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000Hunter000
Gallente
Infinite Style Incorporated
Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.20 20:20:00 -
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I think i also remember vaguely that the splashdamage was laughable so they just removed it.
Offcourse if u want an AoE weapon u can just load up on smarties.
another suggestion, reintroduce mines but with a difference, u can only launch them to a location in space not on a structure/ship and when it arrives there the mine explodes doing AoE damage, that way u launch them at your own risk but know u are.
Resized tag... again... hope this pleases the tag ninjas from ccp... again :p
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William Hamilton
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Posted - 2007.01.20 21:12:00 -
[32]
Blast damage Citadels
'nuff said.
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Aequitas Veritas
TAOSP
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.20 21:19:00 -
[33]
Hell yes!
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance - it is the illusion of knowledge." - Daniel J. Boorstin |
j0sephine
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.20 21:22:00 -
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"I know Torpedoes had AOE power while ago, then it was taken away for no apparent reason (CONCORDOKEN`D). This is ransom demand, I want splash damage to my torps again."
The side effect of splash damage was, it'd take both your ship and your pod out without a chance to react. Convenient when you are the one doing the shooting, but being on the receiving end.. well people didn't like it, and that was way before the current implant sets with their mad prices.
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FireFoxx80
Caldari
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.01.20 21:23:00 -
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Actually, I'd be all for a 3rd class of Missile based weapons introuced. Bombs.
Make them very slow, high damage AoE weapons. Useful only against things like capital ships or near-stationary targets.
Would certainly make stealth bombers more interesting as they would be forced to uncloak at a short range, rather than rely on their range.
What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass! |
Taylor timenenzi
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Posted - 2007.01.20 21:27:00 -
[36]
 Originally by: j0sephine
"I know Torpedoes had AOE power while ago, then it was taken away for no apparent reason (CONCORDOKEN`D). This is ransom demand, I want splash damage to my torps again."
The side effect of splash damage was, it'd take both your ship and your pod out without a chance to react. Convenient when you are the one doing the shooting, but being on the receiving end.. well people didn't like it, and that was way before the current implant sets with their mad prices.
Just to add. The delay from a exploding ship to you actualy being able to controll and warp away in a pod doesnt get you killed now a days by insta locking frigs?? or smartbombs??
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j0sephine
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.20 21:41:00 -
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"Just to add. The delay from a exploding ship to you actualy being able to controll and warp away in a pod doesnt get you killed now a days by insta locking frigs?? or smartbombs??"
It may in some circumstances (while splash just works no matter if you get lag or not) ... but unlike splash damage the insta locking frigs and/or smartbombs don't come as free part of regular missile setup ^^
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Araxmas
Black Lance
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.01.20 22:03:00 -
[38]
hmm
Jita caldari navy station + suicide raven AOE torper = I will pay for a ring-side seat
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
Northern Intelligence
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.20 22:03:00 -
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No unless I can use AOE in empire without Concord blowing my ships up. AOE will be used by nasty players to wreck havoc in empire. 
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Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria!
Kali is for KArebearLIng.
I 100% agree with Avon.
Female EVE gamers? Mail Zajo or visit WGOE.Public in-game. |
Servius Caecilius
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Posted - 2007.01.20 22:35:00 -
[40]
No.
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Gone'Postal
Minmatar
LuthorCorp Combat Division
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Posted - 2007.01.20 22:40:00 -
[41]
Add it to all T2 torps.
Try and fire them in empire systems will show the same message as trying to open a bubble or other non-empire item.
Known Issues & Workarounds - The forum to fix the issues of Eve... Godhelp us if the Devs start trying to. |
Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2007.01.20 23:13:00 -
[42]
humm interesting... a blob of torps/whatever would blow up itself? might even make defenders a lil more interesting again...
or give those some splash damage =)
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Kala Veijo
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.01.21 09:33:00 -
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Well seriously, what we need is new torp class that does more AOE damage than direct damage to target. Then you can allways use normal torps in empire if you really insist.
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Amaron Ghant
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.01.21 09:41:00 -
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Originally by: Misses Gap
The community is now deffo grown up enough to get at least a variant of a splash damage missile weapon back.
/signed
gap
"deffo grown up"
Oh thanks for that, you made my morning.
A seperate AOE torp (or 4, one for each damage type) with a skill to match would be a good idea.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.21 10:17:00 -
[45]
Back in the old days, the Torpedoes skill increased the blast radius.
Nobody trained it past level 1.
Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
It's great being Amarr, ain't it? |
Grimpak
Gallente
Twisted Attitude
Apocalyptica.
