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Borges08
Mercenary Masterminds
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Posted - 2016.01.21 20:41:30 -
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What are we as explorers supposed to do now to make isk? For example, the best drops, pithum c-type shield booster (4/10) are 55mil, as opposed to the usual ~300, pithum a-type shield booster (6/10) are 282m, as opposed to the usual ~1.1-1.3bil.
How is it even possible to make money and fund plexes which have doubled in price 1.1-1.3bil each? Makes absolutely no sense at all. |
DTBA Fonulique
0rizen Irregulars Sev3rance
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Posted - 2016.01.21 20:50:10 -
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doing a 6/10 and getting 60 mil o/ |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2016.01.21 20:55:38 -
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Perhaps stop showing bot-aspirant behaviour and mercilessly farming these sites so as to reduce supply, and thereby allow the forces of supply and demand to increase prices?
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
Bumble's Space Log
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Borges08
Mercenary Masterminds
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Posted - 2016.01.21 20:55:48 -
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DTBA Fonulique wrote:doing a 6/10 and getting 60 mil o/
What? I mean the maximum payout is nerfed and ruined completely. There was always a chance of getting nothing at all. |
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2016.01.21 20:58:00 -
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Oh, where to start....
I'll assume you've been out of the game for awhile. The best things to drop from 4-6/10 Guristas sites are not the shield boosters; they're the invulnerability fields, which go for 860mil/540mil/270mil for A/B/C respectively. Which is still pretty darn good.
More importantly, no, CCP hasn't nerfed anything. There are more people doing exploration so supply of deadspace items is up. In the meantime, demand hasn't increased to follow suit. Hence lower prices.
I can casually plex on 5/10s and 6/10s. I'm not even in Guristas space. You can too. |
Jenn aSide
Ascendent. Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2016.01.21 20:59:48 -
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I knew as soon as he said the word "Pith" what the problem is. Goons/Imperium inhabit the north and over farm Guristas Content (even in nearby lowsec) to a crazy extent. And lowsec has high sec exploraiton sites now. So crazy even BLOOD RAIDERS loot fetches better prices than Guristas, and that has to be a 1st in all EVE history lol.
You're problem is with those over farming as well as CCPs buff to escalation chances. Nothing got 'nerfed',. And BTW thank goodness I live in Angel space, much more reasonable loot prices because Goons are up north. I have no problem affording PLEX. |
Borges08
Mercenary Masterminds
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Posted - 2016.01.21 21:02:53 -
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Zhilia Mann wrote:Oh, where to start....
I'll assume you've been out of the game for awhile. The best things to drop from 4-6/10 Guristas sites are not the shield boosters; they're the invulnerability fields, which go for 860mil/540mil/270mil for A/B/C respectively.
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THIS RIGHT HERE IS WHAT I WANTED TO SEE. Thanks for the update. Didn't know about these. :) Might start playing again after all. |
Estella Osoka
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.01.21 21:24:10 -
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Market Economy brah! If the supply is there, but the demand isn't; prices drop. If demand is there, but supply isn't; prices rise. |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2016.01.21 21:31:02 -
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Borges08 wrote:Shame plexes have doubled in price though.
Is that a hook for another whine thread?
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
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Estella Osoka
Perkone Caldari State
1001
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Posted - 2016.01.21 21:36:38 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Borges08 wrote:Shame plexes have doubled in price though. Is that a hook for another whine thread?
Maybe a line to a new EVE country song? |
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Jenn aSide
Ascendent. Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2016.01.21 22:39:03 -
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Estella Osoka wrote:Bumblefck wrote:Borges08 wrote:Shame plexes have doubled in price though. Is that a hook for another whine thread? Maybe a line to a new EVE country song?
Alllllllll my PLEX-s live in Texas......
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Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
152
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Posted - 2016.01.21 22:44:51 -
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As long as we are whining here I did three or four DED complexes two nights ago and got nothing over 25,000 ISK in value. Seriously, the drops were like "Dread Guristas Copper Tag (12,000 ISK)". Hours of my life I will never get back. |
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
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Posted - 2016.01.21 23:24:45 -
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Grrrr Goons.
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Ace Lapointe
Duty. Mighty Wings.
