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demalayne
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Posted - 2007.01.24 15:42:00 -
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hi their, this has probably been addressed elsewhere, and i have searched the warp option an gone thru most ov that.
anyhow, im trying to understand how not to b warp disrupted, as it has happened a number ov times now. there are scramblers that blitz nav computer, diruptors that blitz warp core and warp bubbles to drop u out ov warp. now do u need a different piece of kit and consequent skills to use it to deffend against each? does a warp core stabiliser work against all? does emc white noise help - as if they cant lock on they cont disrupt/scramble u? do both stack/work together? does maxing out the skill in the relative kit - warp core op or energy emissions- make it more dificult to be warp disrupted/scrambled? i had a wcs fitted and white noise generator but was still scrambld/disrupted and shot to frak... so wot am i missing>? wot am i not getting?
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Matalino
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.01.24 15:51:00 -
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Edited by: Matalino on 24/01/2007 15:51:17 Warp Core scramblers and disrupters are countered by Warp core stabilizers. This works on a point system. If you have more points of scramble on you than stab on you, you are not going any where. Stabilizers have the side effect of reducing targeting range and increasing the time needed to lock on.
As you noted, if they can't lock you they can't scramble you. So ECM can be used to break their scamble. If you can get out of range (approx 20 km) you can also get free. Of course killing them is also effective.
Warp disruption/Interdictor bubbles cannot be countered with any module. Avoidance in the main stratagy for dealing with them.
Quote: i had a wcs fitted and white noise generator but was still scrambld/disrupted and shot to frak... so wot am i missing>? wot am i not getting?
If they had you out numbered they probably had you out scrambled. At best you can fit 8 stabalisers. It is not too hard for a gate camp to hit you with 9 points of scramble. ECM modules are chance based. If you didn't break enough locks, they will still keep you scrambled. If they were using a bubble (only possible in 0.0) then none of that helps anyway.
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Vasiliyan
PAX Interstellar Services Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.24 16:03:00 -
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There is no counter to bubbles - you have to get out of the bubble, possibly by jumping through the jumpgate if you can get to it.
You need one WCS for every "point" of scramble people have on you. Shortrange scramblers count for two points, longrange scramblers (disruptors) are one point. The Warp drive skill does not affect this. Scramblers and disruptors are basically the same kind of thing.
ECM can work, I've used it before to that effect, although you should bear in mind: - you need to lock the ship scrambling you and activate ECM on it - ECM is chance-based and may not succeed. Skills help (energy emissions is not one of them) - once you have fired the ECM you may not use a jumpgate or dock for 30 seconds, even if it fails. - after the ECM nerf chances of success with a single jammer on a non-ECM ship are low. - Spelling "of" correctly improves your chances of success.
Generally the way to avoid being scrambled is not to be there, which requires practice and scouting.
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demalayne
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Posted - 2007.01.24 16:55:00 -
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cheerz for gettin bak t me on this. ya i realised after posting the emissions skill was d rong wun...but u knew wot i ment...
btw: in termz ov spelling i am an english lecturer across europe and so hav studied language, grama and such an its usage long enuf t qualify me t do wot i want with it with impunity... also ov phonetically would b the correct spelling ov of lol
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GC13
Caldari Derelik Trading Company
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Posted - 2007.01.24 17:32:00 -
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English lecturer or not, I still have to make that DC 25 will save to not fly into a berserk rage every time I read a post like that.
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Kogame Tomika
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.01.24 17:33:00 -
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Perhaps, but if you are an English Lecturer, you should know that communication is much easier when you can actually understand what the other person is saying. And being an 'expert' in someting does not grant you the right to do what you want with it with impunity...
Back on point, and a question for those posting responses. Is there any sort of formula for which types of ECM to use. I realize that is a very noobish question, but I am just getting into ECM a bit (though I may just circumvent the whole thing with a cloak :) ) and am trying to build a relatively reliable "get away from bad pirates" ship.
