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NeverL Enterprise Estonia Cult of War	Posted - 2007.01.29 12:12:00 - [271] Originally by: Shiwan Khan Sweet, i loose my tempest to LV because of their EXPLOIT two days before this and they they their petition answered first....sweet.... Battlecruiser141154 Battleship119154 Command ship1114 Cruiser 163140 Heavy assault2314 http://killboard.curse-alliance.net/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=121 alliance that is loosing in their own killboard shouldnt cry about the fact that they are unable to kill stuff.
Omeega Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.01.29 12:49:00 - [272] Originally by: NeverL Originally by: Shiwan Khan Sweet, i loose my tempest to LV because of their EXPLOIT two days before this and they they their petition answered first....sweet.... Battlecruiser141154 Battleship119154 Command ship1114 Cruiser 163140 Heavy assault2314 http://killboard.curse-alliance.net/?a=alliance_detail&all_id=121 alliance that is loosing in their own killboard shouldnt cry about the fact that they are unable to kill stuff. hey, what about corps leaving alliances due to the alliance's soon-to-come collapsing? Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Sean Dillon Caldari LEGI0N	Posted - 2007.01.29 13:16:00 - [273] Originally by: Garia666 Edited by: Garia666 on 29/01/2007 09:34:45 Reading all these posts I never realized People hated LV so much. I can understand from RA and the GOON`s as it has a long history. However i do not understand it from some other sides. Anyway it doesnt matter. We lost a big battle .. true howeve we havent lost the war. Respect for all involved See you in space You lost the war 6 months ago, LV will be dead by end this year. Reason? They didnt help their allies out when they could, now they stand alone against the red army.
NeverL Enterprise Estonia Cult of War	Posted - 2007.01.29 13:27:00 - [274] Originally by: Omeega hey, what about corps leaving alliances due to the alliance's soon-to-come collapsing? i dont follow, plz explain.
Obivan Efa The Machines	Posted - 2007.01.29 14:37:00 - [275] Edited by: Obivan Efa on 29/01/2007 14:41:38 Edited by: Obivan Efa on 29/01/2007 14:34:18 I just wonder... How can it be that some pilot's petitioned ships replaced almost instantly and other pilots have unanswered petitions for weeks? All pilots in EVE are equal, but some are "more equal" then the others? P.S. RA, Goons and Allies are good. Even lag can't stop them. ____________________________ Die, but perish! - viking's war-cry
Cupdeez Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.29 15:06:00 - [276] Originally by: Obivan Efa Edited by: Obivan Efa on 29/01/2007 14:41:38 Edited by: Obivan Efa on 29/01/2007 14:34:18 I just wonder... How can it be that some pilot's petitioned ships replaced almost instantly and other pilots have unanswered petitions for weeks? All pilots in EVE are equal, but some are "more equal" then the others? P.S. RA, Goons and Allies are good. Even lag can't stop them. Well when you have a few GM's in your alliance and you take a 30 Billion isk lose in 45mins you need that replaced fast before you lose the system for good. agent missions runner loss < 16 Deads lost hahhaha Signature filesize exceeds max limit of 24000 bytes. Mail us if you have questions -Eldo Davip
Omeega Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.01.29 15:34:00 - [277] Originally by: Cupdeez ... Man, a GM won't save your alliance. P.ex (please Diana, BL, Thol, DBP, Hast...) don't be mad at me : Admitting that BOB had GMs >in< their alliance (influencing results - introducing exploits/bugs etc) well it makes them go from 75% efficient to 80%. For LV it's a bit harder, you start at 0.5% and end up at 5.5%, still makes you worse than my drunken bear stearing at this screen. Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Radioactive Babe Red Frost	Posted - 2007.01.29 15:46:00 - [278] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: ElweSingollo In answer it affects everyone a different way cheack out these pics.... http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Lancer/There_is_no_Fleet.jpg wow lookie a seemingly empty gate A few minutes later after the battle http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Lancer/LifeSaver.gif In that situation I was screwed cause I couldn't seee anything but once the battle had stopped could see fin and this was with fairly lower numbers. You do realise that there is a clock visible in the bottom left of screen Those 2 pictures are neary 40mins apart....not a few mins like you suggest. So, a fleet warped to a gate an hour after you screen shot it...absolutely scandalous hehehehe .... But lagtastic battles are no fun, and one of the main reasons I left 0.0 blobiness. I hope ALL players who lost ships due to lag get them back Alas, poor risk vs reward, I knew you well
