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Akballah Kassan
Mosquito Squadron Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2016.01.10 17:11:57 -
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If they had any sense they would sit down and create 100 various colour schemes that can be applied to any ship. Make the skins cheap to buy - say a -ú1 per ship type skin.
Alliances and Corps could then pick a colour scheme as their 'kit' and players would buy the cheap skins with real money to look cool in their colours. For example Goonswarm could pick a yellow/black design as their colours and I'm sure a lot of line members would pay a nominal amount of real money to get the right coloured ships so their fleets look like a cool bee swarm!
Same with my alliance Mordus Angels, I'm sure a lot of our guys would pay a small amount of real life money to fly a decent silver/red combo. I would definitely spend -ú10 to fit 10 different ship hulls out in my alliance colours.
Also, if these skin buying people change corps and alliances they would almost certainly spent more money on kitting out their ships in the new Corp/alliance colours.
So CCP, give us cheap skins so alliance bro's are willing to spend a nominal amount of RL money to look cool in a specific 'kit'! Could be a nice little earner for them. |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2016.01.10 17:14:04 -
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Sounds dangerously like microtransactions
Kindly disembark
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
Bumble's Space Log
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Akballah Kassan
Mosquito Squadron Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2016.01.10 17:15:58 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Sounds dangerously like microtransactions
Kindly disembark
What's different from buying ship skins now? |
Jack Hayson
Atztech Inc. Ixtab.
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Posted - 2016.01.10 17:18:46 -
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Akballah Kassan wrote:Bumblefck wrote:Sounds dangerously like microtransactions
Kindly disembark What's different from buying ship skins now?
The micro part. |
Ibutho Inkosi
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.01.10 17:41:59 -
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You would call it a "livery". Trains got 'em. Race horses got 'em. Why, even NYC cabs have 'em. One of my favorites is The Burlington Northern Railway.
As long as the tale of the hunt is told by the hunter, and not the lion, it will favor the hunter.
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Jenn aSide
Ascendent. Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2016.01.10 17:45:22 -
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CCP is missing a trick when it comes to skins.
Back when the bug existed that let you put any skin on any ship, I joined an incursion fleet and saw a GOLD MACHARIEL right next to mine. It was beautiful. CCP soon fixed the "bug".
I don't give a flip about cosmetic things usually, but I could come out of pocket RIGHT NOW to be able to do that to my Machs. It's like CCP doesn't want any more money ... |
Akballah Kassan
Mosquito Squadron Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2016.01.10 19:11:13 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:CCP is missing a trick when it comes to skins.
Back when the bug existed that let you put any skin on any ship, I joined an incursion fleet and saw a GOLD MACHARIEL right next to mine. It was beautiful. CCP soon fixed the "bug".
I don't give a flip about cosmetic things usually, but I could come out of pocket RIGHT NOW to be able to do that to my Machs. It's like CCP doesn't want any more money ...
Same mate, I had no interest in ship skins till I saw some of the examples created by 'the bug'. I just think a fleet of ships all in the same 'livery' as mentioned above would look super cool. |
Akballah Kassan
Mosquito Squadron Mordus Angels
75
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Posted - 2016.01.10 19:16:29 -
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Jack Hayson wrote:Akballah Kassan wrote:Bumblefck wrote:Sounds dangerously like microtransactions
Kindly disembark What's different from buying ship skins now? The micro part.
And what real difference is their from using rl money to buy Aurum to purchase ship skins? It would just cut out the Aurum bit.
Hell keep it as it is then and use aurum to buy them but make them a lot cheaper and the same colours applicable to any ship type and I'm sure they would sell like hot cakes as alliance colours or livery. |
SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
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Posted - 2016.01.10 19:25:24 -
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Akballah Kassan wrote:
And what real difference is their from using rl money to buy Aurum to purchase ship skins? It would just cut out the Aurum bit.
WOOSH!
"Help, I'm bored with missions!"
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Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
842
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Posted - 2016.01.10 19:54:12 -
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Aurum can be gotten from plex is the difference so a person can farm/play for alliance skill licenses.
