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Chasida
Instant Annihilation
Northern Army
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Posted - 2016.01.22 07:26:57 -
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I am curious, since I need to make isk (returning player). I currently live in null sec alliance btw.
What is worth doing? Ice mining? Gas mining? PvP (not likely)? Missions (not likely, and will take weeks to get to high lvl missions)? Wormholing (does not look like it)? DED/cosmic sites (hasnt the market collapsed?)? Incursions? Scamming the trade market?
Sadly, listening to some players, the last one, scamming (and buying selling clearly wrongly priced items) may be the only way to make some fast isk in this game, but this is not my thing, neither in RL nor in a game.
The only other thing I know so far that may be a good income is incursions, but where I live (null sec), this is dangerous and need to team up more or less (or use a absurd expensive ship, which I do NOT have, nor can buy, nor will risk).
I am currently considering starting up a new account on my second computer (can play 2 at once), and was considering duoing WH/nullsec sites/incursions, but I am not sure its worth it after reading a lot of posts. Maybe I should just move back to high sec and hunt for incursions with 2 accounts?
I am honestly and sincerely in need of advice people, how can I make a good income of ISK in this game in its current state a la 2016?And what I mean by that is in the 100s of millions pr week, anything lower then easily 100-200 mills a week is waste of time, you can get that by one scam/lucky buy on the market.
I am a player that need to see advancement in the MMOs I play, or I just get frustrated and leave. So please help me out here; what should I put my time into doing to earn ISK!? And if its like gass mining or DED hunting, Incursions etc, please give me some good advice on ships to use (remember I can play 2 accounts/computers). I have read A LOT of posts about which ships to use, and I am going in circles! The main/current account is Caldari, have not made a second account yet.
Obi-wan Kenobi, I am in need of help...please help... |
Malaugrym
I'm Fine and You
Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2016.01.22 07:30:56 -
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Log in two afktars. Warp to a Haven. Drop drones. Orbit stargate. Play other games. Repeat. |
Cecil Montague
PCG Enterprises
80
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Posted - 2016.01.22 07:37:02 -
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Chasida wrote:
I am a player that need to see advancement in the MMOs I play, or I just get frustrated and leave.
While Eve has advanced significantly over the last decade and a bit its overall character hasn't changed; it is not a game of instant gratification.
That said a decent L4 running setup can net you around 100m+ per evening so 200m per week shouldn't be an issue.
Otherwise...
1) Buy PLEX
2) Sell PLEX in Jita
3) ???
4) Profit
"There is no such thing as an effective segment of Totality" - Bruce Lee: The only man with a Chuck Norris killmail.
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Anize Oramara
The Arch Dashing Dashers
737
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Posted - 2016.01.22 07:42:17 -
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If you have the skills and are willing to invest the time you can make a good amount from missions 200mill/250mill per hour however you'd probably be better off running anoms for bounties, especially if you have a 2nd account to help dps with if you need isk right now. Look at a Rattlesnake, Ishtar, (Navy)Typhoon, Machariel, Domi for anom running.
A guide (Google Doc) to Hi-Sec blitzing and breaking the 200mill ISK/H barrier v1.07
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Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
3371
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Posted - 2016.01.22 07:43:16 -
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Everything! Everything is worth doing. You just have to know how to do that. There is a lot of advices on Youtube and here in newcomers part of forum. Just sit thru it all. Find what do you like to do, and just play the game. And dont be afraid to try new things.
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Mithandra
Catastrophic Operations
Get Off My Lawn
433
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Posted - 2016.01.22 07:50:29 -
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Everything is worth doing in eve, admittedly for a given value of 'worth'
If your goal is to maked a wallet that has more zeros in it than the american "defence' budget, then wormhole escalations with a group of like minded and very twitchy scanner savvy friends would be my preferred option.
Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community
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Sequester Risalo
Semiki Minerals and Missiles Company Ltd.
177
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Posted - 2016.01.22 09:01:55 -
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As you are a returning player you should know what you enjoy and as a member of a null alliance you should have plenty space to do it in.
