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Ragnar Haklar
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2016.01.09 00:11:01 -
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I got scammed by Wander fleet yesterday. go ahead and laugh....Ok here's what happened; I made a little corp,named it Bloodwolf Clan, got a few people to join, 5 all together: 4 new players and 1 veteran returning to the game . after about a week, Wander fleet declares war on us. I was ok with it,it happens. I informed the corp members, looked at Wanders war history, 12 wars, no kills/no loses. didn't worry about it at 1st. decided it would be best to close the corp, nothing discourages a new player like getting ganked by a better skilled/equpiped player. right after closing, Wanders ceo ask me to join him in a private chat, I oblige, he then informs me his is a 'mercinary' corp and has declared war on me on behalf of another corp, said I pissed this guy off good. tells me even if I or ant member leave the corp, we are still targets and any corp we jion will be wardec'd. then he informs me if I outbid the contract, he'll withdraw the wardec. I start to smell a scam...the contract is 350 mil. I have the ISK, paying off the contract would take 1/2 of my Isk.....so I pay it just to see who took out the contract. He gives me a name, ceo of a mining/indy corp/alliance. I contact this player, sure enough it was a scam, apparently Anaiah Ben-Gurion of Wander Fleet has used this player as a "false client' before, and he has an official complaint going with CCP on the matter. now , if he had come to me and said 'pay me not to kill you' it would have been different, Ive heard of that before. but to use another player like he did was wrong. So, to sum up, Wander Fleet= Wardec scammers, me = wiser player because of it... |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
7956
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Posted - 2016.01.09 00:18:31 -
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Sad Trombone..
Play it a second time when your petition comes back.
Gÿ+
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper: 'Hodor'.
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Paranoid Loyd
8108
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Posted - 2016.01.09 00:22:56 -
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Nice post. Of course hindsight is 20/20, but yeah no kills no losses 9 out of 10 times means scammer.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!
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Ragnar Haklar
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2016.01.09 00:25:43 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Sad Trombone.. Play it a second time when your petition comes back.
I dont have the petition with CCP, the person who's name was used as the contract holder does
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Ragnar Haklar
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2016.01.09 00:30:16 -
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And it's drittsekker like Wander Fleet that make it hard for players, like me, to get a corp going. |
Paranoid Loyd
8109
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Posted - 2016.01.09 00:37:00 -
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Ragnar Haklar wrote:And it's drittsekker like Wander Fleet that make it hard for players, like me, to get a corp going. It's not suppossed to be easy.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!
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Remiel Pollard
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
7331
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Posted - 2016.01.09 00:39:54 -
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Welcome to EVE Online and metagaming.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
7958
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Posted - 2016.01.09 01:00:12 -
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Ragnar Haklar wrote:Doc Fury wrote:Sad Trombone.. Play it a second time when their petition comes back. I dont have the petition with CCP, the person who's name was used as the contract holder does
Apologies. FIFY
Gÿ+
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper: 'Hodor'.
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Rykker Bow
The Scope
209
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Posted - 2016.01.09 01:02:15 -
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Yep, this is the game we know. The game we love.
Tough break mate.
The Mjolnir Bloc - Lowsec PvP for the sophisticated -
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ArmyOfMe
Hull Breach. Outnumbered.
550
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Posted - 2016.01.09 01:04:27 -
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Ragnar Haklar wrote:And it's drittsekker like Wander Fleet that make it hard for players, like me, to get a corp going. I see hva du gjorde der
QUOTE CCP Dolan and the EVE Online development team:-áThe battle was relatively even for some time with CFC and Russian forces holding moderate lead at first and only have a slight lead in Titan kills. Then came a turning point in the battle. Manfred Sideous, the initial Fleet Commander for PL/N3, handed over command to the CEO of Northern Coalition., Vince Draken
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Yourmoney Mywallet
Jita Institute of Applied Monetary Manipulation
787
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Posted - 2016.01.09 01:14:20 -
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If you'd like I can get someone to dec you properly? No need to pay me anything. |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance
7041
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Posted - 2016.01.09 01:19:17 -
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Ragnar Haklar wrote:I start to smell a scam...
