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Eternum Praetorian
Club Bear
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Posted - 2011.12.14 13:14:00 -
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Over the past year I have been leading raids into Providence and Amarr with the express intent of collecting Amarr slaves. As of late I have been forced to take a break from my usual pillaging, and can now sit back and truly appreciate how freakin awesome the Amarr perform this role.
This is a picture of a few Amarrians "Rowing" my Vagabond
What is actually happening there is they are using manual labor to keep the main reactor's coolant pumps flowing. This process is remarkably energy efficient, which allows me to dedicate more energy to the ships MWD. This in turn increases it's over all speed. Naturally this is a rudimentary modification, but I hope to see many more innovations like this as time passes!
A Word On Amarr Slaves
These faithful little bastards never tire! Who would have thought? I have been experimenting with enslaving many races, but by far the Amarr are the best of the lot. I contribute this behavior to my own personal style of behavior modification. When they sleep I simply have these words broadcasted into their slave chamber "God wants you to row! Row!" the louder the better. Once you have achieved enough sleep deprivation, a kind of hysterical lunacy follows that makes their minds more receptive to the behavior modification.
I recall how I walked by one of these lesser creatures, and he referred to me as god before asking me for a biscuit. I did enjoy being called god, and ofc since I had no biscuit, I slapped him with the back of me hand! He asked me why I smite him, and I told him that he was not rowing fast enough. Every since then, that little bugger is rowing like he is in the Olympics.
In Conclusion
If you are looking for slaves, I highly encourage you to look towards the less defended areas of Providence and Amarr. Also, I have found it easy to collect a few additional slaves in between Sansha raids, since Concord is so preoccupied with the true nation. I will happily provide any details to anyone who wishes to hear more. For a small fee, I will even share my behavioral modification audio files, one of which includes a small video file of me sitting in my captain's chair naked and singing my very own rendition of Poker Face.
Thank you everyone, I should have more updates for you as these experiments unfold. I may begin dissecting the amarr brain as well, to see how it differs from the brains of supposedly "lesser races". This should be interesting! Fly dangerously! Reallocate funds for Icelandic air fare to developing an integrated player input function in the UI. Then talk directly to the customers with polls to collect demographics and game preferences
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Khazarn Areth
The Black Pigs The Black Pigs Alliance
30
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Posted - 2011.12.15 16:15:00 -
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I find that they make rather satisfying armour plating/decorations for my ship hull, the "noble" ones at least. Bloody Omir's coming back Monsters from the endless black Wading through a crimson flood Omir's come to drink your blood |
Lucius Vindictus
East Khanid Trading Khanid Trade Syndicate
17
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Posted - 2011.12.15 20:06:00 -
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Pfff. I own Amarrian slaves myself... so what? A slave is a slave... |
Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
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Posted - 2011.12.16 10:47:00 -
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Lucius Vindictus wrote:Pfff. I own Amarrian slaves myself... so what? A slave is a slave...
Ditto. No need to be racist about it. .domination sentinel .stillwater |
Astrid Stjerna
Teraa Matar
152
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Posted - 2011.12.16 20:52:00 -
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I do enjoy the sense of irony Captain Praetorian shows with that post. |
Conventia Underking
Teraa Matar
26
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Posted - 2011.12.18 20:30:00 -
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I'm not quite sure what to make of this. What is the goal behind this slavery? For God; Salvation is Imperative, but not at the cost of our Humanity! |
Khazarn Areth
The Black Pigs The Black Pigs Alliance
30
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Posted - 2011.12.18 21:04:00 -
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Conventia Underking wrote:I'm not quite sure what to make of this. What is the goal behind this slavery?
Humiliation, revenge or need for cheap labour.
