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Warcyb Brucalus
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2015.12.27 15:55:02 -
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Reading through any Eve related forum or guide, you will quickly learn that Eve Online is a complex game. However, there are many myths about the game that are spread by veteran players of the game. Below are 5 of the biggest.
You need to lose ships to learn to PVP. This may be true if you are a lone solo player just starting the game and go off hunting on your own. However, if you can find a corp full of veteran pvpers that are willing to teach you the ropes, you will be much better off. You should not have to lose many ships, but should get plenty of kills. If you have fun losing ships, have at it. We prefer to do the killing.
Your fleet has to be n+1 the enemy fleet to win. A good FC that knows their fleet comp can dunk larger fleets. It takes knowledge of the ship capabilities in the engagement, use of force multipliers, and a strategy.
Bigger ships are better. After the Battle of B-R5RB many players joined Eve with dreams of flying Titans and Battleships in large engagements. What many vets already know is that flying the smaller ships in Eve can be a lot more fun. We routinely destroy Battleships in our small frigate gangs, and have a lot of fun doing it.
Ships are expensive so you need to be rich or join a corp with a ship replacement program. Another advantage of frigates is that they are inexpensive and easily replaced. You can spend your time in game grinding isk to pay for large ships, or you can spend your game time pvping in inexpensive ships. No ship replacement program needed. You can enjoy Eve pvp for many years on a budget in frigates.
You need millions of skill points to pvp. Eve Online is not WOW. You can enjoy the null-sec end game right now. Our corp has a fleet doctrine like any other corp. Would you believe it only takes 7 hours of training to fit into one of our basic fleet doctrine ships. Set your skill queue, go to sleep, wake up, and you can PvP in null-sec. If any of these myth resonate with you, join OUCH now. Open University of Celestial Hardship (OUCH) is a training corporation for new and experienced pilots. We have very experienced trainers to teach you how to survive and fight in null-sec. We have no 'cause' other than to teach you null-sec survival and PvP.
OUCH Community Spotlight Our motto: Kill more, Die less.
What does that mean for you? We don't guarantee your survival in null-sec, but we do guarantee to teach you how to minimize your losses.
It's brutal out there, but when you're a member of OUCH, you're with a group of friendly, relaxed people who understand your fears. We're there to help you learn how to survive in null-space. We will teach you everything you need to know.
What kind of training will you get? Student training focuses on a number of essential skills in a detailed yet practical manner:
Overview settings EVE client settings and interface Bookmarking Using the Directional Scanner Tackling Weaponry Fleet Ops Hunter/Prey
Once you graduate from OUCH you can apply to become a permanent member, or you're free to move on. If your application to become permanent is accepted, you will be transferred into our Operations department and have the opportunity to move into more advanced hulls and roles and receive advanced PVP training, including, for example, Interceptors, EWAR, Recons, Covert Ops, and support ships.
Student Training Schedule Our training sessions are usually held every week on Saturdays and Sundays at 19:00 EVE time, Wednesdays and Thursdays at 18:00, and various additional time and day offerings depending on demand. We promote these sessions with our forum, EVE mails and in-game calendar.
Are there any minimum requirements to join OUCH? No prerequisites are required to join OUCH. No minimum number of skill points, API checks, interviews, etc. We truly are an "open" training corporation. Our students have ranged from one day old trial accounts to players who were with Eve since Beta.
However, to make your OUCH experience meaningful, you must be willing to have or accept the following:
A desire to learn how to survive in null-sec and develop your PvP skills. You must do your homework and abide by our corporate policies and restrictions. After joining OUCH you'll find that in addition to attending Module training sessions, there's quite a bit of forum information you'll have to read and digest. You will not, and should not, be fighting from day one. Like when you learn boxing, it's the gym first and arena second.
When a student graduates and would like to become a permanent member of OUCH, he or she must apply to the Operations Department. You do not become a permanent member by simply graduating.