Ragnar Haklar wrote:so I pay it just to see who took out the contract.
I don't know why, but this sequence of events still confounds me. Every damn time.
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Top Guac
Mexican Avacado Syndicate
92
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Posted - 2016.01.09 01:37:43 -
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Ragnar Haklar wrote:And it's drittsekker like Wander Fleet that make it hard for players, like me, to get a corp going. You had a Corp going. You are the one that made it hard because you decided to close it on the basis of your own fear/lack of knowledge.
By just closing the Corp you provided no opportunity for those new players to learn how to handle a wardec and I doubt, from your decision just to close, that you understand how either.
The problem for new players isn't the wardecs, it's terrible CEOs. |
Cristl
282
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Posted - 2016.01.09 01:41:15 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Ragnar Haklar wrote:I start to smell a scam... Ragnar Haklar wrote:so I pay it just to see who took out the contract. I don't know why, but this sequence of events still confounds me. Every damn time. I've called with plenty of poker hands I knew were in a bad spot just to satisfy curiosity. Especially after scotch o'clock. |
Pix Severus
Mew Age Outpaws
2001
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Posted - 2016.01.09 01:48:02 -
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Ragnar Haklar wrote:to use another player like he did was wrong.
Why?
My lord.
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Damjan Fox
Fox Industries and Exploration
212
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Posted - 2016.01.09 02:01:31 -
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Top Guac wrote:The problem for new players isn't the wardecs, it's terrible CEOs. ^What he said.
Proposal: >>> New Inventory / Item Hangar <<<
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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
2039
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Posted - 2016.01.09 03:06:38 -
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Ragnar Haklar wrote:nothing discourages a new player like getting ganked by a better skilled/equpiped player Actually according to CCP research, nothing puts off new players like shielding themselves (or being shielded) from other players.
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malcovas Henderson
THoF
454
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Posted - 2016.01.09 08:17:31 -
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Ragnar Haklar wrote:And it's drittsekker like Wander Fleet that make it hard for players, like me, to get a corp going. It's drittsekker like you that don't deserve to be in a corp. |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
4483
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Posted - 2016.01.09 09:41:58 -
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Pix Severus wrote:Ragnar Haklar wrote:to use another player like he did was wrong. Why?
Impersonating other players and/or CCP personnel breaks the EULA. In the case of players, the offence is maybe-ban level, in the case of CCP personel it's ALL-ACCOUNTS-CONCORDOKKEN level.
CCP Seagull: "EVE should be a universe where the infrastructure you build and fight over is as player driven and dynamic as the EVE market is now".
62% of players: "We're not interested. May we have Plan B, please?"
CCP Seagull: "What Plan B?"
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Alastair Ormand
Mine all the things
141
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Posted - 2016.01.09 09:53:31 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Nice post. Of course hindsight is 20/20, but yeah no kills no losses 9 out of 10 times means scammer. Eve is weird like that. That guy who has done nothing at all is usually the suspect lol.
I discourage running with scissors.