Either of those or a mix of the three are most likely. Bloody Omir's coming back Monsters from the endless black Wading through a crimson flood Omir's come to drink your blood |
Conventia Underking
Teraa Matar
26
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Posted - 2011.12.18 23:19:00 -
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Khazarn Areth wrote:Conventia Underking wrote:I'm not quite sure what to make of this. What is the goal behind this slavery? Humiliation, revenge or need for cheap labour. Either of those or a mix of the three are most likely.
If that is the case, I cannot condone this. For God; Salvation is Imperative, but not at the cost of our Humanity!
Teraa Matar - the Vitoc Problem - Conventia Underking |
Eternum Praetorian
Club Bear
118
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Posted - 2011.12.19 00:34:00 -
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Conventia Underking wrote:Khazarn Areth wrote:Conventia Underking wrote:I'm not quite sure what to make of this. What is the goal behind this slavery? Humiliation, revenge or need for cheap labour. Either of those or a mix of the three are most likely. If that is the case, I cannot condone this.
It does not matter what you condone.
Like all masters of "lesser magnitude" I desire as much efficiency as possible as cheaply as possible, and with the least amount of effort and thought on my part. Sure... i suppose the coolant could be cycled by a machine that could do the work of 3 dozen slaves, but this is just so much cheaper.
I could purchase a hyper-efficient coolant pump with a quantum radiant power core rated at 100M years... but that cost ISK. With slaves I can just swoop on down to an unsuspecting group of Amarrians, and once captured let them bake in my isolation chamber for a few weeks. Once sleep deprived and properly driven mad by my soon to be patented techniques, they will row like the mad men they are in a vein attempt to hang on to what remains of their pitiful lives.
It is easy. It is cheap.
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Eternum Praetorian
Club Bear
118
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Posted - 2011.12.19 00:38:00 -
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Leopold Caine wrote:Lucius Vindictus wrote:Pfff. I own Amarrian slaves myself... so what? A slave is a slave... Ditto. No need to be racist about it.
Race is important here because it is the ingrained blind faith of the Amarr kind that makes my (soon to be patented) brainwashing techniques so effective.
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Uraniae Fehrnah
Viziam Amarr Empire
14
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Posted - 2011.12.19 03:41:00 -
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So I'm to understand feeding, clothing, and cleaning up after a team of slaves is cheaper than a mechanical pump? I think you might want to do a bit more research on various methods and prices and at least be honest with yourself about your reasoning.
You also aren't the first person to own Amarrian slaves and exploit their faith as a means of control and motivation. In fact I'd be willing to bet the entire balance of my wallet at this very moment that other Amarrians beat you to that by thousands, if not tens of thousands of years. The same goes for your (soon to be patented) indoctrination techniques.
You are doing nothing special or noteworthy and in your attempt to extract some small, and entirely inadequate measure of justice or earn your allotted fifteen minutes of fame, you have become exactly that which you loath. So congratulations, you are exactly the sort of slaver that even the Amarr would look down upon, self deluded, arrogant, and cruel. |
Mirabi Tiane
8
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Posted - 2011.12.19 08:45:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:I have been experimenting with enslaving many races, but by far the Amarr are the best of the lot. Seems everyone missed this. Mr. Praetorian has no apparent objection to slavery in general; revenge is likely not among his motivations. His Minmatar genealogy is not necessarily indicative of anything. |
Eternum Praetorian
Club Bear
118
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Posted - 2011.12.19 14:28:00 -
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Uraniae Fehrnah wrote:So I'm to understand feeding, clothing, and cleaning up after a team of slaves is cheaper than a mechanical pump? I think you might want to do a bit more research on various methods and prices and at least be honest with yourself about your reasoning.
You also aren't the first person to own Amarrian slaves and exploit their faith as a means of control and motivation. In fact I'd be willing to bet the entire balance of my wallet at this very moment that other Amarrians beat you to that by thousands, if not tens of thousands of years. The same goes for your (soon to be patented) indoctrination techniques.
You are doing nothing special or noteworthy and in your attempt to extract some small, and entirely inadequate measure of justice or earn your allotted fifteen minutes of fame, you have become exactly that which you loath. So congratulations, you are exactly the sort of slaver that even the Amarr would look down upon, self deluded, arrogant, and cruel.