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Posted - 2007.01.21 10:32:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Araxmas
hmm
Jita caldari navy station + suicide raven AOE torper = I will pay for a ring-side seat
I will pay to have a hauler with salvager nearby
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Originally by: Tiuwaz
for caldari perception weapons that hit up to 100km are short range weapons 
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Thor Xian
Vertigo One
E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2007.01.21 10:53:00 -
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Eve would need to be reworked alot to make AOE missiles viable again.
~Thor Xian, Material Defender
"For all your Material Needs, Vertigo One."
Corp/Alliance Services |
Matori Kar
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Posted - 2007.01.21 10:55:00 -
[48]
Edited by: Matori Kar on 21/01/2007 10:52:24
Stealth bombers, and stealth bombers alone getting a new missile type with splash damage
Edit: And maybe allowing stealth bombers (or a new varient) able to use a new redesigned form of mine :)
Caldari: Don't have to worry about transversal, falloff/optimal, cap, tracking, how your damage type is being tanked,ship speed, the direction you are moving... etc. Easy Mode w00t!! |
Great Artista
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.01.21 11:00:00 -
[49]
Yes. (And I dont even fly ravens)
Besides, someone mentioned that it would be nessecary to nerf all other top-tier weapons, like 1400mm's. NO. Weapons are different, arties have alpha, rails range, and lasers are LASERS (PEW PEW!).
IMO torps should have AOE.
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Shi Mun
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2007.01.21 11:04:00 -
[50]
Splash damage on rage torpedos
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HAHA! your jammers suck now! Oh wait whats happening to my scorpion... |
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cold lazarus
Amarr
Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2007.01.21 11:09:00 -
[51]
I know some people who still have nightmares about splash damage 
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Magr Rose
Contention Inc
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Posted - 2007.01.21 11:19:00 -
[52]
I belive the main reason for the removing of AOE damage from torps was due to lag. So I guess that would be a even bigger problem now then it was back then....
If lag wasn't a iseue though I would love to see AOE torps again. 
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Gabriel Karade
Nulli-Secundus
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Posted - 2007.01.21 12:03:00 -
[53]
Daisy-chaining torpedoes were always fun to watch (i.e. when they were not spaced far enough apart, so that the lead torpedo detonating set-off the one behind and so on ), but having said that, if they brought in AoE torpedoes I may start to invest more than 45k SP in missiles... 
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Se'la Rox
Caldari
Contempo Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.01.21 12:54:00 -
[54]
CCP is always going on about how they don't like blobbing. Maybe sticking some AoE weapons there will help spread things out a little?
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Rod Blaine
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.21 13:04:00 -
[55]
Edited by: Rod Blaine on 21/01/2007 13:03:03
Downside of aoe torps was the instapoddage and the concordokkennedy effect.
So, what if you changed rage torps to have an aoe attack, but with such limitation that small signature ships take less to no damage unless targetpainted (hey, don't we already...yes) ?
A damage reduction or something would be in order however, but in general bad/good ?
Old blog Originally by: Vriezuh
Naz: John is a realist
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Kala Veijo
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.01.21 14:44:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Rod Blaine
Edited by: Rod Blaine on 21/01/2007 13:03:03
Downside of aoe torps was the instapoddage and the concordokkennedy effect.
So, what if you changed rage torps to have an aoe attack, but with such limitation that small signature ships take less to no damage unless targetpainted (hey, don't we already...yes) ?
A damage reduction or something would be in order however, but in general bad/good ?
Yep. Small ships would take less damage than Bs.
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Dr Einkeisel
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.21 14:45:00 -
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wasn't the splash damage blowing up some of your own torps ? and insta podding / blowing the loot can up.
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j0sephine
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.21 16:03:00 -
[58]
Edited by: j0sephine on 21/01/2007 16:00:42
"Besides, someone mentioned that it would be nessecary to nerf all other top-tier weapons, like 1400mm's. NO. Weapons are different, arties have alpha, rails range, and lasers are LASERS (PEW PEW!).
IMO torps should have AOE."
Cool. Let's give torpedoes AOE so they're useless in empire. For the desired weapon variety in exchange let's make the top-end artillery, lasers and railguns useless in 0.0 space. Oh and heavy drones useless everywhere, just because.
After all, why not? That wouldn't be nerf, that would just be making the weapons different. People can always fit the mid-end guns of these types or medium drones if they feel they must use them... :s
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Torquemanda Corteaz
Gallente
Infinite Improbability Inc
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.01.21 16:06:00 -
[59]
there are still mine bpcs in our corp hangars
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Lt Hole
Caldari
Tyrell Corp
INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2007.01.21 16:11:00 -
[60]
Splash damage in a fleet fight.
Splash damage in Empire during a war.
Oh yea, that would be something to behold.
If you're nervous, smacktalk in local.
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