So, if you are the ratting type, go ratting in your sov. If you are the industrial type, go producing in your stations. If you are the mining type, go mining in your sov. If you are the trading type, by all means go and trade. If you want instant isk gratification, go buy one or more PLEX'.
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
43704
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Posted - 2016.01.22 09:06:30 -
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This new guy has done well salvaging in null in cheap ships:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/41lfam/i_just_plexed_on_a_trial_account_heres_how_i_did/
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Chasida
Instant Annihilation
Northern Army
0
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Posted - 2016.01.22 09:30:23 -
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What he is doing is salvaging PvP ships that just happen to be close to the station, not many of those situations around. This is like a 1 in a 1 000 000 situation, borderline a corp recruit video. What he is doing is not realistic at all, to make this work you need to be in a corp / alliance that regulary have a station camped (and not losing it), you need to be camped in that station, and there cannot be people doing the same. All in all this is not even remotely realistic scenario! For him to even make this videos are pointless, as I wrote earlier looks to be made as a join corp scam, absurdly unrealistic way of income. |
Tisiphone Dira
WiNGSPAN Academy for Enterprising Pilots
The WINGSPAN Logo Alliance
584
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Posted - 2016.01.22 09:46:39 -
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That's not a can-do attitude, I don't see fortunes in your future with that kind of frowny-face pessimism and poo-poo'ing of ideas. |
Chasida
Instant Annihilation
Northern Army
0
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Posted - 2016.01.22 09:56:20 -
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Tisiphone Dira wrote:That's not a can-do attitude, I don't see fortunes in your future with that kind of frowny-face pessimism and poo-poo'ing of ideas.
Please wake up! What he is doing is not remotely realistic way of making ISK! Hardly ever happen. This is like waiting on winning in Lotto! |
erg cz
Eleutherian Guard
Villore Accords
390
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Posted - 2016.01.22 10:03:15 -
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Cecil Montague wrote:Chasida wrote:
I am a player that need to see advancement in the MMOs I play, or I just get frustrated and leave.
While Eve has advanced significantly over the last decade and a bit its overall character hasn't changed; it is not a game of instant gratification. That said a decent L4 running setup can net you around 100m+ per evening so 200m per week shouldn't be an issue. Otherwise... 1) Buy PLEX 2) Sell PLEX in Jita 3) ??? 4) Profit
This is absolutely true. What do you need ISK for? PvP? Try factional warfare. ISK and combat in one bottle. PLEX, so you can play for free? Get a job.
This is a game, it is supposed to be fun. If you do something only for ISK and no fun , it is wrong, IMHO. If you do PvE because it is fun for you (like L4 missions for me) - it can be very good source of ISK, that can be spend in PvP later on. Thing is, that if you stick with just one kind of ISK making activity, you get bored. I do L4 security missions, wormhole diving, exploration, manufacture even mining, when I feel I want something relaxing and chat friendly. In null you can simply blap rats in belts and still get tons of ISK from it.
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Cannibal Zuza
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2016.01.22 10:03:44 -
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The golden age for awokers draws nigh. Soon Eve would become a awokers paradise once CCP releases SP skill extractors/injections into this fabulous game. Soon you'd be able to train a awokering toon in just 1 week, biomass, rinse and repeat till your hearts desire. Just one awoxer can net you 30-60 bill in 6 months easy. The trick is to not rush it and to plant 6-8 thorns into the big alliances like Goons who have far too many members for their own good. Once you sneak in the Goons, try to discover where all the afk ratters go and give them a warm greeting with your other ganking alt. Killing afk Ishtars and Rattlesnakes can net you 3-4 bill a week easy per toon. |
Varathius
Space-Brewery-Association
198
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Posted - 2016.01.22 10:06:53 -
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Malaugrym wrote:Log in two afktars. Warp to a Haven. Drop drones. Orbit stargate. Play other games. Repeat.
