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Paper Pusher
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Posted - 2007.01.21 09:44:00 -
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As the title says. Im selling a Legal Tactic , that WAS cleared by a GM.
With this tactic you could potentially shut down Marketers on any given item and even possably influence Consumers to purchase specific Items in entirely diffrent regions! Although I belive you can use it to your advantage with just minimal Logistics and devert Consumers to you.
Here is the deal. I will be taking orders for this idea for the next Week(and not until that time will delivery be made) So only people that Purchase this info from me by the end of Next Sunday (So January 28th) will be involved in it.
You dont need to post here (incase you want your identity protected) but you Must Contact me in game. State Why you are transfering the isk to me (and not Until we "finalize the deal"), Then on Monday the 29th I will evemail you the info From the character thats was told this was a completly legal Tactic. You then will confirm to me that you recived the info.
I will show you ways to use this tactic to manipulate the market in a manner you can potentially force all consumers to buy from you. This idea works best with Large volume orders. The larger the better.
Im asking 500 Million for this Info but will be open to "reviewing" requests for a price break ie. taking offers in some cases. The reason I want this amount is if someone used this tactic against me and used in the way I show you its true strength and value, well they would greatly and adversly effect my Marketing , and Im sure my Competitors that ive humilated would use it relentlesly.
I will not respond to any post that say "Is this your idea" or "Ths is it". If you post something that might not be "legal" and someone gets baned for it , im sure they will drag you along with them.
You see my "Tactic" has a "Get out of Jail Free" card with every purchase. I will send you the name of my character that was told this tactic was "OK" to use. I will Not ever mention the GM's name (in most cases Ive found that this in itself may get you baned) but if you ever have a GM tell you that you cant do it , then you refer them to this post and give them the name of the character that was told its "OK". That clears you from any "wrong doing".
Even if you dont plan to use it , if your a large volume marketer and you dont see this coming you will be shut down for days or even weeks. So you really need to be advised about this. I will not offer this again and it will be limited to the origional purchasers. If you ever here a rumor that "this is the idea" it will be useless to you unless you have the name of the character thats has the GM statement that clears this as a totally legal marketing tactic. So I cant urge you enough NOT to use ant tactic if your not sre its legal.
Let me explain my true motives. I felt this is completly a grief tactic and an Exploit , it takes advantage of something that dosnt work correctly. The GM in my opinion blew me off and i feel he "challenged" me to "waste" my time doing it. I did promise him that he would be getting 100's if not thousands of Complaints in the near future about this "exploit". so
Thanks and let the fun begin. as I like to tell my competitors Ive just punished in the market.
Stupid is as Stupid does
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lofty29
Athanasius Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.21 09:52:00 -
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Mafia much, Veto Don Paper Pusher? ---
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Warrio
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Posted - 2007.01.21 09:56:00 -
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I've got an awsome secret about how to scam people. It works 100% of the time and I'll even give you a demonstration. I'll trade my method for yours.
It's not the size of the dog in the fight that matters, it's the number of dogs you warp in with. |
Paper Pusher
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Posted - 2007.01.21 10:04:00 -
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Ive been called a lot of names but never a lair or dishonest.
you can read the numerous posts about me and see for yourself.
Im also posting on the boards. Im relitively sure if you didnt provide what you offer here that you would get baned. Just like on Game time code scams.
My account is a year old now? hand i have 76+ billion to my name, all the isk was earned on the markets. I wouldnt chance getting baned for a scam.
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hellwarrior
Caldari Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2007.01.21 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Paper Pusher Edited by: Paper Pusher on 21/01/2007 10:04:51 Ive been called a lot of names but never a liar or dishonest.
you can read the numerous posts about me and see for yourself.
Im also posting on the boards. Im relitively sure if you didnt provide what you offer here that you would get baned. Just like on Game time code scams.
My account is a year old now? hand i have 76+ billion to my name, all the isk was earned on the markets. I wouldnt chance getting baned for a scam.
You can't get banned for scamming.
The posts a scam. nuff said.
Trying to manipulate with a loopy worded essay on how hes going to do what people have attempted time and time again.
Scam through a legit "informational" trade.
No one does that.