Be active on Teamspeak (for voice communications) when you're logged on.
Sign up to our forum and keep up to date with information and discussions.
OUCH is a null-sec survival and PvP training corp. You're expected to practice what you've learned, and if you're not practicing, then we hope that's because you've learned it so well you're teaching someone instead. Using Teamspeak will allow you to chat with other corp and alliance members, and participate in more training and PvP operations.
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Warcyb Brucalus
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2016.01.06 13:20:58 -
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Ask us questions in-game by joining our OUCH-UNI chat channel. |
Warcyb Brucalus
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2016.01.08 04:21:14 -
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The Open University of Celestial Hardship (OUCH) has more information. |
Warcyb Brucalus
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2016.01.10 04:41:58 -
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Just in case you missed it up top, CCP did a Community Spotlight on us. |
Warcyb Brucalus
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2016.01.11 03:05:07 -
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We are still recruiting. |
Warcyb Brucalus
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2016.01.12 16:01:55 -
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You can check out our kill board and see that we are active. |
Warcyb Brucalus
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2016.01.14 03:09:16 -
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We are still taking students. |
Warcyb Brucalus
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2016.01.15 15:18:25 -
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We just had some new students sign up. Join them in our classes that are coming up over the weekend. |
Warcyb Brucalus
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2016.01.19 03:33:03 -
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Thursday's class will be on bookmarking and scanning. |
Warcyb Brucalus
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2016.01.20 13:10:46 -
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Next classes will be this weekend. |
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Warcyb Brucalus
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2016.01.25 16:20:05 -
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We are still recruiting |
Warcyb Brucalus
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2016.01.27 13:16:17 -
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One new student signed up. We are still recruiting. |
Bens Otomeya
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.01.28 18:33:18 -
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Hey Guys,
I played eve for a few months a couple of years ago. I've re-subbed my account and can barely remember anything about the game. What better place to restart than a university?
Please can you invite me and direct me towards the stuff i need to download / read etc.
Many thanks,
Ben. |
Warcyb Brucalus
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2016.01.29 15:51:08 -
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You can apply in game. Our main high sec office is located in Berta. Then go to our website to get access to our student forums and create your student folder. Since you are a returning player, make sure you are in high sec when you apply to join the corp. |
Bens Otomeya
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.01.29 16:42:47 -
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ahhh, to late. I applied this morning before work still in null sec or low sec i think (Sendaya i think)
I'll try and figure out how i get myself out of null/low sec when i get home from work and apply again if i need to, tbh i'm a little terrified of undocking! I have already created a forum account. |
Jason Doombringer
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.01.29 17:43:49 -
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I think I'll give this a shot. Been playing since 2005. The last few years off and on due to work and kids. Most of my friends don't play anymore, corp is dead, and it sucks playing by yourself |
angelface
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
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Posted - 2016.02.03 16:33:26 -
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Do not join OUCH.
Please see this thread and you will understand.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6205511#post6205511
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Bren Genzan
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2016.02.04 04:19:28 -
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Open University of Celestial Hardship [0UCH] runs a Formal Training Program. We have a planned training schedule so that OUCH instructors and students can plan their lives around the training times.
OUCH instructors are volunteers, they are not compensated for their time. They train people because they want to pass along the things that they were taught. It's a Pay It Forward culture.
OUCH teaches simple things that anyone could learn from the internet, or videos, or just jumping in null sec and losing 50 frigates. But from our point of view, learning without teachers who are there to explain things to you that you don't understand is doing it the hard way.
OUCH has standards. Other corporations allow you to do what you want, when you want. You can be as aggressive or as lazy as you want to be. But OUCH has requirements. You must do A before you can do B, you must do B before you can do C.
People who are patient enough to work within our rules graduate the program. They get in Teamspeak and establish relationships with the instructors, who will work with a student to help them out if they actually have had a chance to get to know them.