The most enjoyable thing regarding this is the afk pvp kills that you get with it. I went to walk my dog once and when i came back I had 3 interceptor kills. |
Tisiphone Dira
WiNGSPAN Academy for Enterprising Pilots
The WINGSPAN Logo Alliance
584
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Posted - 2016.01.22 10:08:16 -
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Wake up sheeple, he didn't work for that isk, he didn't build that, he stumbled across it by dumb luck and is now trying to keep us poor folks down. He didn't put any hard work or research into his novel money generating scheme, he just stumbled across such a place by dumb luck (after trying to find such a place deliberately, total coincidence though). Somebody needs to take that isk he unfairly earnt and redistribute it, for the benefit of everybody.
Vote for me and I promise once this crisis has abated, I will lay down the powers you have given me!
Tisi 2016 |
Luke Skywalking
SRS-BSNS
29
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Posted - 2016.01.22 10:26:57 -
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Hi.
I'm a relatively new player nearing 2 months.
What I'm doing , in high sec, lands me nearly a 50 to 100mil per day, depending on time spent and luck.
I think in this game if you work hard enough you'll be rewarded just fine.
I tend to rotate my activities so as not to get bored.
Run missions.. level 3 and 4 will do fine. Used to do around 7 or more lvl3 at one go but now I do level 4 missions, which take slightly longer in my Rattlesnake but gives much more. So 3 or 4 missions. Bookmark all wreckages and go back to salvage and loot. An average lvl 4 gives you 4mil in bounties and around 8 Mil in loot. So let's say you get 10mil (after deducting ammo expenses drone loss etc...prudently speaking) per lvl 4.. you get 30mil with 3 x runs.
Then I'll take a short break and mine in a barge.. procurer one haul gives 2+Mil. Gives you time to chat or do whatever semi afk. I normally help out in rookie chat when I do this. 2 runs give you nearly 5 Mil. 45mins later.
After which you can do exploration. Wormholes give more but luck is the variable factor here. By exploration I mean relic and data sites. After an hour or so.. another 20mil .. again prudently say you chance upon any good stuff like BPs.
Finally comes ratting.. running cosmic anomalies and hoping for escalations. Example, a centii A type remote armor repairer gives you 40++mil...and they drop fairly often if u get a commander rat.
So yeah.. in short. Do everything. Love that activity.. do it more.
Good luck and fly safe. |
Ohanka
373
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Posted - 2016.01.22 11:02:43 -
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Market scams.
North Korea is Best Korea
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Mr Mieyli
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
144
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Posted - 2016.01.22 12:25:03 -
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Seriously OP there's not a whole lot of difference between the top end income sources so pick whatever you feel like. Incursions, faction warfare, mission blitzing, null anoms, and wormhole sites, the income is much the same for each. Then there's the fact that isk is nearly worthless in the first place, I mean isk does not buy you victory not even close so what's the point in stockpiling it?
A case for more AoE in EvE
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Neuntausend
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
528
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Posted - 2016.01.22 12:33:42 -
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Quoting my own post from another thread:
Neuntausend wrote:You can go the "normal" MMOG route and grind.
- If you mine Highsec asteroids, you can make maybe 20-ish million isk per hour spent.
- If you run Level 4 Missions or Nullsec Anomalies, you can get a steady 100-ish million ISK per hour doing that.
- If you find a nice wormhole corp, you can make maybe 500-ish Million ISK per hour running sites with your corpmates.
- ...
However - none of that you will be able to do efficiently as a newbie, so don't try that right away. It will just leave you bored and/or discouraged.
You can also go the not quite as "normal" route as far as MMOGs go, and play the economy.
- Trading: Set up low buy orders and high sell orders
- Speculation: Anticipate changes in supply and demand, and stock up accordingly, to sell at a high profit later
- Manipulation: Strategically Buy and Sell huge amounts of certain goods to actively manipulate the price of the wares you are trading.
The ISK/h ratio on those has no limit. The more you invest, the more profit you make, the more you can invest. However, you will need a certain knack for business, and a good amount of game-knowledge. It's not a good idea to blindly trade without the faintest idea of what it is you are trading.
Or you can go the one route that makes Eve different from so many other games and be a cheating, thieving, lying, scamming bastard. People are still falling for the good old ISK doubling scam, but almost anything goes. People have in the past acted as escrow agents for titan sales, and then kept both the titan and the money. People have set up financial services, just to run away with all the money after a while. People have run and are still running gambling services. The possibilities are endless and limited only by your imagination. I have seen newbies pull off scams within their first few days.