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Aaeolian
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Posted - 2007.01.21 11:41:00 -
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Yes do a search for Paper Pusher and read how much of a tool this guy is lol He somehow things basic price manipulation is nber smart, do us a favour and stop clutering the forums with your bs spam
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Paper Pusher
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Posted - 2007.01.21 11:51:00 -
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Nice to see some of my fans come out.
Tell me what you deal in on the market and I will destroy your sales. then tell me its a scam. how can you present nothing to prove that its a scam or that id scam , yet have the nerve to say it outloud? Thats pretty pathetic and this thread wasnt started so you could come troll and say nothing of substance or value.
Also. Define not being abled to be baned for a scam. if thats so , how can you get "banned" for scamming game time codes. I at least admit im not 100% sure what can get you baned but your not based in reality to make a statement that you Cant get baned. Get at least 1 fact correct and present some facts for your "argument" before you post another useless troll. Please
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Mrs Biatch
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Posted - 2007.01.21 13:01:00 -
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This is a great post and I just wanted to thank you for amusing me. I ask the GMs to make some kind of database where we could store this kind of "inventive" pearls of great minds so they don't get lost. It would be shame if future generations wouldn't be able to see them...
I specially like the part where you explain your true motives that are basically very altruistic and you only want to repair the exploit and punish the GMs. (I only don't understand where do those 500mill you ask fit into your motives )
Anyway, thnx once more and keep up the good work. I hope this is not the last great invention from you and I'd be really glad to see another one in near or far future...
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Motivated Prophet
Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.01.21 20:21:00 -
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PP,
How about a trusted third party reviews the information you have? As I have no intention of paying 500 mil for it, or using anything bordering on an exploit when I have others' money at stake were my accounts to get banned, I humbly nominate myself as the reviewer.
If it's legit, I'll post here saying so. If it's not, I'll post here saying that as well. My only fee as proxy for this information will be the sating of my curiosity as to what it is.
Sound fair? MP
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Casper Blake
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2007.01.21 23:19:00 -
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Edited by: Casper Blake on 21/01/2007 23:16:02
Originally by: Paper Pusher
Also. Define not being abled to be baned for a scam. if thats so , how can you get "banned" for scamming game time codes. I at least admit im not 100% sure what can get you baned but your not based in reality to make a statement that you Cant get baned. Get at least 1 fact correct and present some facts for your "argument" before you post another useless troll. Please
Sell order rules says
Quote: 16. Trading is not binding, if one party does not honor an agreement made on these forums, ISD or CCP may not be able to help you.
Game rules says
Quote: Items or isk lost to a scam may only be reimbursed if the scammer used a verified bug to hide his intentions to scam, and only after an investigation and at the discretion of a GM.
Knowledge base says
Quote: A scam is what happens when someone takes advantage of your misplaced trust, temporary confusion or ignorance of game rules, and robs you via legal in-game means. When this occurs, there is nothing the Support Team can do for you. Although low and despicable, scams do not violate any game mechanics and can not be compensated for by the GMs, nor can the scammers generally be punished for their actions.
It's all in the rules of this forum. Just setting things straight.
The exception is character and GTC sales.
Quote: 17. Scamming ETCÆs and character sales are not allowed, please petition if you suspect you have been scammed. When buying and selling characters, please note that by confirming the trade via EVEmail, you ensure that the facts of the matter are documented, should any later disputes arise that require GM attention.
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Delusional Penguin
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Posted - 2007.01.22 00:54:00 -
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it would be nice to know how profitable this strategy is and how many money is needed to make it work. and of course getting it verified by a known trusted person would help allot.
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Paper Pusher
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Posted - 2007.01.22 02:50:00 -
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Thanks to everyone who has invested already.
Answering most mey sayers I will add this.
In the rules it said "may" so its not a definte that any scamer Cant get baned , they are just eliminating a potential work load that would be unbelivable to follow up on and prove 1 way or the other.
Ive been in game for a long period of time and have been called alot of names. never a scamer or a liar.
My motavation isnt the isk but im sure that my competitors would Not pay that amount and im sure that will "protect" me from them usinf this against me , otherwise Id just post what it is.
As with anything the amount of profit you make will be how much you already have in the market or how much you will aquire to resale. This Tactic will Criple your compatition and if you use it correctly you will then get ALL the buisness they would have and cant now. So if you can make alot by haveing near exclusive selling/buying rights , then this is for you.
