 3cm thick though, boiling for a half hour is stressful on the meat already, and the time cost goes up exponentially with meat thickness.
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Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
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Posted - 2015.12.23 06:39:46 -
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I would never do that to dead animal. You have to wait for it to unfreeze in cold water, and do not freeze it again, ever.
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
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Posted - 2015.12.23 07:14:22 -
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Come on people, didn't you get the memo on energy proficency?
The only sensible method to thaw frozen stuff is to do it inside the freezer, period. Alternatively can be done at room temperature. In both cases the thawing will be faster if the piece is placed on a metal sheet. An aluminum dish or pan is good enough, also any piece of copperware if you have it; the higher the thermal conductivity of the metal the faster is the thawing. Tinfoil doesn't works since it is a good thermal insulator.
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.12.23 11:54:49 -
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You don't.
If it's frozen, you have to let it warm up to room temperature first.
Heating up meat too fast when frozen will result in destruction of most cells ... ... which leads to bad quality.
Not sure why you want to do this ...
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.12.24 18:19:20 -
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I really hoped for a response here ... ... I only had good intentions .......
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.12.24 18:31:59 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Heating up meat too fast when frozen will result in destruction of most cells ... ... which leads to bad quality. The outside of the meat might heat up too fast but more than about 2mm past the surface and it's fine. Even the exterior doesn't really get hurt much by that rapid heating, what causes more damage to its quality is leaving it boiling for so long.
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
6781
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Posted - 2015.12.24 19:56:53 -
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Sweet lord please don't thaw meat with boiling water. Use room temp water that's circulating to get it to room temp and go from there. You damage the food and put yourself in danger for food borne illnesses otherwise.
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Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2015.12.24 20:16:45 -
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Hi Reaver, long time no see.
On a tangent story: I had a friend who cooked frozen sausages at high temperature. They turned out charred on the outside and raw in the centre. The whole group of his friends were sick from them.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2015.12.25 03:22:41 -
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posting in here before the inevitable "Help, how long to get over food poisoning" thread appears
Better the Devil you know.
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2015.12.25 04:29:16 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:posting in here before the inevitable "Help, how long to get over food poisoning" thread appears
Not if I have anything to say about it!
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
2826
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Posted - 2015.12.26 07:20:01 -
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:Sweet lord please don't thaw meat with boiling water. Use room temp water that's circulating to get it to room temp and go from there. You damage the food and put yourself in danger for food borne illnesses otherwise. There is no danger from heat-damaged food, only undercooked food. I won't make that mistake.
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Whitehound
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Posted - 2015.12.27 00:44:01 -
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You have come to the right place for help!
I recommend that you ask NASA for help. Their 70m antenna in Goldstone operates in the microwave spectrum near the perfect frequency for boiling water and it can deliver up to 400kW. I am sure they will listen. Who does not like chicken?!
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.12.27 02:04:40 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:Sweet lord please don't thaw meat with boiling water. Use room temp water that's circulating to get it to room temp and go from there. You damage the food and put yourself in danger for food borne illnesses otherwise. There is no danger from heat-damaged food, only undercooked food. I won't make that mistake. Says you, when others clearly disagree. Now you sound like you desperately want to avoid undercooking it.
Reaver... frozen food needs to warm up slowly ... ... else the cells break from the sudden state change of the water.
That's why it should just rest at room temperature ... ... to allow it to reach equilibrium.
Sheesh ...
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
2826
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Posted - 2015.12.27 02:42:29 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Says you, when others clearly disagree. Now you sound like you desperately want to avoid undercooking it.
Reaver... frozen food needs to warm up slowly ... ... else the cells break from the sudden state change of the water.
That's why it should just rest at room temperature ... ... to allow it to reach equilibrium.
Sheesh ... It's not just me, I've done my research and my facts are backed up by scientific study. These things are well known and are taught in cooking and food safety instruction courses. But I am not surprised most people don't listen to all of the details.
If what you say is true, then putting frozen french fries into oil over 150-¦C is very unsafe. But the truth is that food safety laws require that the fries enter the oil frozen--uncooked thawed fries which have been previously frozen must be discarded.
It is no different for meat. It may be possible to damage it by heating or thawing it faster, but the rate at which that would happen is far greater than anything you'll manage in the kitchen. The damage you see in your own experimentation is not from rapid heating but from overheating, and the lack of food safety is entirely from the undercooked food on the inside.
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ISD Decoy
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1526
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Posted - 2015.12.27 22:49:05 -
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Greatest. Thread. Ever.
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Khergit Deserters
Garoun Investment Bank
4308
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Posted - 2015.12.29 18:21:53 -
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ISD Decoy wrote:Greatest. Thread. Ever. It's been kind of slow around OOPE lately. I really hate to use a microwave on any kind of meat. But I'll make an exception for thawing chicken, if it has bones in it. To fully cook it, you have to get it hot all the way to the bone. Microwaving is good for uniformly heating all the way through, instead of from the inside out.
By the way, this military Active Denial System weapon will do the same thing.
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Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
1704
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Posted - 2015.12.29 22:14:46 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote: food safety laws require that the fries enter the oil frozen Yes. frozen chicken fries you can microwave and put into oven. Its nothing new.
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