Now - those are only an examples. There are near unlimited ways to make ISK in this game, but those should give you an idea how much money you can make doing what. Which one of those are "worth doing" strongly depends on what you consider to be "worth doing". All of those are worth doing to someone, or nobody would be doing them.
It may look like Mining-Income in High sec is pretty crappy, for example. But it does require almost no attention and can be done semi-afk with 10 accounts at a time, 10 hours a day. It may look like C5/C6 wormhole income is pretty good, but it requires you to live in a wormhole, which certainly isn't to everybodys taste.
There is no one right way to make money in Eve. All of them have their merits. It's down to you to try them out and decide what's for you and what's not. |
Chasida
Instant Annihilation
Northern Army
0
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Posted - 2016.01.22 12:43:11 -
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Just to clearify; my toon is BROKE! I need to make ISK to function! Got less then 10 mill right now!
I am not asking on advice on how to stockpile ISK like that is the point of the game. I live in null space, and I do not have ISK! Belt ratting is SLOW! Doing cosmic sigs give little ISK, if you arent very lucky and get a rare blueprint etc. Most of the stuff I find in belts or sites arent even wanted in the market in nullsec. In home systems there are neutrals in local 24/7. This is what frustrates me! It looks like no matter what I do, I use more ISK then I earn...
I got the impression that doing data/relic sites gave good ISK, far more then belt ratting, but so far I do not see much of that phat ISK. The only thing I know so far that does give good ISK is escalations, which I cannot run due to a ship fitted for a 10/10 cost 1+ billion ISK, and are very deadly in null sec.
I have been playing with the idea of going neutral, and going back to high sec, trying to find a remote/little unused part of high sec/low sec/null sec (if such a thing even exist), where I can do site/escalations, while I at the same time duo with an alt and I skill him up...
Simply put; I do not know what to do to earn ISK, why I made the post... |
Amber Starview
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
62
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Posted - 2016.01.22 13:15:50 -
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You are part of huge blue donut ? But are worried about a neutral in local
Why not do activities with your corpies and if they can't/won't help find another Corp |
Jenn aSide
Ascendent.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
13419
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Posted - 2016.01.22 13:35:01 -
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Chasida wrote:Just to clearify; my toon is BROKE! I need to make ISK to function! Got less then 10 mill right now!
I am not asking on advice on how to stockpile ISK like that is the point of the game. I live in null space, and I do not have ISK! Belt ratting is SLOW! Doing cosmic sigs give little ISK, if you arent very lucky and get a rare blueprint etc. Most of the stuff I find in belts or sites arent even wanted in the market in nullsec. In home systems there are neutrals in local 24/7. This is what frustrates me! It looks like no matter what I do, I use more ISK then I earn...
I got the impression that doing data/relic sites gave good ISK, far more then belt ratting, but so far I do not see much of that phat ISK. The only thing I know so far that does give good ISK is escalations, which I cannot run due to a ship fitted for a 10/10 cost 1+ billion ISK, and are very deadly in null sec.
I have been playing with the idea of going neutral, and going back to high sec, trying to find a remote/little unused part of high sec/low sec/null sec (if such a thing even exist), where I can do site/escalations, while I at the same time duo with an alt and I skill him up...
Simply put; I do not know what to do to earn ISK, why I made the post...
Instead of sperging on a forum you should be asking your alliance mates to give you a VNI or mining ship fit appropriate for your space, or just use Google.... It's easier for a new player to make isk in null now than at any time in the past.
If you're having trouble making isk right now in this age of upgraded systems with respawning combat and mining anomalies, you better be glad you started playing EVE now rather than when I did. Becaus eyou wouldn't make it.
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
CODE.
2071
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Posted - 2016.01.22 13:39:24 -
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Chasida wrote:Just to clearify; my toon is BROKE! I need to make ISK to function! Got less then 10 mill right now!
So mining is out of the question then
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Keno Skir
779
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Posted - 2016.01.22 13:43:16 -
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With ten mil you could Mine, Rat, Start building mission standings, start exploration, loads of stuff.