Once again I wouldnt risk my account on anything shady and have had this Tactic 100% cleared by a GM. Even though in my personal opinion it is an exploit he told me its a "PvP Tactic. (where you dont actually ingage in combat , how intresting).
MP , I will be in touch with you. Also , anyone have anything good or bad to say about MP. Is here "word" good for you?
Thanks
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Da Death
Minmatar Relentless Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.01.22 04:07:00 -
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The Legal Tactic is just what Paper Pusher does: Scamming 500mil
its like this:
A newspaper seller shouts: '13 victims get scammed already in this city!'. A man walks up to the newspaper guy and buys a paper. The newspaper seller then shouts: '14 Victims get scammed already in this city!'
Please do me a favor and send paper pusher 500mil so we have something to laugh at =)
DD
S@#^$%te link broken -($%*
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Paper Pusher
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Posted - 2007.01.22 07:48:00 -
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Once again.
On what premise do you say its a scam? Just becuase you can?
Ok Lets assume that the # of views this post has had are the # of people that feel this is a scam, There its said, and you dont really need to say it again unless your admitting that your trolling.
Please do not post that its a scam without any evidence. otherwise your just saying what has been said before. There has been no bases or fact to even hint that its a scam other than your troll.
Its a sad statement about the EVE comunity when someone who has played over a year , has 78 (yes ive made more) Billion isk in thier wallet and has never been accused of scaming or having been a liar and you come here with no basis other than your personal sceptacism and say that.
Fine if you think it is , play it safe and dont get this info. Let the people that do get it have an extremly unfair advantage over you in the market place. But keep your distrustfull opinion to yourself if you dont have 1 shred of evidence. Let everyone who dosnt get it assume like you and just let it go, its been said, its been said alot. believe what you will.
Nomore trolling Please.
as I like to tell my competitors ive just humilated in the Market.
Stupid is as Stupid does.
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Captain Octane
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Posted - 2007.01.22 08:31:00 -
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Originally by: Paper Pusher On what premise do you say its a scam? Just becuase you can?
Well you can't exactly prove it's *not* a scam either, since you are giving no evidence to the contrary. Right now all we have is your "word", which I personally wouldn't give 0.01 isk for after reading the recent threads about your antics. Although it might not be a scam, it certainly smells like one. How about posting a screenshot of your 78 billion. That way you can at least show you are telling the truth about something |
NoNah
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Posted - 2007.01.22 08:41:00 -
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"You cant prove youre innocent"? Interesting way of thinking... "Guilty until proven innocent".
As far as Im concerned, theres no way calling this a scam or not until someone has actually conducted trade with him.
On the other hand, he claims to own 78 billion, wich is quite a sum for any and all players in EVE. Wich makes me think of what other names I can come up with with immense wealth. The richest of them all, to my knowledge obviously, the former CEO of EIB. I wonder wich way is the fastest and easiest to gain great wealth... could it be... scamming ?
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RichThugster
Gallente Revelations Inc. Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2007.01.22 08:45:00 -
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Originally by: Paper Pusher Please do not post that its a scam without any evidence. otherwise your just saying what has been said before. There has been no bases or fact to even hint that its a scam other than your troll.
please do not post that its real, without evidence. nobody will believe you have a legal grieftactic exploit without proof, or some supporting evidence.
You mentioned your point for doing this is to effectively get it banned. Are you offering any sort of refunds if its banned within so many days/weeks?
REVELATIONS RECRUITING NOW |
Paper Pusher
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Posted - 2007.01.22 09:21:00 -
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please do not post that its real, without evidence. nobody will believe you have a legal grieftactic exploit without proof, or some supporting evidence.
You mentioned your point for doing this is to effectively get it banned. Are you offering any sort of refunds if its banned within so many days/weeks?
Thats a great point. I personally feel that even if they were to attemt to "fix" this situatuin that the fix wouldnt be implemented for weeks. Now if they do fix it and fix it before you at least Double your investment that you paid to me (nomatter how long until its fixed) I will refund the diffrence. So to put a formula to it: Take your profit generated by this (that excludes normal profit you would have made anyway , so your Increased profit that you feel this has generated you) Devide that amount by 2 and subtract that from what you invested. Thats the amount Ill return to you , incase it is fixed. Now as you are trusting me to invest in this Ill return the trust and accept your totals and amount requested for a refund.