To quote Lfod Shi
The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
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Jack Hayson
Atztech Inc. Ixtab.
347
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Posted - 2016.01.10 20:01:45 -
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Akballah Kassan wrote:And what real difference is their from using rl money to buy Aurum to purchase ship skins? It would just cut out the Aurum bit
None.
What I meant was that there is nothing micro about the 20+ dollars we currently have to pay to turn a single grey ship hull into a ship with a slightly different grey color. |
Centis Adjani
Adjani Corporation
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Posted - 2016.01.10 21:03:13 -
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Is this Topic not better moved to Features and Ideas? |
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
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Posted - 2016.01.11 00:51:38 -
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This idea is quite a bit older than EVE's current ship skin implementation and has been posted at least 300 times, FYI.
Also, who the heck are Mordus Angels? |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
3944
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Posted - 2016.01.11 03:31:45 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:CCP is missing a trick when it comes to skins.
Back when the bug existed that let you put any skin on any ship, I joined an incursion fleet and saw a GOLD MACHARIEL right next to mine. It was beautiful. CCP soon fixed the "bug".
I don't give a flip about cosmetic things usually, but I could come out of pocket RIGHT NOW to be able to do that to my Machs. It's like CCP doesn't want any more money ...
CCP have always been deeply obsessed with its image as a company and the image of EVE as a product and whenever the subject of customization has been brought up CCP has always been quick to announce that they don't want players to be able to do silly things with customization features because that would not be in-keeping with the grimdark theme of the EVE universe. Such is the case with alliance logos and they've also said it in regard to ship skin customization before.
You want to pay CCP $30 to get your ship to look how you want it? Tough ****, CCP don't want your money if that means your ship is bright purple with gold trim or pink with luminous green polka dots.
When skins came out it instantly became apparent how much people actually want the ability to make their ships look however they want CCP absolutely could have, and should have, started work on a feature that allows you to design your own skin then slapped a whopping great price tag on it.
But their obsession with image won't allow that, because they cannot, under any circumstance allow you to fly though space in a gold spaceship because in the collective mind of CCP that would violate the sacred gimdark theme and they'd rather not have your money and deny you the satisfaction of flying a ship with the skin you want than do that.
It also doesn't help that most of the skins CCP comes out with look like absolute ass. |
MidnightWyvern
Night Theifs
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Posted - 2016.01.11 03:36:16 -
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SurrenderMonkey wrote:Akballah Kassan wrote:
And what real difference is their from using rl money to buy Aurum to purchase ship skins? It would just cut out the Aurum bit.
WOOSH! Someone reads XKCD.
_#portDust514
Don't let interactions like this become only a memory.
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Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
863
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Posted - 2016.01.11 05:56:30 -
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who cares about skins anyway, no one can see those usually, people zoom out and skins are useless.
why to bother. |
LordInvisible
Nova Ardour Mafia Horde
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Posted - 2016.01.11 08:48:21 -
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Skins? |
Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
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Posted - 2016.01.11 11:47:32 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:they cannot, under any circumstance allow you to fly though space in a gold spaceship because in the collective mind of CCP that would violate the sacred gimdark theme But..... Amarr! Are they all heretics?
Quote:grimdark theme of the EVE universe But... what about grimdark theme of CCP internal financial report? Do they like it that way?
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MidnightWyvern
Night Theifs
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Posted - 2016.01.11 13:15:52 -
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Akballah Kassan wrote:If they had any sense they would sit down and create 100 various colour schemes that can be applied to any ship. Make the skins cheap to buy - say a -ú1 per ship type skin.
Alliances and Corps could then pick a colour scheme as their 'kit' and players would buy the cheap skins with real money to look cool in their colours. For example Goonswarm could pick a yellow/black design as their colours and I'm sure a lot of line members would pay a nominal amount of real money to get the right coloured ships so their fleets look like a cool bee swarm!
Same with my alliance Mordus Angels, I'm sure a lot of our guys would pay a small amount of real life money to fly a decent silver/red combo. I would definitely spend -ú10 to fit 10 different ship hulls out in my alliance colours.