Velios M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.01.29 15:52:00 - [279] Such venom! I wonder what reason you have for such a hateful post. Fact is that from my point of view you are completely wrong about LV. And we have only ever tried our best to help those that we considered friends. Lets start at the beginning... KOS : LV won KOS's space for them and on two or three separate occasions we were called in to help them retake stations that they were incapable of holding properly on their own. KOS was (as we now know) a disorganised alliance that should have admitted to LV right off the bat that is was not capable of justifying the claim it was so keen to put on Insmother. Despite this, for at least 3 months LV propped KOS up and came to their aid repeatedly. Alas, something had to give and over time support for KOS wained in LV. If they cannot help themselves after many months of support why continue. Aside from Military support for KOS, LV also provided in the region of 30 full Large deathstar setups for KOS. None of this was ever repaid, and the day that KOS did a "secret" deal with RA behind our backs, LV lost patience with KOS and sent them packing. OK, Next... ERA : ERA came from the north off the back of a heavy defeat by D2 I believe. They wanted to establish themselves in Cache and because we had known Suas and BOS from our days in the FIVE we were MORE than happy to assist ERA in their new dream. LV helped ERA conquer Cache in one single weekend and they were quickly installed as region owners, forcing RA back into Insmother and beyond. LV also relinquished Sov in the key Cache system of P7- (Which Italian LV corp ILN had successfully held for over 1 month) Internally though, ERA began to fall apart for reasons unknown to me. Major corps inside that alliance left and ERA were unable to lock that region down as they had assured LV that they would do so before moving in. LV, hand on heart would never have gone ahead with ERA's plans on Cache if we honestly didn't believe they had the muscle to live their in their own right. For that matter, no alliance deserves to be I'm 0.0 if they cannot hold that space on their own merits! So, LV once again was blamed for not breast feeding another so-called friendly alliance, who since has robbed us of about 20 billion in unrecovered Large POS towers (which we even freighted to Cache for them!) and has also directly joined the GoonSwarm, just to add insult to injury. OK, Next... Veritas -V- V were a VERY powerful alliance, spearheaded by Light Darkness they were potent on the battlefield. V had been friends of LV since the start and we had great relations with them until the day they died. Why did V die? Well putting two outposts down smack bang in the middle of VERY hostile space was the start of it. Holding territory of that magnitude was a new experience for V and despite their best efforts, and the best efforts of LV as well, they could not hold out against the relentless tide. Why wasn't LV able to help them more? All I will say is that we hand on heart, did everything we could. Fighting for the third time in foreign lands took it's toll on LV and critical strontium errors proved to be the opening of the wound that would eventually cost V their outpost systems. I was disappointed to see V corps join CA recently, and in their first action as a new alliance turn against LV. But that's happened and we will treat them like any other enemy. So that's the story as I personally see it from within LV. Now WE are the ones facing a direct threat to our territory in the form of RA / Goon / CA / IAC & Tau Ceti. What's more, everyone seems out to get us for some great crime we are supposed to have committed. Well bring it on I say. It is refreshing now that the veil between us and our true enemies is lifted, and for the first time in our short history as an alliance we get to show what we are capable of and fight directly for our own territory. Our enemies have united LV in a way that no other could. M.Corp BPC Packages
Garia666 Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.01.29 16:25:00 - [280] Originally by: Sean Dillon Originally by: Garia666 Edited by: Garia666 on 29/01/2007 09:34:45 Reading all these posts I never realized People hated LV so much. I can understand from RA and the GOON`s as it has a long history. However i do not understand it from some other sides. Anyway it doesnt matter. We lost a big battle .. true howeve we havent lost the war. Respect for all involved See you in space You lost the war 6 months ago, LV will be dead by end this year. Reason? They didnt help their allies out when they could, now they stand alone against the red army. I will take a minute to comment to this. These are harsh accusations, made by someone i never even heard of. I can tell you that LV has always helped its allies. And a bit to much if you ask me. Many of you`r so called allies backstabbed LV.. Or couldn`t held there own space with out LV and then backstabbed LV. Not the other way around. I can tell you that LV can keep it`s face up high it has honor and decency. They do not brake there word or agreement. Things you don't find much now a day`s.. ->My Vids<- CCP= More skilz more moneh!