It seems your actual question is "how can i make LOADS of isk without doing very much if anything hard to get it". This is not a realistic attitude to eve. Suggest you go back and re-read all the suggestions so far and actually try one of them. Ratting in nul should net you way more than 10mil in about 20minutes. Don;t see what the issue is aside from you being a bit lazy and spending more than you can be bothered to make.
Nobody here is going to just plonk an easy job with great profits on your lap, go out and find your fortune.
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Rykker Bow
The Scope
226
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Posted - 2016.01.22 14:48:24 -
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Market trading. Station trading. It's a somewhat tough learning curve, but this is eve and we're used to that.
Pros: it's an end game isk tactic. The infrastructure can be continually built up to obscene amounts of 50-100b profits a month. Can be very profitable in just a few weeks depending on your starting amount. The strategy is very stable and methodical after you've settled in. Once stable, it can be started and stopped with minimal effort
Cons: it's a frustrating learning curve. You make very little isk the first few weeks while learning with a low starting amount. The first few months are a balance between reinvesting profits and spending. It's a 10 key click fest.
The Mjolnir Bloc - Lowsec PvP for the sophisticated -
The Mjolnir Bloc Killboards
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders
4273
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Posted - 2016.01.22 15:59:55 -
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Quick ISK injection --> buy & sell a PLEX
Stable income --> anything really, the key point is either finding something that you enjoy doing, or do different ISK-making activities so you don't get bored. Making ISK is part of the game and should be fun, even if (like me) you prefer destroying ISK (PVP). So best to have some fun while doing it, else it'll become a chore and you'll hate logging on.
Make space glamorous!
Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
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Paranoid Loyd
8231
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Posted - 2016.01.22 16:32:29 -
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Take things from the ignorant and greedy. 
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!
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SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
1682
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Posted - 2016.01.22 16:36:33 -
[28] - Quote
Chasida wrote:
I am a player that need to see advancement in the MMOs I play, or I just get frustrated and leave.
Given your apparent unwillingness to actually do anything, I figure you're not long for this game, so here's an option: Right before you quit again, send me all of your ISK and assets. I will invest this on your behalf and, when you return again, present it back to you, with interest, minus a small management fee.
"Help, I'm bored with missions!"
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
7260
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Posted - 2016.01.22 17:54:28 -
[29] - Quote
Chasida wrote:I am curious, since I need to make isk (returning player). I currently live in null sec alliance btw.
What is worth doing? Ice mining? Gas mining? PvP (not likely)? Missions (not likely, and will take weeks to get to high lvl missions)? Wormholing (does not look like it)? DED/cosmic sites (hasnt the market collapsed?)? Incursions? Scamming the trade market?
Sadly, listening to some players, the last one, scamming (and buying selling clearly wrongly priced items) may be the only way to make some fast isk in this game, but this is not my thing, neither in RL nor in a game.
The only other thing I know so far that may be a good income is incursions, but where I live (null sec), this is dangerous and need to team up more or less (or use a absurd expensive ship, which I do NOT have, nor can buy, nor will risk).
I am currently considering starting up a new account on my second computer (can play 2 at once), and was considering duoing WH/nullsec sites/incursions, but I am not sure its worth it after reading a lot of posts. Maybe I should just move back to high sec and hunt for incursions with 2 accounts?
I am honestly and sincerely in need of advice people, how can I make a good income of ISK in this game in its current state a la 2016?And what I mean by that is in the 100s of millions pr week, anything lower then easily 100-200 mills a week is waste of time, you can get that by one scam/lucky buy on the market.
I am a player that need to see advancement in the MMOs I play, or I just get frustrated and leave. So please help me out here; what should I put my time into doing to earn ISK!? And if its like gass mining or DED hunting, Incursions etc, please give me some good advice on ships to use (remember I can play 2 accounts/computers). I have read A LOT of posts about which ships to use, and I am going in circles! The main/current account is Caldari, have not made a second account yet.
Obi-wan Kenobi, I am in need of help...please help...