Sadly I know this tactic works well and im suprised the person that uses it against hasnt come here and told everyone how they do it, This alone proves to me that they are doing it purley to grief me. When something isnt working the way its intended and someone uses that to thier advantage , thats an exploit. When a GM sayd its an "OK Tactic" its now good marketing practice. I feel sorry for the big mineral investers , this can destroy the mineral market for the uninformed marketer and the 1 using this , with just a little effort will cash in.
In fact I hope they are working on a fix now and I wont get 1 penny , becuase thats my true intent. I just cant risk that it dosnt get fixed and more competitors that are obsessed with me use it against me. The effect would be more umanageable than some refreshing thier bids evey 5 minutes (which I have some do).
Thats was a great point and I look forward to more.
Thanks
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Captain Octane
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Posted - 2007.01.22 09:43:00 -
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I only noticed how you nimbly avoided replying to the idea of posting a screenshot of your "78 billion" |
Joe
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Posted - 2007.01.22 09:52:00 -
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I'm Quite interested, but i would like a demonstration first please.
Crash Cap II prices to below 4 mil per unit, and the isk will be sent.
Pe0w |
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Vawziette
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Posted - 2007.01.22 10:05:00 -
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Only way yo prove it is to go live with it now and say that "this is the market I will crash within xxxx days" and everyone can follow how that item and market goes.
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DeODokktor
Caldari Dark Templars The Fonz Presidium
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Posted - 2007.01.22 11:14:00 -
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For 500m isk, I will verify if this method works or not and pass the information on to you. Once you have said information (and know it works or doesnt) then I give you the exclusive sell rights to it and your welcome to offer it up to others at 250m a go....
I had a guy the other day trying to sell me a "GM Verified" "way to hide your assets".... after me calling him a p*****r and d******d and ISS Wannabe I got himi to sell what the big secret was, I tested it and wala, he was correct.... But the problem was that he never bug reported the issue and the DEVS (the guy's who fix problems) didnt know about it....
Anyhow.. If you know of a bug and your selling information to a bug then you can be banned..
If you say your griefing the markets (and the only way I know how is by top listing your gear even when it's a new order, or not even the cheapest order, the interface needs fixing badly).... But if you say your griefing the markets and players then it's probably something that's wrong and needs fixing. I have also found that gm's (and I have taken many questions to senior gm's) generally dont answer questions about mechanics of the game, so if you did find a bug and asked a gm if you could use it then the answer would have probably been something along the lines of "Please bug report this if you feel it's not working as intended".
So yes your either scamming or your griefing using a bug.
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Motivated Prophet
Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.01.22 14:01:00 -
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I ask all the scam-prognosticators to withold judgment (and, obviously, don't send him isk) until I, or someone else trusted in the marketplace, has verified it. I'll also pass it along to the GM's and check that it is legitimate.
If, in addition to the quite-understandable stance of not trusting Paper Pusher, you cannot trust me to act as a proxy in this situation, then, clearly, you have nothing but vitriol to add to the thread, so please don't post.
PP, I look forward to hearing from you.
MP
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RichThugster
Gallente Revelations Inc. Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2007.01.22 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Paper Pusher In fact I hope they are working on a fix now and I wont get 1 penny , becuase thats my true intent. I just cant risk that it dosnt get fixed and more competitors that are obsessed with me use it against me. The effect would be more umanageable than some refreshing thier bids evey 5 minutes (which I have some do).
if thats your intention then why are you selling a bug. all your doing is encouraging others to do the same.
If you intend to get the issue fixed, then why accept money for it? why sell it to ppl so they can use it but not others?
What can you do to add more credit? *Show a screeny of your so called 78bil, in high quality so it can be validated. *either admit you want to make isk, or you want this fixed *get a recognised member of eve to validate your claim.
Until you do any of these things, myself and many others will not even think twice about buying this, And whats to say someone with 78bil sat in their wallet wants to blow 500mil, to get the info and post on forums? simply to spite the seller and ppl who invested?