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Posted - 2016.01.22 00:20:48 -
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The whole gimmick of these Sites, at least in HS, is that it is random, you could win big, or not get anything at all, I have done DED's 5 days in a row and only got one Dread Gurista Long Point, but then I have done 3 Sites in a row and gotten 3 Pith C-Type Invun's, the Sites are better ISK then Missions if you run them in a decent fit, I use a Rattle for 5/10's and can clear then in under 10 minutes, thats 40mil everytime just in the 18th Overseers stuff, and another 20+ mil in Bounties, I have recently had a lot of luck with the 8/10's in Gurista Null Sec, the ISK payout is better if you stick with it, with lots of goodies, I mean, I have 2 Missioning HG Crystal Pods, had them for 3 months, and I only started playing EVE 7-8 months ago, so yeah..
If all you want to do is PLEX your account, then go do Incursions, I hear they do it better, I personally do DED's to fund my PvP and to outfit my Mission Running boats, why? Cause I do see why buying half the modules makes sense when I can go have fun finding them the hard way!
Good luck though. |
Daniela Doran
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.01.22 03:21:17 -
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Droidster wrote:As long as we are whining here I did three or four DED complexes two nights ago and got nothing over 25,000 ISK in value. Seriously, the drops were like "Dread Guristas Copper Tag (12,000 ISK)". Hours of my life I will never get back.
Why do you even drop this crap. I mean Raging Bull Newbie Carbide Railgun or whatever the hell they are worth 10K in recycled minerals. Why bother? What's the point of that?
...and as long as I am on the subject of nihilistic drops, what is it with the Metal Scraps? Is that some kind of sick joke or something? Hah hah you opened the container, what a dope you are!
If you drop something, it should have some kind of actual meaning in the game. Just dropping trash for the sake of dropping trash is pointless. Its like those gray drops in WOW.
LOL, when will you learn that Hi-sec is best-sec.
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Thorian Baalnorn
Bad Influence I N G L O R I O U S
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Posted - 2016.01.22 06:05:27 -
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I love the current prices of faction and deadspace loot. Deadspace was way overpriced and i say that as some that plexes. Its way more balanced and reasonable now. |
Anize Oramara
The Arch Dashing Dashers
737
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Posted - 2016.01.22 09:37:23 -
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I used to be an explorer like you, then I took a burner to the knee.
A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.07
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Inquisiteur Karamasov
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.01.22 10:32:23 -
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That the same problem with the data/relic site
Too much people doing it, not so much new player so the demand stay same so price drop. Nothing ccp can fix because even if they increase the loot the price will go down again, And if they make them harder many people will cry and stop play.
The problem is not enough new blood and ccp make everything too easy, I remember when i start Eve lvl4 mission was little reward and exploration really great reward now is the reverse ( thanks to the lp store) until everyone start to farm the lvl4 and we will have the same situation. |
Anize Oramara
The Arch Dashing Dashers
737
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Posted - 2016.01.22 11:30:22 -
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It's kind of ironic actually. Every time an explorer loses an astero, stratios or a ship fitted with a sister launcher or probes they pay me for new ones.
I'm sure you can appreciate the irony in that.
A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.07
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Inquisiteur Karamasov
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.01.22 12:09:52 -
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Anize Oramara wrote:It's kind of ironic actually. Every time an explorer loses an astero, stratios or a ship fitted with a sister launcher or probes they pay me for new ones.
I'm sure you can appreciate the irony in that.
yeah and some times ago the value of the lp on Soe was about 2200-2400isk per lp, now is hard 2000isk so that make my point more people do it the demand stay the same so the value go down. on this way it will arrive a moment the soe lp will worth nothing. |
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.01.22 16:11:45 -
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Relic exploration is steadily going up in profitability, due to the ever high and rising demand for T2 salvage materials.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Anize Oramara
The Arch Dashing Dashers
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Posted - 2016.01.22 17:41:24 -
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Inquisiteur Karamasov wrote:Anize Oramara wrote:It's kind of ironic actually. Every time an explorer loses an astero, stratios or a ship fitted with a sister launcher or probes they pay me for new ones.