But working with a student does not mean catering to their schedule. If you're late for class, you miss critical material that requires the instructor to go back, and get you up to speed before they can move on and finish the class. That's not fair to the instructor, or the other students.
angelface joined OUCH during a point in the training cycle where the first course wasn't happening for 2 weeks. When he could take the first module, he showed up 30 minutes late and expected the instructor to let him take the class. That's not how we work, we'll get you next time.
Obviously distressed, he left corp on his own, and sent me a personal mail, saying he left because we didn't use common sense and allow him to take the class, after all, he was only 30 mins late. If he still had been in corp and complained, I might have felt obligated to help him. But I spend a lot of time teaching people in my corp, I don't have time to spend on those outside of my corp.
So I sent him a note and told him I was sorry we didn't meet his expectations and wished him luck in Eve.
I'm sure Pandemic Horde is teaching him how to do it right. But honestly, angelface is not qualified to rate the OUCH training program.
In order to do that, you actually have to get in TS, meet the crew, maybe take a couple of classes.
Art of War Alliance -á-á Life on the Bubble
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angelface
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
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Posted - 2016.02.04 09:15:46 -
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Not rating any training course. Just posting my experience. They cancelled at first a training classes the first week (even if indicated in calendar), but the delirium happened when, a Saturday evening after 2 weeks, it was forbidden to me to attend the first lesson of 2 hours because late of 10 mins. So having to wait other 2 weeks. I still wonder to myself which secret for the domination of the universe were told. And they did not even answer politely, both by mail and in ts the overall tone was just rude. I have still the answer of their owner in my mailbox. Available to send to anyone is curious: contact me in game for that.
The sensation is that OUCH and these threads are just another marketing initiative of someone who has bought the corp and try to build a community without the necessary customer's attention. These changes of threads are another evidence. But apart from impression is clear that more you will stay in the corp waiting "lessons" more you will provide them money with corp taxes. So not surprised they will try to implement a rigid and byzantine pseudo bureaucratic system to justify all this. I am just warning you: man warned, half saved. Especially for the paying new guys. Regards
Bren Genzan wrote: ...
So I sent him a note and told him I was sorry we didn't meet his expectations and wished him luck in Eve.
I'm sure Pandemic Horde is teaching him how to do it right. But honestly, angelface is not qualified to rate the OUCH training program.
In order to do that, you actually have to get in TS, meet the crew, maybe take a couple of classes.
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Warcyb Brucalus
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2016.02.06 04:08:56 -
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Yours truly will be teaching today at 18:00. There is still time to join. |
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Warcyb Brucalus
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2016.02.10 13:34:08 -
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Modules 6-7 are coming up on Saturday. After our students take this class they will be able to pvp with the instructors. This is a very exciting time for them. |
Warcyb Brucalus
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2016.02.12 03:50:43 -
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We are still recruiting.
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Tireen Darksky
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.02.14 22:19:12 -
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This seems like an awesome idea. I'm much more into industry or I would join up. Mad props for developing a curriculum. |
Warcyb Brucalus
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2016.02.18 04:29:00 -
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It could be a good break from what you are doing now. Also, most of the skills are general use. The classes will help you stay alive.
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Jinn McKellin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.02.20 03:17:02 -
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Ok....this is just what I've been looking for. |
Warcyb Brucalus
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2016.02.22 03:36:54 -
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The next class is Modules 6-7 at 01:00 on the 25th. |
Warcyb Brucalus
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2016.02.24 03:58:49 -
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We are still recruiting.
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Warcyb Brucalus
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2016.02.26 04:41:46 -
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The next class is Saturday at 18:00 Eve Time. Modules 8-9. |
Warcyb Brucalus
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2016.03.10 04:14:47 -
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We are still recruiting. |
Warcyb Brucalus
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
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Posted - 2016.03.18 15:11:37 -
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I will be teaching the next class on Saturday at 18:00 Eve time. It is the first class in the series. If you sign up now, you can get the first class out of the way. |
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