When I saw "nullsec alliance" I though "run anoms".
Seriously though, a good nullsec alliance should give you some opportunity to run some anoms and get your ISK up. Is there a restriction against that? If so, do they have a ship replacement program? Probably the worst situation an Eve player can end up in is to be in an alliance that won't let you run some means of ISK earning but expect you to pay for all of your own ships. Then after you use alts or find some means of ISK earning, you get ordered via fleet engagements to send your ship into the meat grinder.
Thus you should consider perhaps that your affairs are not in order, and that the overall situation you are in needs to change. If you are not getting some opportunity to make some ISK in nullsec by some arbitrary restriction, you might consider joining another alliance.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Pryce Caesar
Cloak and Daggers
Fidelas Constans
34
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Posted - 2016.01.22 18:12:40 -
[30] - Quote
Chasida wrote:Just to clearify; my toon is BROKE! I need to make ISK to function! Got less then 10 mill right now!
I am not asking on advice on how to stockpile ISK like that is the point of the game. I live in null space, and I do not have ISK! Belt ratting is SLOW! Doing cosmic sigs give little ISK, if you arent very lucky and get a rare blueprint etc. Most of the stuff I find in belts or sites arent even wanted in the market in nullsec. In home systems there are neutrals in local 24/7. This is what frustrates me! It looks like no matter what I do, I use more ISK then I earn...
I got the impression that doing data/relic sites gave good ISK, far more then belt ratting, but so far I do not see much of that phat ISK. The only thing I know so far that does give good ISK is escalations, which I cannot run due to a ship fitted for a 10/10 cost 1+ billion ISK, and are very deadly in null sec.
I have been playing with the idea of going neutral, and going back to high sec, trying to find a remote/little unused part of high sec/low sec/null sec (if such a thing even exist), where I can do site/escalations, while I at the same time duo with an alt and I skill him up...
Simply put; I do not know what to do to earn ISK, why I made the post...
Take a look at your skills. See what ships you can fly, look at what ships you have.
Use what ships you have in order to make enough income in order to fit out a ship that can reliably survive a Haven from whatever faction is in your space (preferably a Navy Issue or Tech 2 Cruiser). Fit it, do three to four Haven anomalies, and you can easily get a ball-park of 80-120 million ISK per day in less than three hour's time (each Haven should take only 40 minutes a piece, depending on spawns).
BOOM. You are no longer broke, and you have a steady and stable means of income.
The alternative, if you don't have any ships to use in Null-Sec, is to engage in activities with another toon in High-Sec, and transfer the money over to your other character. Once you have transferred enough money over that way, just repeat the latter steps from what I stated above.
I should know, because I was in that kind of situation a while back.
The only thing to be careful about is to keep track of who is who in the area of space you are ratting anomalies in.
As for data and relic sites, the income depends on what kind of site you are doing it in, and how many you do. |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
10372
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Posted - 2016.01.22 18:43:51 -
[31] - Quote
Me.
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
Bumble's Space Log
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Tweek Etimua
The Paragons
91
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Posted - 2016.01.22 20:09:17 -
[32] - Quote
I enjoy soloing in FW. How ever I suck at eve so the money I earn from LP and the money i loose from blowing up equals out. |
Orlacc
933
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Posted - 2016.01.22 21:23:12 -
[33] - Quote
Do missions. Kill rats. Play the market. Quite frankly if you cant make isk in EVE Maple Storyis looking for a few good men.
"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
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Demolishar
United Aggression
1072
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Posted - 2016.01.22 22:21:24 -
[34] - Quote
Buy PLEX for cash, sell it for ISK.
You are too far behind to ever catch up. That's a fact. Just supply people with me with what we need. |
Cidanel Afuran
Static-Noise
Upholders
580
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Posted - 2016.01.22 23:18:58 -
[35] - Quote
When I first left HS to go to null a few years ago, I did nothing but scout out trade routes, set up tactical bookmarks, etc. For corp/alliance mates. Not only did I get hundreds of millions of 'thank you' ISK from it, but it was more exciting than mining, and I ended up with a decent set of personal bookmarks around the region myself. |
Ardevealca
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2016.01.22 23:23:01 -
[36] - Quote
Chasida wrote:
Obi-wan Kenobi, I am in need of help...please help...