I'm sure you can appreciate the irony in that. yeah and some times ago the value of the lp on Soe was about 2200-2400isk per lp, now is hard 2000isk so that make my point more people do it the demand stay the same so the value go down. on this way it will arrive a moment the soe lp will worth nothing. SOE LP worth has pretty much been steady at 1700-2200isk/lp since the SOE ship came out a year and half ago now? check the graphs in game.
A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.07
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SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
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Posted - 2016.01.22 18:05:43 -
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Borges08 wrote:What are we as explorers supposed to do now to make isk? For example, the best drops, pithum c-type shield booster (4/10) are 55mil, as opposed to the usual ~300, pithum a-type shield booster (6/10) are 282m, as opposed to the usual ~1.1-1.3bil.
How is it even possible to make money and fund plexes which have doubled in price 1.1-1.3bil each? Makes absolutely no sense at all.
I'm curious: How did you reach the conclusion that anything had been "nerfed"? You know CCP doesn't directly control the market prices, right?
"Help, I'm bored with missions!"
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Altair Taurus
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.01.23 23:17:40 -
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Not so long ago I experienced nerf of low-sec DED sites spawning rate. Now I am reading here about nerfed DED loot prices. I can also confirm drops from Serpentis high-sec DEDs are pure crap because I ran many of those in Onyx lately. That's abysmal... |
Ace Lapointe
Duty. Mighty Wings.
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Posted - 2016.01.23 23:32:58 -
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Guys, you do know all the prices for DED loot is controlled exclusively by players right? Someone has to buy half those terrible modules for a price so low because the market is flooded, hence why the only good ones are the rare drops. Stop complaining and saying it is CCP's fault, it is all our fault, we do them to much we ruined demand, we nearly all sell them for ISK flooding the market, CCP tried to help by nerf'ing spawn rates, hence lowering the amount of modules, hence rising the prices to a good level again, but 90% of you bastards complaining do nothing but run Sites like a bot, and then ruin the prices again, yourselves.
You want to make really good ISK doing DED's and Sites? Go down to Null, find a nice pocket, make some friends and sell out in Null where Cap pilots and Ratters buy their shiny stuff, and not in Jita where there are 500 other people doing the same thing you are.
Common sense guys, use it. |
Altair Taurus
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.01.23 23:48:01 -
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In null-sec It's much simpler to rob explorers from this shiny stuff by setting up a silly gate-camp. |
Ace Lapointe
Duty. Mighty Wings.
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Posted - 2016.01.23 23:56:45 -
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Altair Taurus wrote:In null-sec It's much simpler to rob explorers from this shiny stuff by setting up a silly gate-camp.
How often do you go to Null? I live in Null, I know maybe 2 area's that get gate camped regularly, within 50 jumps of my base, Null is very empty, it is the entry systems that are camped, also, if you want to make ISK you have to RISK it, or, as I say, risk it for the biscuit, don't complain that you aren't making ISK in risk free High Sec.
EVE is about risk vs reward, more risk, bigger reward. |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
10390
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Posted - 2016.01.24 02:29:12 -
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Where did the guy you quoted complain that he wasn't making that in high sec?
Ace Lapointe wrote:Altair Taurus wrote:In null-sec It's much simpler to rob explorers from this shiny stuff by setting up a silly gate-camp. How often do you go to Null? I live in Null, I know maybe 2 area's that get gate camped regularly, within 50 jumps of my base, Null is very empty, it is the entry systems that are camped, also, if you want to make ISK you have to RISK it, or, as I say, risk it for the biscuit, don't complain that you aren't making ISK in risk free High Sec. EVE is about risk vs reward, more risk, bigger reward.
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
Bumble's Space Log
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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
2445
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Posted - 2016.01.24 03:53:25 -
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Altair Taurus wrote:Not so long ago I experienced nerf of low-sec DED sites spawning rate. Now I am reading here about nerfed DED loot prices. I can also confirm drops from Serpentis high-sec DEDs are pure crap because I ran many of those in Onyx lately. That's abysmal...
Excellent. Please stop your exploration activities immediately and go in search of greener pastures. |
Orlacc
941
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Posted - 2016.01.24 05:09:11 -
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The RNG has been nerfed????
"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
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