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Tessa McKnight
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
13
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Posted - 2016.01.09 10:09:41 -
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People worry too much about wardecs. I used to be one of those people. Then I joined a corp that gets wardecced fairly regularly, and to be honest it makes little difference. Even if you don't drop corp there are ways to avoid being easy prey. The worst that can happen is you lose your ship, and you know what they say: don't undock it if you can't afford to lose it. |
PsiMin
The Warp Core Stabilizers Tactical Narcotics Team
43
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Posted - 2016.01.09 10:26:51 -
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Ragnar Haklar wrote:I got scammed by Wander fleet yesterday. go ahead and laugh....Ok here's what happened; I made a little corp,named it Bloodwolf Clan, got a few people to join, 5 all together: 4 new players and 1 veteran returning to the game . after about a week, Wander fleet declares war on us. I was ok with it,it happens. I informed the corp members, looked at Wanders war history, 12 wars, no kills/no loses. didn't worry about it at 1st. decided it would be best to close the corp, nothing discourages a new player like getting ganked by a better skilled/equpiped player. right after closing, Wanders ceo ask me to join him in a private chat, I oblige, he then informs me his is a 'mercinary' corp and has declared war on me on behalf of another corp, said I pissed this guy off good. tells me even if I or ant member leave the corp, we are still targets and any corp we jion will be wardec'd. then he informs me if I outbid the contract, he'll withdraw the wardec. I start to smell a scam...the contract is 350 mil. I have the ISK, paying off the contract would take 1/2 of my Isk.....so I pay it just to see who took out the contract. He gives me a name, ceo of a mining/indy corp/alliance. I contact this player, sure enough it was a scam, apparently Anaiah Ben-Gurion of Wander Fleet has used this player as a "false client' before, and he has an official complaint going with CCP on the matter. now , if he had come to me and said 'pay me not to kill you' it would have been different, Ive heard of that before. but to use another player like he did was wrong. So, to sum up, Wander Fleet= Wardec scammers, me = wiser player because of it...
Hold on, you are telling me that there is a person in Eve trying to scam people. Dam I better had make a note of this for future reference. |
Leila Meurtrier
Why Am I Not Surprised
83
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Posted - 2016.01.09 11:14:01 -
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There is an old voodoo magic thingie for corp with tower, tailored for those carebears who just want to go full nope GÇö rondo. You create several more chars and learn corp management to them. Then you create corps for all of them. Got wardecced? Everyone but one insignificant alt is transferred to the sleeping corp, POS deployed on sleeping corp behalf, 50 mil goes down the drain. The only thing you lose is starting fees for the corps plus current jobs running. |
Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
2078
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Posted - 2016.01.09 14:02:04 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Pix Severus wrote:Ragnar Haklar wrote:to use another player like he did was wrong. Why? Impersonating other players and/or CCP personnel breaks the EULA. In the case of players, the offence is maybe-ban level, in the case of CCP personel it's ALL-ACCOUNTS-CONCORDOKKEN level. It is not a EULA violation to falsely claim you are acting on the behalf of another player. It is only verboten to claim you are the alt of someone else (or a CCP employee).
C'est dommage OP. You were out-played (by admittedly a pretty basic gambit). Dust yourself off and consider this a learning experience. |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
10158
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Posted - 2016.01.09 14:03:35 -
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This is actually quite an interesting idea. Thanks for the tip, OP!
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Ibutho Inkosi
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2016.01.09 18:46:59 -
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If this is meta gaming, I have a chimpanzee that would excel at this.
As long as the tale of the hunt is told by the hunter, and not the lion, it will favor the hunter.
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J'Poll
Perkone Caldari State
6175
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Posted - 2016.01.09 19:45:46 -
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Ragnar Haklar wrote:And it's drittsekker like Wander Fleet that make it hard for players, like me, to get a corp going.
Hahahaha
If you were truely good at starting and running a corp, a wardec wouldnt change it.
Just by folding at the first dec shows that you should not be running a corp
Eve shouldnt be easy.
If you want easy, go to the other mmos
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Tisiphone Dira
WiNGSPAN Academy for Enterprising Pilots The WINGSPAN Logo Alliance
572
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Posted - 2016.01.09 20:34:26 -
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And we're to take you on your word that the good and honourable wander fleet members who haven't hurt a fly are the scammers here? You have provided no proof, just besmirched their good name with wild accusations. I think we need to get to the bottom of this, I'm very suspicious of the OP now. |
Dilligafmofo
Sandman Plc
367
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Posted - 2016.01.10 09:36:23 -
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Please move to C&P so I may call for the court to be raced into session !!
Happy to sit on the jury for this one. |
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