REVELATIONS RECRUITING NOW |
Warrio
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Posted - 2007.01.22 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: Paper Pusher Tell me what you deal in on the market and I will destroy your sales. then tell me its a scam.
I deal in T2 Armor Hardners and T1 Tachyons. Off you go and destroy those markets hot shot.
It's not the size of the dog in the fight that matters, it's the number of dogs you warp in with. |
Dromidas Shadowmoon
Minmatar 54th Knights Templar
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Posted - 2007.01.22 20:44:00 -
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Although its not my intention to help people prey on the helpless, such as pirates do, I do often find myself telling pirates what they are doing wrong. As far as I'm concerned, scamming is no different than being a pirate who uses the pen instead of the sword. The main concern I have about your scam techniques, Paper Pusher, is that all of your posts have glaring grammar and spelling errors. While the built-in spell checker may not find them, such as "I like pizza two", most people will notice these errors in your posts and they will discredit you. A friend of mine works in human relations for a company that receives large quantities of resumes, both online and hard copy, and the first thing they notice is grammatical errors. The potential employee is dismissed based on that, not their qualifications. To avoid making the post too long I'll get to the point: If you wish to scam people, spell correctly and use as close to proper grammar as you can. You can't always avoid typos but if they are too numerous you will be summarily dismissed by the people you are trying to victimize.
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Paper Pusher
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Posted - 2007.01.23 01:53:00 -
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I know im careless with my spelling but I thought I still spoke something that resembled english. Since my last post , all the questions you ask or bring up have already been answerd. Read what ive wrote , read it slow , understand it. then if you still have a question you can ask. The only one that wasnt clearly answered is the "isk" issue, well I have 3 accounts with 8 marketers (and 1 PvP'er that has some also) and nearly all have near maxed marketing skills. Since they work on margin and at any given moment I have 1 billion to 15 billon in buy orders on each character and I need to have a good amount of isk "fluid" to cover my buy orders becuase of the Margin Trading skill. I could take 9 screen shots and expose to my competitors "who" I am (which they would be suprised to find out I am "one of them" lol) or I could transfer my isk to 1 character (leaving my orders vulnerable) so if thats your hold up , dont invest.
Once again Ill ask , Is Motivated Phrophet an acceptable 3rd party? If I tell her and she comes and says its a good deal , will this be acceptable "proof"? I havent had 1 response to this either way.
To clear this up (and i thought I said this) I reported this as a Bug/Exploit/ and the GM said it was "OK" to use. I think you can "work" around this "issue" with your settings , its just that your "consumers" would have to be the ones to do this and its a "defualt" setting so im sure 99% of the people in eve have it set "wrong" and it will effect thier attempted intraction with you or your orders.
Ill answer the Tech II guy. If I were to put on a "display" that benifits you and not me (which is ludicruse) and you observe closely , you may figure it out and there would be no need to "purchase" it , now would there.
I know I appear extremly stupid to even present this becuase it does take a degree of trust and clearly thats not a commodity that exsists in the EVE universe. But Ive been in Gaming for 30 years now and I personally have never been scamed. Ive never had a character in any game that scamed or stole by bending the rules. Im proud of my integrity in real life and I bring that with me in my gaming. I was an area manager for CapCom and a Game Tester for them aswell. I would not lower myself to get ahead in a game especially when I would never need to. I approuch games diffrently and I can beat any game and most players. I remember when CapCom held the "world championships for SFII , I was a head judge , after the competition I played all the top 10 players and if I would have entered (or been allowed to ) Id have taken 3rd place , which im proud of becuase all the top 10 came from the LA area and had a unique style , that in itself was very hard to beat if you had never seen it before. SO if I ever had to resort to tactics that were "pathetic" and dishonest , id rather not "play" that game.
Thanks to the additional players that signed up today.
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Paper Poocher
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Posted - 2007.01.23 02:06:00 -
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Originally by: Paper Pusher
Thanks and let the fun begin. as I like to tell my competitors Ive just punished in the market.