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2007.01.29 16:40:00 - [281] Edited by: Plutoinum on 29/01/2007 16:37:40 Nice post from Velios. GL. ( Strange, Firefox doesn't like this thread. Thread has 9 pages, but after I go to page9, it's shows only 8 pages and then I can only jump between 1...8 , 9 doesn't show up anymore. Dunno, it's not the 1st thread where this happens /edit: Lol, now it works again after this post.) ______________ Originally by: Patch86 Combat in EVE is non-consensual. Unlike most games, EVE, by design, forces you to be ready for violence everywhere-even hi-sec space.
Omeega Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.01.29 16:50:00 - [282] Edited by: Omeega on 29/01/2007 16:46:39 Originally by: Plutoinum Edited by: Plutoinum on 29/01/2007 16:37:40 Nice post from Velios. GL. ( Strange, Firefox doesn't like this thread. Thread has 9 pages, but after I go to page9, it's shows only 8 pages and then I can only jump between 1...8 , 9 doesn't show up anymore. Dunno, it's not the 1st thread where this happens /edit: Lol, now it works again after this post.) same here! my life is useless now :( btw Velios, get your facts straight. From our point of view RA never left cache, at the most harsh times we were in Konora while you were having fun spamming POS through Cache, knowing very well that you will not be able to hold RA's HQ any longer. We had daily raids through those "so-called-claimed-regions" and you could do NOTHING about this, appart for one time a nice and sweet blob who mixed 5's v's and UKcorp (the carebear corp brought as a meatshield to firstly try to populate Cache who, even if they couldn't fit ships, were very good at smacking in local) So, from every part you lost. You said ERA couldn't hold Cache anyways but still gave them the equivalant of few billions worth of POS, hoping that they'd occupy us. Wich part am I missing? Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Gokil MetaForge Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.01.29 17:01:00 - [283] Originally by: Sean Dillon You lost the war 6 months ago, LV will be dead by end this year. Reason? They didnt help their allies out when they could, now they stand alone against the red army. So true. Now all the "leaders" of LV will say they are all lies as they consistently retreat. They wonder how isolating, then letting their friends get annihilated will not come back to them. Now, NAP BoB to stay alive. T H E K E Y
Amerame Section XIII	Posted - 2007.01.29 17:03:00 - [284] Originally by: Velios ... You forgot to explain how you also did your best for a few other alliances, like ISS, Maestrom, Ghost of Retribution, Chimera Pact, ASCN... and the list goes on.
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2007.01.29 17:29:00 - [285] Edited by: Plutoinum on 29/01/2007 17:34:37 Originally by: Amerame Originally by: Velios ... You forgot to explain how you also did your best for a few other alliances, like ISS, Maestrom, Ghost of Retribution, Chimera Pact, ASCN... and the list goes on. Well, Ghost of Retribution ? You know that RA brought them to Cache and that Ghost of Retribution then felt left alone there by RA, when LV+others attacked them ? Ghost of Retribution thought they'd fight with RA, but then they felt that they had to do the fighting alone there while most of RA was carebearing. Finally they switched sides and shot RA. And after some weeks/months (?) they left the area. ( edit: Think it was Cache. m53 or something ? Have been there not often since those days. Why they finally left/had to leave, no idea. ) ______________ Originally by: Patch86 Combat in EVE is non-consensual. Unlike most games, EVE, by design, forces you to be ready for violence everywhere-even hi-sec space.