Quote: Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. Martin Luther King Jr.
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demalayne
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Posted - 2007.01.24 17:58:00 -
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warning do not take a fence: yay off point: chek out d grama lingo ****s, an dey tell me language iz changin an livin .... being a social linguist psychologist az well i lov watchin peoples reactions t language use, it becomes v personal v quickly az lang iz so closely wrapped with notions of self id and constructionz ov wot iz right n wrong an people become moral fast, note the linguistic constructionz used in the above posts addressing lang, use n right t use it. mad altogether n sp much ov it unconcious. right ok sorry this aint a social studies forum so il stop now, tho i guess ye r gonna watch fer me in game an take it out on me in rapid fire staccato form usin missiles disruptors n such, so c ye there... an dont let d liddle bitso me ship scratch the paint work ov yerz on d way out.... will say no more on dis.
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Cors
Gallente Shadow Of The Light R i s e
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Posted - 2007.01.24 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: GC13 English lecturer or not, I still have to make that DC 25 will save to not fly into a berserk rage every time I read a post like that.
WOOT!!! Fair Travels! Cors
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Billy Sastard
Amarr Zephyr Enterprises Inc. Astral Wolves
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Posted - 2007.01.24 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: demalayne warning do not take a fence: yay off point: chek out d grama lingo ****s, an dey tell me language iz changin an livin .... being a social linguist psychologist az well i lov watchin peoples reactions t language use, it becomes v personal v quickly az lang iz so closely wrapped with notions of self id and constructionz ov wot iz right n wrong an people become moral fast, note the linguistic constructionz used in the above posts addressing lang, use n right t use it. mad altogether n sp much ov it unconcious. right ok sorry this aint a social studies forum so il stop now, tho i guess ye r gonna watch fer me in game an take it out on me in rapid fire staccato form usin missiles disruptors n such, so c ye there... an dont let d liddle bitso me ship scratch the paint work ov yerz on d way out.... will say no more on dis.
WTF... -=^=-
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Reincarnator
Amarr Brute Force Missions inc
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Posted - 2007.01.24 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: demalayne warning do not take a fence: yay off point: chek out d grama lingo ****s, an dey tell me language iz changin an livin .... being a social linguist psychologist az well i lov watchin peoples reactions t language use, it becomes v personal v quickly az lang iz so closely wrapped with notions of self id and constructionz ov wot iz right n wrong an people become moral fast, note the linguistic constructionz used in the above posts addressing lang, use n right t use it. mad altogether n sp much ov it unconcious. right ok sorry this aint a social studies forum so il stop now, tho i guess ye r gonna watch fer me in game an take it out on me in rapid fire staccato form usin missiles disruptors n such, so c ye there... an dont let d liddle bitso me ship scratch the paint work ov yerz on d way out.... will say no more on dis.
/brain asplodes
Originally by: Spy4Hire
Hate to say it, but ECM is not really 'chance' based. It is guranteed to work, but not every time.
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Asestorian
Minmatar Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.01.24 22:13:00 -
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I have no real reaction to your spelling or the way you are typing all that stuff. I just find it extremely difficult to read, and therefore I find it extremely difficult to help you because I don't really understand what you are saying. Not that you need much help now (well, I don't think so anyway, difficult to tell ) because it seems your questions have been answered.
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Strak Yogorn
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.01.24 22:54:00 -
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posts like that are just insta-ignored ... might consider that as a fact next time you ask for help or whatever...
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Vasiliyan
PAX Interstellar Services Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.25 00:25:00 -
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Originally by: demalayne warning do not take a fence: yay off point: chek out d grama lingo ****s, an dey tell me language iz changin an livin .... being a social linguist psychologist az well i lov watchin peoples reactions t language use, it becomes v personal v quickly az lang iz so closely wrapped with notions of self id and constructionz ov wot iz right n wrong an people become moral fast, note the linguistic constructionz used in the above posts addressing lang, use n right t use it. mad altogether n sp much ov it unconcious. right ok sorry this aint a social studies forum so il stop now, tho i guess ye r gonna watch fer me in game an take it out on me in rapid fire staccato form usin missiles disruptors n such, so c ye there... an dont let d liddle bitso me ship scratch the paint work ov yerz on d way out.... will say no more on dis.