Um.. I don't clean up after them, there is a grill beneath the slave chambers that they defecate through. Also, how much gruel do you think a few million ISK will buy? Yea... exactly. I can save tons of isk by buying gruel rations and dividing it up between the starving masses. I don't know what your trying to sell...
Speaking of selling...
My unique brand of mind altering and faith inducing madness is to my knowledge the first of it's kind. If you feel that others have come before me, please site your source with an appropriate link. Remember, it is patent pending and I am currently taking pre-orders. Feel free to contact me via EVE Mail anytime for pricing and special deals. Again Amarr slaves are not included in your purchase, but included will be instructions on how to go out and find your own. Reallocate funds for Icelandic air fare to developing an integrated player input function in the UI. Then talk directly to the customers with polls to collect demographics and game preferences
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Eternum Praetorian
Club Bear
118
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Posted - 2011.12.19 14:31:00 -
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Mirabi Tiane wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:I have been experimenting with enslaving many races, but by far the Amarr are the best of the lot. Seems everyone missed this. Mr. Praetorian has no apparent objection to slavery in general; revenge is likely not among his motivations. His Minmatar genealogy is not necessarily indicative of anything.
Yes Mirabi, I believe I have made my motivations quite clear. I just don't know why people feel the need to put words in my mouth.
Quote: "Like all masters of "lesser magnitude" I desire as much efficiency as possible as cheaply as possible, and with the least amount of effort and thought on my part. Sure... i suppose the coolant could be cycled by a machine that could do the work of 3 dozen slaves, but this is just so much cheaper."
It is easy. It is cheap.
What is not to love?
I, like all slave masters... do not wish to find new and creative ways to get things done. We want to think less and have other people do the toiling for us, and we ant it on the cheap... machines and technology be damned. There is nothing nicer (not to mention more gratifying) than having a person bring you coffee in the morning who would just assume jab a fork into your eye as look at you. Reallocate funds for Icelandic air fare to developing an integrated player input function in the UI. Then talk directly to the customers with polls to collect demographics and game preferences
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Aphoxema G
Teraa Matar
91
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Posted - 2011.12.19 15:13:00 -
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This is simply unacceptable and a horrible abuse of anything with any level of self-awareness. True Amarr are no more deserving of this than anyone else, regardless what their ancestors have done or what their society causes them to do.
I'm sure this "clever" utilization of humans would not be nearly so cost-effective were they given the right to leave and pursue other work and you were required to pay more than what it costs to keep them alive and moving.
If this is intended as a joke, then I can't apologize for not finding this funny. EVE Online IdeaTorrent |
Rorin Cutter
Defensores Fidei Curatores Veritatis Alliance
4
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Posted - 2011.12.19 16:33:00 -
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If Faith is what offers a path to Paradise then they are suffering gloriously for God. But since they are just being illegally detained and enslaved the Empire will catch up with you eventually and then you can tell us how it feels like yourself.
-Rorin |
Ugleb
Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
75
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Posted - 2011.12.19 18:02:00 -
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Laziness and delusion proudly displayed by the same Capsuleer...if only it were less common.
This...individual..is unworthy of the name Minmatar. He brings shame upon his tribe and clan, assuming of course that both didn't disown him years ago. http://uglebsjournal.wordpress.com/ |
Eternum Praetorian
Club Bear
118
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Posted - 2011.12.19 19:02:00 -
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Rorin Cutter wrote:If Faith is what offers a path to Paradise then they are suffering gloriously for God. But since they are just being illegally detained and enslaved the Empire will catch up with you eventually and then you can tell us how it feels like yourself.