Stupid is as Stupid does
1st line should read:
I've just [GOT] punished in the market
and yes u are stupid
BTW, if anyone wants a good method to pwn paper pusher, contact me and i'll teach u how to make 1b in ur first month as a brand new noob
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Paper Pusher
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Posted - 2007.01.23 02:08:00 -
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Originally by: Dromidas Shadowmoon Edited by: Dromidas Shadowmoon on 22/01/2007 20:43:15 Although its not my intention to help people prey on the helpless, such as pirates do, I do often find myself telling pirates what they are doing wrong. As far as I'm concerned, scamming is no different than being a pirate who uses the pen instead of the sword. The main concern I have about your scam techniques, Paper Pusher, is that all of your posts have glaring grammar and spelling errors. While the built-in spell checker may not find them, such as "I like pizza two", most people will notice these errors in your posts and they will discredit you. A friend of mine works in human relations for a company that receives large quantities of resumes, both online and hard copy, and the first thing they notice is grammatical errors. The potential employee is dismissed based on that, not their qualifications. To avoid making the post too long I'll get to the point: If you wish to scam people, spell correctly and use as close to proper grammar as you can. You can't always avoid typos but if they are too numerous you will be summarily dismissed by the people you are trying to victimize.
PS: Overusing the "quotes" will have adverse effects. Have you ever met someone who liked to make the little quote motion with their hands frequently while talking? Yea, I hate that too. Doing it in text isn't much different, although more tolerable. You take it beyond tolerable.
Whats funny is I posted the response after yours without having read yours. lol. In school I they wanted to advance me 2 grades becuase of a spelling test , in 3rd grade i aced a spelling test and the teacher was amazed , she then set up an IQ test , when I scored 186 they wanted to advance me up 2 grades. My Mother didnt feel it was good for me and refused to let them , school was boring and it felt like I was being held back. I never opened a book again and went on to get my degree in electronic engineering nearly aceing all the corses along the way. I refuse to obsess over my spelling and refuse to waste 1 second to go back and correct it just so people like yourself might think more of me , lol.
Also when I was a Manager I was the same way , I never hired someone that mispelled on an ap including thier name ( I had that happen , lol ) Also if the ap was sloppy and not neat ( I had 1 that still had pizza? on it ) so I agree with you in that instant , But I find alot of people want to attack you as being "stupid" if you dont spell correctly , well my fat fingers hit to many keys sometimes and I just dont obsess over it, If its clear enough to understand im ok with it and if your not smart enough to figure it out , all the better.
I was suprised it took so long for someone to "attack" that , guess my "enemy" wernt Desperate yet. I dont think if my spelling was 100% that would cuase 1 more person to purchase this Tactic , and if thats the reason someone dosnt , wow. Does it really bother you that much? Id attack my grammer before i mentioned spelling. hehe
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Paper Pusher
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Posted - 2007.01.23 02:25:00 -
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Originally by: Paper Poocher
Originally by: Paper Pusher
Thanks and let the fun begin. as I like to tell my competitors Ive just punished in the market.
Stupid is as Stupid does
1st line should read:
I've just [GOT] punished in the market
and yes u are stupid
BTW, if anyone wants a good method to pwn paper pusher, contact me and i'll teach u how to make 1b in ur first month as a brand new noob
Oh look its resorted to flaming and trolling in attempt to get this thread locked.
Shadowmoon , I must be tired becuase on a few points stood out when I read your post. Your not ver observant yourself becuase I already aske the nay sayers to withold thier "itsa Scammm" becuase without proof then your just repeating what has been said 15 times. I see now you DID attack the grammer and clearly your only point as to beat it into the readers head SCAM SCAM SCAM. If thats what you belive dont invest. and no need for you to look foolish and repeat it again?
Now the next poster , this is what I have been up against from the moment I stepped into the +1 market and is the real reason I wont let it go. I stepped on someones toes that was ripping off the +1 marketers and I stablized the market. Ever since then Ive been under a constant berage of seemingly deranged people. To take the time to make an alt similuar to my character . lol man thats borderline loony toons. you need some help bro , Im as wealthy in real life as in game so if you need some cash to see a profesional to help you with your problem , let me know ill hire 1 for you. Now take your meds , everything will be ok.
If someone figures out who this guys main is ( becuase he knows he has to hide or i would destroy him in the market) Ill pay extremly well for that information.
Moderator? can we delete some of the blantant flames? and give out some warnings? Im sure you can see who the last posters accounts are connected to and take action if you so chose , oh wait , its a PvP game , you can do anything you want.
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