Percival Diddly Unscoped Myriad Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.29 17:37:00 - [286] Ghosts didnt leave the area, it was handed over to ERA and we took the chance well the main corps in the alliance took the chance for a fresh start in a new allinace under new leadership, Unscoped joined that alliance and it was in alot of trouble left right and centre and had no real purpose after trying to pull it together the conclusion was well take the corps we can and we'll start fresh with new goals and new structure. 8 months on 3 corps that left ghosts are in myriad the others went there own way back to empire mostly. but by any and all means LV helped that alliance, Unscoped didnt see much of it we joined in the last 2-3 weeks of it's life by which point ERA were moving into the area. but LV had dropped ALOT of help to ghosts and continued to do so untill we folded it to start fresh. _____________________________________________
Ardpirate M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.01.29 17:41:00 - [287] Originally by: Omeega Edited by: Omeega on 29/01/2007 16:46:39 Originally by: Plutoinum Edited by: Plutoinum on 29/01/2007 16:37:40 Nice post from Velios. GL. ( Strange, Firefox doesn't like this thread. Thread has 9 pages, but after I go to page9, it's shows only 8 pages and then I can only jump between 1...8 , 9 doesn't show up anymore. Dunno, it's not the 1st thread where this happens /edit: Lol, now it works again after this post.) same here! my life is useless now :( btw Velios, get your facts straight. From our point of view RA never left cache, at the most harsh times we were in Konora while you were having fun spamming POS through Cache, knowing very well that you will not be able to hold RA's HQ any longer. We had daily raids through those "so-called-claimed-regions" and you could do NOTHING about this, appart for one time a nice and sweet blob who mixed 5's v's and UKcorp (the carebear corp brought as a meatshield to firstly try to populate Cache who, even if they couldn't fit ships, were very good at smacking in local) So, from every part you lost. You said ERA couldn't hold Cache anyways but still gave them the equivalant of few billions worth of POS, hoping that they'd occupy us. Wich part am I missing? you must spend too much time on these forums and not enough time ingame if that's your perspective of historical events the time ur talkng about was sept 05 and mcorp and mule sin from shinra removed RA and FSA from cache but that was a diffrent alliance so wont fill you in on the parts you missed p.s. whats ur RA characters names? oh nvm il check the plexes to find out
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.29 17:43:00 - [288] Originally by: Omeega Wich part am I missing? hmm...left side?....am i right? ...no? me, myself and I ------>
Cupdeez Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.29 18:15:00 - [289] Edited by: Cupdeez on 29/01/2007 18:12:45 Originally by: Garia666 Originally by: Sean Dillon Originally by: Garia666 Edited by: Garia666 on 29/01/2007 09:34:45 Reading all these posts I never realized People hated LV so much. I can understand from RA and the GOON`s as it has a long history. However i do not understand it from some other sides. Anyway it doesnt matter. We lost a big battle .. true howeve we havent lost the war. Respect for all involved See you in space You lost the war 6 months ago, LV will be dead by end this year. Reason? They didnt help their allies out when they could, now they stand alone against the red army. I will take a minute to comment to this. These are harsh accusations, made by someone i never even heard of. I can tell you that LV has always helped its allies. And a bit to much if you ask me. Many of you`r so called allies backstabbed LV.. Or couldn`t held there own space with out LV and then backstabbed LV. Not the other way around. I can tell you that LV can keep it`s face up high it has honor and decency. They do not brake there word or agreement. Things you don't find much now a day`s.. Maybe you should talk with some of the bigger corps in your alliance about backstabbing cause they do it all so well. The only reason LV helpped -v- and M was because if RA,Goon,CA, and the rest of us got control of the systems it would make life very difficult for LV. LV is not dumb they knew it would be very difficult to hold control over the current space with friendies controling the space in-between there space. LV is trying very hard to defend its current systems under attack but if only they spend more time/money trying to help there friends we would not be going after LV right now. This is just my .02 cents. I could be 100% wrong about this. Signature filesize exceeds max limit of 24000 bytes. Mail us if you have questions -Eldo Davip