This is the most innovative form of griefing I have seen in this game so far. Congratulations. Now go ghoti.
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EffBee Primus
Caldari DCS Ltd
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Posted - 2007.01.25 00:31:00 -
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I dn't thnk OP s a lctrr r xpert n ny lngstc mttr t ll. Fr evdnce jst lk t th psts. Th bg mlti syllbl dffclt wrds r gnrlly OK - th OP s prud t b abl t us thm nd wnts s t knw hw clvr nd edctd h/sh s. Th OP s knd enogh t ony mss wit th smplr stff we por fols cn undrstnd. Proud to be a CareBear |
Samantha Hope
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Posted - 2007.01.25 15:06:00 -
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Originally by: demalayne warning do not take a fence: yay off point: chek out d grama lingo ****s, an dey tell me language iz changin an livin .... being a social linguist psychologist az well i lov watchin peoples reactions t language use, it becomes v personal v quickly az lang iz so closely wrapped with notions of self id and constructionz ov wot iz right n wrong an people become moral fast, note the linguistic constructionz used in the above posts addressing lang, use n right t use it. mad altogether n sp much ov it unconcious. right ok sorry this aint a social studies forum so il stop now, tho i guess ye r gonna watch fer me in game an take it out on me in rapid fire staccato form usin missiles disruptors n such, so c ye there... an dont let d liddle bitso me ship scratch the paint work ov yerz on d way out.... will say no more on dis.
I couldn't even read that pile of drivel.
Please speak properly. If you're an english lecturer speaking to your students and teaching them this, then they're getting ripped off.
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MrTriggerHappy
Caldari Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.01.25 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: demalayne warning do not take a fence: yay off point: chek out d grama lingo ****s, an dey tell me language iz changin an livin .... being a social linguist psychologist az well i lov watchin peoples reactions t language use, it becomes v personal v quickly az lang iz so closely wrapped with notions of self id and constructionz ov wot iz right n wrong an people become moral fast, note the linguistic constructionz used in the above posts addressing lang, use n right t use it. mad altogether n sp much ov it unconcious. right ok sorry this aint a social studies forum so il stop now, tho i guess ye r gonna watch fer me in game an take it out on me in rapid fire staccato form usin missiles disruptors n such, so c ye there... an dont let d liddle bitso me ship scratch the paint work ov yerz on d way out.... will say no more on dis.
*head explodes*
Yeah your an english lecturer and I'm the King of Scotland..
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Benglada
Infinitus Odium Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.25 18:10:00 -
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Edited by: Benglada on 25/01/2007 18:06:38
Originally by: demalayn warning do not take a fence: yay off point: chek out d grama lingo ****s, an dey tell me language iz changin an livin .... being a social linguist psychologist az well i lov watchin peoples reactions t language use, it becomes v personal v quickly az lang iz so closely wrapped with notions of self id and constructionz ov wot iz right n wrong an people become moral fast,(WTF?) (T note the linguistic construction used in the above posts addressing lang, use n right t use it. mad altogether n sp much ov it unconcious. right ok sorry this aint a social studies forum so il stop now, tho i guess ye r gonna watch fer me in game an take it out on me in rapid fire staccato form usin missiles disruptors n such, so c ye there... an dont let d liddle bitso me ship scratch the paint work ov yerz on d way out....(WTF?) will say no more on dis.
I edited your spelling mistakes, and most of your grammar mistakes, i was going to highlight the things that didnt make sense, but then id have to bold it all.
If you spoke like you write i would most likely punch you. in the face. ---------------------------
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