-Rorin
Do you not keep slaves or have friends who do Mr. Cutter? I would so dearly love to hear your/their justifications so we can see how much it truly differs from my own. Dazzle me. Reallocate funds for Icelandic air fare to developing an integrated player input function in the UI. Then talk directly to the customers with polls to collect demographics and game preferences
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Ston Momaki
Disciples of Ston
34
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Posted - 2011.12.19 19:49:00 -
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Believing that this particular thread would fade away because people would chose not to dignify it with a response, the Disciples of Ston have refrained from commenting on it. However, because of a recent comment we read elsewhere, we have come to see that our cluster is full of such people as Mr. Praetorian. It pains us to further the visibility of this thread, yet we are duty bound to make a stand against Mr. Praetorian and his animal-like mind and motivations.
Therefore: The Disciples of Ston do condemn and oppose slavery of any race, including the capture and enslavement of citizens of nations that endorse and practice slavery. Revenge will never solve our problems. Slavery is conquered by freedom and liberty, not by more slavery. The Disciples of Ston bid you peace |
Eternum Praetorian
Club Bear
118
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Posted - 2011.12.19 19:55:00 -
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Ston Momaki wrote:Believing that this particular thread would fade away because people would chose not to dignify it with a response, the Disciples of Ston have refrained from commenting on it. However, because of a recent comment we read elsewhere, we have come to see that our cluster is full of such people as Mr. Praetorian. It pains us to further the visibility of this thread, yet we are duty bound to make a stand against Mr. Praetorian and his animal-like mind and motivations.
Therefore: The Disciples of Ston do condemn and oppose slavery of any race, including the capture and enslavement of citizens of nations that endorse and practice slavery. Revenge will never solve our problems. Slavery is conquered by freedom and liberty, not by more slavery.
Umm... to my understanding this is why everyone keeps slaves. Did I miss something? We live in an age where technology could easily replace any action requiring a slave labor force. That includes android house servants and electronic love slaves with perfect silicon bodies.
I only assumed that economic reasons were why people like myself keep slaves, what other possible reason could there be? Reallocate funds for Icelandic air fare to developing an integrated player input function in the UI. Then talk directly to the customers with polls to collect demographics and game preferences
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Rorin Cutter
Defensores Fidei Curatores Veritatis Alliance
4
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Posted - 2011.12.19 21:00:00 -
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We are all basically slaves to God and there is only through the hope of hard work that we will find our way to redemption and enlightenment, and this is the way it should be of course. Not for economic reasons. But for redemption and enlightenment, and the chance to maybe just maybe being forgiven of our sins and gaining the key to paradise. This is the only possible reason for slavery.
-Rorin |
Eternum Praetorian
Club Bear
118
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Posted - 2011.12.19 21:18:00 -
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Rorin Cutter wrote: We are all basically slaves to God and there is only through the hope of hard work that we will find our way to redemption and enlightenment, and this is the way it should be of course. Not for economic reasons. But for redemption and enlightenment, and the chance to maybe just maybe being forgiven of our sins and gaining the key to paradise. This is the only possible reason for slavery.
-Rorin
Nice dodge. You make a wonderful Amarrian, lawyer and politician... all of which seem synonymous with religion for some reason.
If by some chance you would like to actually address my question towards you in a realistic fashion, I will be here waiting for you to "dazzle me". Reallocate funds for Icelandic air fare to developing an integrated player input function in the UI. Then talk directly to the customers with polls to collect demographics and game preferences
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Uraniae Fehrnah
Viziam Amarr Empire
14
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Posted - 2011.12.19 21:54:00 -
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Mr. Cutter didn't dodge your question, he answered it. But rather than limit his answer solely to those people one would normally consider slaves he expanded it to include all peoples, because according to his faith we are all servants of God, toiling and working to the rhyme and reason of God's plan. If that answer is somehow not understood clearly then you would do well to ask for clarification rather than just dismiss what is said as an attempt to avoid your question.