dfgdfgerdv	Posted - 2007.01.29 18:30:00 - [290] Originally by: Cupdeez Edited by: Cupdeez on 29/01/2007 18:12:45 Originally by: Garia666 Originally by: Sean Dillon Originally by: Garia666 Edited by: Garia666 on 29/01/2007 09:34:45 Reading all these posts I never realized People hated LV so much. I can understand from RA and the GOON`s as it has a long history. However i do not understand it from some other sides. Anyway it doesnt matter. We lost a big battle .. true howeve we havent lost the war. Respect for all involved See you in space You lost the war 6 months ago, LV will be dead by end this year. Reason? They didnt help their allies out when they could, now they stand alone against the red army. I will take a minute to comment to this. These are harsh accusations, made by someone i never even heard of. I can tell you that LV has always helped its allies. And a bit to much if you ask me. Many of you`r so called allies backstabbed LV.. Or couldn`t held there own space with out LV and then backstabbed LV. Not the other way around. I can tell you that LV can keep it`s face up high it has honor and decency. They do not brake there word or agreement. Things you don't find much now a day`s.. Maybe you should talk with some of the bigger corps in your alliance about backstabbing cause they do it all so well. The only reason LV helpped -v- and M was because if RA,Goon,CA, and the rest of us got control of the systems it would make life very difficult for LV. LV is not dumb they knew it would be very difficult to hold control over the current space with friendies controling the space in-between there space. LV is trying very hard to defend its current systems under attack but if only they spend more time/money trying to help there friends we would not be going after LV right now. This is just my .02 cents. I could be 100% wrong about this. You are 100% wrong.
Bellon Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.01.29 18:42:00 - [291] Originally by: Cupdeez Edited by: Cupdeez on 29/01/2007 18:12:45 Originally by: Garia666 Originally by: Sean Dillon Originally by: Garia666 Edited by: Garia666 on 29/01/2007 09:34:45 Reading all these posts I never realized People hated LV so much. I can understand from RA and the GOON`s as it has a long history. However i do not understand it from some other sides. Anyway it doesnt matter. We lost a big battle .. true howeve we havent lost the war. Respect for all involved See you in space You lost the war 6 months ago, LV will be dead by end this year. Reason? They didnt help their allies out when they could, now they stand alone against the red army. I will take a minute to comment to this. These are harsh accusations, made by someone i never even heard of. I can tell you that LV has always helped its allies. And a bit to much if you ask me. Many of you`r so called allies backstabbed LV.. Or couldn`t held there own space with out LV and then backstabbed LV. Not the other way around. I can tell you that LV can keep it`s face up high it has honor and decency. They do not brake there word or agreement. Things you don't find much now a day`s.. Maybe you should talk with some of the bigger corps in your alliance about backstabbing cause they do it all so well. The only reason LV helpped -v- and M was because if RA,Goon,CA, and the rest of us got control of the systems it would make life very difficult for LV. LV is not dumb they knew it would be very difficult to hold control over the current space with friendies controling the space in-between there space. LV is trying very hard to defend its current systems under attack but if only they spend more time/money trying to help there friends we would not be going after LV right now. This is just my .02 cents. I could be 100% wrong about this. Cupdeez, I must admit that noone EXPECTS you to make rational posts, but even this is more than your usual dross. We have been allied with -V- since our inseption. Even when Friendlies controlled Every station but one (c-j) in the WHOLE SOUTH of eve, we helped V in every way we could. Leaders of v like Light Darkness and Bjoern Bitter can and have told you and anyone else who would listen that LV made RIDICULOUS effort to keep them alive. The fact is, most of the alliances LV has supposedly "backstabbed" dont feel they were backstabbed, and it is my contention that LV has invested more ISK, POSs and ships into its allies concerns than any other alliance in the history of eve BY FAR. Reread Velios post. Find fault in it. Just because we rarely make grandiose propeganda posts doesnt mean all the **** said about us is true. The people who matter know we did more for our allies than we possibly owed and probably more than was good for LV.
KRE	Posted - 2007.01.29 19:21:00 - [292] After reading some of the post from LV I almost wanna grab TISSUE Are you crying for help? (Thanks for the History lesson!)