Also, if these skin buying people change corps and alliances they would almost certainly spent more money on kitting out their ships in the new Corp/alliance colours.
So CCP, give us cheap skins so alliance bro's are willing to spend a nominal amount of RL money to look cool in a specific 'kit'! Could be a nice little earner for them. You did see that one clip they showed either last year or the year before at FanFest with the "Custom SKIN" prototype, right?
We're eventually going to be able to create our own color schemes and apply logos to our ships.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2016.01.11 14:03:51 -
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MidnightWyvern wrote:We're eventually going to be able to create our own color schemes and apply logos to our ships. SoonGäó.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Odd Jupiter
Gallente Landscaping Corporation
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Posted - 2016.01.11 14:46:09 -
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I'd say learn from DOTA 2
Let people in the community create their own models/skins post them on the forum with votes, and implement the top voted.
The ships will have to be easily recognized, so the only thing ccp need to do, is to see if they are within a certain standard..
The creator of the skin/model gets a percentage of the earnings for the sales of the skin.
- CCP get money for no work at all
- The creator get a small fee, and can see he's/her creations flying around.
- The players will get a variety of skins to buy
Win win win |
Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
2368
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Posted - 2016.01.11 16:44:13 -
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MidnightWyvern wrote:You did see that one clip they showed either last year or the year before at FanFest with the "Custom SKIN" prototype, right?
We're eventually going to be able to create our own color schemes and apply logos to our ships. It was a time, when developers created their internal tool, and presented it to people, and they warned us: Implementation would look differently. And we got it as they said, differently, with SKINs separately for every one particular ship. And people were indecisive and many said: "..meh", and many were angry because it was all overpriced.
Then The Savior found Holy Bug in the code, and with it he colored every ship with single SKIN. Truly magnificent and miraculouus was this Holy Bug. The Savior posted a thread in Reddit for all to see the glory of that Holy Bug. And people said: Truly he is our Savior, and CCP should embrace the Holy Bug into their code, as it is the greatest feature in a long time. Then more people logged in to see how their ship would look like, and they used the Holy Bug for their joy and entertainment, and it was all good. But then CCP bringed a patch and applied it, and killed the Holy Bug, and then the weeping and the gnashing of teeth, everywhere: on Reddit and EVE forums, was heard.
And it was a time when players learned that over developers in CCP rules ruthless Microtransaction Manager, clothed in 1000$ jeans, and he believes in Greed is Good. And he defiles with greed every SKIN they make, and he does that with his unholy, monocled eye.
And to this time he rules over them all, developers and players.
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Maximillian Bonaparte
Interstellar Booty Hunters
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Posted - 2016.01.11 19:08:43 -
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Incidentally just posted an idea similar to this in idea and features. I understand why ccp wants to keep the theme of eve with skins that are not all over the place like in star trek online.
However if there were some minimal customizable features like pinstripes, flame patterns, a jolly roger perhaps or pirate variant skins but not go sofar as to ruin the scheme of the ship.
And then to make a corp skin...purchased from thd corp wallet and available to corp members on the fitting window. ..to give corps a theme or point of pride while watching their custom skinned ships fleet warp together into battle! Incentive to players to leave the nnpc corp and join a real one...
Perhaps make pirate skins only available to pirate corps with lots of neg sec status etc. Man I would recruit based on this alone if it were a feature! |
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
568
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Posted - 2016.01.11 21:17:42 -
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Nana Skalski wrote: But..... Amarr! Are they all heretics?
You're confused. Amarr are the true believers. It's everyone else that are heretics.
Really, just have a submission process for player designed skins. If players are paying for it, then it will cover the price of having a GM examine it to make sure they aren't making fuchsia Armageddons.
My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
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Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
2370
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Posted - 2016.01.11 21:31:16 -
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Yes, the sacred grimdark theme have power of confusion. I am too weak to oppose it on my own.
Amarrians somehow opposed it with their pure hearts, but for how long they will oppose it until they too become the grimdark theme servants?!
The power of ruthless Microtransaction Manager is growing!
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