As for my own previous response, I admit I must have glossed over that bit about you experimenting with slaves of various races and that without that small bit of information I took your words in an entirely different light. However, I still question the economics involved in providing for a troop of slaves versus simply buying the proper machinery. I also didn't see any need to cite any specific sources regarding the use of sleep deprivation and auditory bombardment as a method of conditioning people to be compliant. I assumed this sort of thing was considered common knowledge among any who managed to make it through capsuleer training that prisoners of war, criminals, and slaves throughout history have been subjected to such things on occasion.
Further, where exactly are you filing a patent request for this method? I do not imagine the Republic or Federation would grant patents for such a thing, the Empire wouldn't either as the source of your slave stock is considered illegal. The State perhaps, but again the issue of the long term economic sense of such a practice would come into question. |
Eternum Praetorian
Club Bear
118
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Posted - 2011.12.19 22:22:00 -
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Uraniae Fehrnah wrote:Mr. Cutter didn't dodge your question, he answered it. But rather than limit his answer solely to those people one would normally consider slaves he expanded it to include all peoples, because according to his faith we are all servants of God, toiling and working to the rhyme and reason of God's plan. If that answer is somehow not understood clearly then you would do well to ask for clarification rather than just dismiss what is said as an attempt to avoid your question.
He did not address my question. Thus he is full of ronto poodoo and so are you.
Either he or his friends hold slaves. Real ones and not philosophical ones... he made no mention of those in his "musings" (*cough word games) and that is what I was asking about. Reallocate funds for Icelandic air fare to developing an integrated player input function in the UI. Then talk directly to the customers with polls to collect demographics and game preferences
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Uraniae Fehrnah
Viziam Amarr Empire
14
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Posted - 2011.12.19 22:58:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote: I only assumed that economic reasons were why people like myself keep slaves, what other possible reason could there be?
Again, my mistake, I thought this was the question you were speaking of. |
Cassina Lemour
Staner Industries
25
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Posted - 2011.12.20 07:04:00 -
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The pain caused by Amarr Slavery requires justice, however slavery of Amarr in return is not the answer it is aberrant to any civilised woman. |
Ava Starfire
Teraa Matar
111
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Posted - 2011.12.20 11:28:00 -
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Delightful. I was just growing tired of shooting at only Amarrian slavers.
After all, I do promote equality. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
347
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Posted - 2011.12.26 01:28:00 -
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The best slaves come from the Federation.
Giving people some kind of vote, while controlling and corrupting the system that determines who you get to vote for, is the best deception you can have. You can get the people to vote for their own enslavements in all sorts of way, justifying encroachments on their rights and property for "needs" such as the "general welfare" and warfare. The people will happily think they are free while living a system that forges their chains. Some get to have better chains than others of course, and those who don't have good chains are encouraged to blame themselves. There are others who actually get to be the ones who put the chains on people and derive a living from that, and foster a system that justifies the whole thing.
Of course you won't get them onto your ship to pull on levers all day. That looks like actual slavery. But there is a system like that, and they happily pull all kinds of levers every day, never once knowing of the possibility that they are indeed slaves.
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Diana Kim
Wolfsbrigade
11
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Posted - 2011.12.27 13:00:00 -
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As it was said by one ancient philosopher, the true desire of a slave is not to get freedom, but to become master and to get his own slaves. |
Eternum Praetorian
Club Bear
121
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Posted - 2011.12.27 13:08:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Of course you won't get them onto your ship to pull on levers all day. That looks like actual slavery. But there is a system like that, and they happily pull all kinds of levers every day, never once knowing of the possibility that they are indeed slaves.
Whoever managed this is awesome!! I mean not a chain in sight? How did he get them to sit there all day and perform basic tasks. Maybe there were armed guards outside?
I'd bet they were threatening their families with being thrown out on the street, sickness and starvation. Yea I betcha! Well I guess that is one alternative to my now PATENTED technique. Oh yea baby! Reallocate funds for Icelandic air fare to developing an integrated player input function in the UI. Then talk directly to the customers with polls to collect demographics and game preferences
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