Bellon Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.01.29 19:42:00 - [293] Originally by: KRE After reading some of the post from LV I almost wanna grab TISSUE Are you crying for help? (Thanks for the History lesson!) Post with your main Cupdeez.
k Rose	Posted - 2007.01.29 19:54:00 - [294] Originally by: Bellon Originally by: KRE After reading some of the post from LV I almost wanna grab TISSUE Are you crying for help? (Thanks for the History lesson!) Post with your main Cupdeez. Oh what a nub I am sorry
Cupdeez Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.29 19:59:00 - [295] Edited by: Cupdeez on 29/01/2007 20:01:43 Originally by: Bellon Originally by: Cupdeez Edited by: Cupdeez on 29/01/2007 18:12:45 Originally by: Garia666 Originally by: Sean Dillon Originally by: Garia666 Edited by: Garia666 on 29/01/2007 09:34:45 Reading all these posts I never realized People hated LV so much. I can understand from RA and the GOON`s as it has a long history. However i do not understand it from some other sides. Anyway it doesnt matter. We lost a big battle .. true howeve we havent lost the war. Respect for all involved See you in space You lost the war 6 months ago, LV will be dead by end this year. Reason? They didnt help their allies out when they could, now they stand alone against the red army. I will take a minute to comment to this. These are harsh accusations, made by someone i never even heard of. I can tell you that LV has always helped its allies. And a bit to much if you ask me. Many of you`r so called allies backstabbed LV.. Or couldn`t held there own space with out LV and then backstabbed LV. Not the other way around. I can tell you that LV can keep it`s face up high it has honor and decency. They do not brake there word or agreement. Things you don't find much now a day`s.. Maybe you should talk with some of the bigger corps in your alliance about backstabbing cause they do it all so well. The only reason LV helpped -v- and M was because if RA,Goon,CA, and the rest of us got control of the systems it would make life very difficult for LV. LV is not dumb they knew it would be very difficult to hold control over the current space with friendies controling the space in-between there space. LV is trying very hard to defend its current systems under attack but if only they spend more time/money trying to help there friends we would not be going after LV right now. This is just my .02 cents. I could be 100% wrong about this. Cupdeez, I must admit that noone EXPECTS you to make rational posts, but even this is more than your usual dross. We have been allied with -V- since our inseption. Even when Friendlies controlled Every station but one (c-j) in the WHOLE SOUTH of eve, we helped V in every way we could. Leaders of v like Light Darkness and Bjoern Bitter can and have told you and anyone else who would listen that LV made RIDICULOUS effort to keep them alive. The fact is, most of the alliances LV has supposedly "backstabbed" dont feel they were backstabbed, and it is my contention that LV has invested more ISK, POSs and ships into its allies concerns than any other alliance in the history of eve BY FAR. Reread Velios post. Find fault in it. Just because we rarely make grandiose propeganda posts doesnt mean all the **** said about us is true. The people who matter know we did more for our allies than we possibly owed and probably more than was good for LV. This is my main and this is my only player on the account. Ask some of your GM friends. Can you read? I didn't say you didn't help them I didn't say you didn't try becaues you did. LV had more fighters then then Corps losing the systems. Since you had trouble reading the whole post i'll sum it up for you. All I said is you should have defended it like you are defending DG/0-W. Cause you are doing a much better defending DG/0-w with only LV then you did with LV/-v-/M. Like I said just my .02 cents. what is done is done. Signature filesize exceeds max limit of 24000 bytes. Mail us if you have questions -Eldo Davip
The Ratfink Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.01.29 20:09:00 - [296] Originally by: Cupdeez Edited by: Cupdeez on 29/01/2007 20:01:43 Originally by: Bellon Originally by: Cupdeez Edited by: Cupdeez on 29/01/2007 18:12:45 Originally by: Garia666 Originally by: Sean Dillon Originally by: Garia666 Edited by: Garia666 on 29/01/2007 09:34:45 Reading all these posts I never realized People hated LV so much. I can understand from RA and the GOON`s as it has a long history. However i do not understand it from some other sides. Anyway it doesnt matter. We lost a big battle .. true howeve we havent lost the war. Respect for all involved See you in space You lost the war 6 months ago, LV will be dead by end this year. Reason? They didnt help their allies out when they could, now they stand alone against the red army. I will take a minute to comment to this. These are harsh accusations, made by someone i never even heard of. I can tell you that LV has always helped its allies. And a bit to much if you ask me. Many of you`r so called allies backstabbed LV.. Or couldn`t held there own space with out LV and then backstabbed LV. Not the other way around. I can tell you that LV can keep it`s face up high it has honor and decency. They do not brake there word or agreement. Things you don't find much now a day`s.. Maybe you should talk with some of the bigger corps in your alliance about backstabbing cause they do it all so well. The only reason LV helpped -v- and M was because if RA,Goon,CA, and the rest of us got control of the systems it would make life very difficult for LV. LV is not dumb they knew it would be very difficult to hold control over the current space with friendies controling the space in-between there space. LV is trying very hard to defend its current systems under attack but if only they spend more time/money trying to help there friends we would not be going after LV right now. This is just my .02 cents. I could be 100% wrong about this. Cupdeez, I must admit that noone EXPECTS you to make rational posts, but even this is more than your usual dross. We have been allied with -V- since our inseption. Even when Friendlies controlled Every station but one (c-j) in the WHOLE SOUTH of eve, we helped V in every way we could. Leaders of v like Light Darkness and Bjoern Bitter can and have told you and anyone else who would listen that LV made RIDICULOUS effort to keep them alive. The fact is, most of the alliances LV has supposedly "backstabbed" dont feel they were backstabbed, and it is my contention that LV has invested more ISK, POSs and ships into its allies concerns than any other alliance in the history of eve BY FAR. Reread Velios post. Find fault in it. Just because we rarely make grandiose propeganda posts doesnt mean all the **** said about us is true. The people who matter know we did more for our allies than we possibly owed and probably more than was good for LV. This is my main and this is my only player on the account. Ask some of your GM friends. Can you read? I didn't say you didn't help them I didn't say you didn't try becaues you did. LV had more fighters then then Corps losing the systems. Since you had trouble reading the whole post i'll sum it up for you. All I said is you should have defended it like you are defending DG/0-W. Cause you are doing a much better defending DG/0-w with only LV then you did with LV/-v-/M. Like I said just my .02 cents. what is done is done. Lets be honest here its not like its difficult defending it from nubs like you? now is it. crap i posted with my alt ohnoes i should of gotten on my GM account
Cupdeez Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.29 20:13:00 - [297] Quote: Lets be honest here its not like its difficult defending it from nubs like you? now is it. Yah, Good point but the same players took you and -v- on in 1v. O'yah forgot that does not count. RA did 99.9999% of that and Goons/CA are jus the meatsheilds.. My Bad! Signature filesize exceeds max limit of 24000 bytes. Mail us if you have questions -Eldo Davip
The Ratfink Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.01.29 20:16:00 - [298] Originally by: Cupdeez Quote: Lets be honest here its not like its difficult defending it from nubs like you? now is it. Yah, Good point but the same players took you and -v- on in 1v. O'yah forgot that does not count. RA did 99.9999% of that and Goons/CA are jus the meatsheilds.. My Bad! Like the 99.999% of the POS's you have in our systems... Once again your a true visionary for the rest of eve to look up to
Dorah Hawkwing Chosen Path Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.01.29 20:26:00 - [299] Edited by: Dorah Hawkwing on 29/01/2007 20:23:16 Shesh... folks. It's allways easier defending home instead of 30 jumps away. And helping someone to defend also .. one exspects the defendee to show up in numbers. Eg. -V- and Maelstrom made a strong force/show. About why some of the other alliance mentioned above failed... one can speculate, and argue, but why make a flamewar when you can shoot ingame?
Cupdeez Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.29 20:27:00 - [300] Sucks when you have to defend all the time and can't go on the offense because we only have NPC stations huh? Signature filesize exceeds max limit of 24000 bytes. Mail us if you have questions -Eldo Davip

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