Buy a plex.
Why would you waste your life on grinding virtual currency when you can spend $20 and have fun for months with it?
Let's say you love pvp. Buy a plex, fit a 100 ships and go have fun! With cost of ten million, you can fit hundred properly fitted t1 frigates. If you do fly with others, that 100 fitted ships will last 'forever'. |
Ardevealca
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
0
|
Posted - 2016.01.22 23:24:16 -
[37] - Quote
Also pro tip: do not lose ships.  |
Damjan Fox
Fox Industries and Exploration
218
|
Posted - 2016.01.22 23:44:08 -
[38] - Quote
Quote:how can I make a good income of ISK in this game in its current state a la 2016?And what I mean by that is in the 100s of millions pr week, anything lower then easily 100-200 mills a week is waste of time
"good income", "100-200mil per week", are you serious? 
You live in null and you can't find a way to make "100-200mil per week"?
Run havens for 1-2 hours, do a couple of relic sites, 1 DED site, Gas sites, PI, import/built stuff and sell it to your alliance, even mining for a couple of hours in null will make you that....
I'd have a hard time looking for an activity, that WON'T make a couple hundreds of millions per week.
Proposal: >>> New Inventory / Item Hangar <<<
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Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
711
|
Posted - 2016.01.23 00:22:53 -
[39] - Quote
the guy was actually told what to do but looks like the only thing he want is rain of isk fallen from heaven.
you have been told what are usual activities in null which allow you to earn isk but your find those boring and low income? you should really start working with your corp/alli other than complaining here. your organization have logi service which you could use to ship all the loot to Jita and sell it to buy orders. when u have enough isk you could run solo those high end anoms and have fancy loot drops. take your time cause it's not gonna happen that fast as you want. another advise is to change your employment and found those carebear groups in null who operates under protection of blue doughnut. |
Keno Skir
781
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Posted - 2016.01.23 10:39:53 -
[40] - Quote
Orlacc wrote:Maple Storyis looking for a few good men.
Had to look up Maple Story to see how bad it is, was impressed with badness.
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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
251
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Posted - 2016.01.23 12:46:13 -
[41] - Quote
Chasida wrote:Just to clearify; my toon is BROKE! I need to make ISK to function! Got less then 10 mill right now!
I am not asking on advice on how to stockpile ISK like that is the point of the game. I live in null space, and I do not have ISK! Belt ratting is SLOW! Doing cosmic sigs give little ISK, if you arent very lucky and get a rare blueprint etc. Most of the stuff I find in belts or sites arent even wanted in the market in nullsec. In home systems there are neutrals in local 24/7. This is what frustrates me! It looks like no matter what I do, I use more ISK then I earn...
I got the impression that doing data/relic sites gave good ISK, far more then belt ratting, but so far I do not see much of that phat ISK. The only thing I know so far that does give good ISK is escalations, which I cannot run due to a ship fitted for a 10/10 cost 1+ billion ISK, and are very deadly in null sec.
I have been playing with the idea of going neutral, and going back to high sec, trying to find a remote/little unused part of high sec/low sec/null sec (if such a thing even exist), where I can do site/escalations, while I at the same time duo with an alt and I skill him up...
Simply put; I do not know what to do to earn ISK, why I made the post...
i don't think your attitude belongs here, dude. you sound whiney, needy, and incapable. o.O
Just Add Water
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Jarsoom Blade
Blade's Legion
26
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Posted - 2016.01.23 13:56:25 -
[42] - Quote
Chasida wrote:scamming (and buying selling clearly wrongly priced items) may be the only way to make some fast isk in this game, but this is not my thing, neither in RL nor in a game.
I'm so glad scamming is not your thing in real life, good on you!
This is EVE
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Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
267
|
Posted - 2016.01.23 18:39:39 -
[43] - Quote
Making money?
I've always done 3/10's and now I can do 4/10's pretty comfortably. Though the loot is very random and not really something you can count on in an ISK/hour mindset.
If I got a few friends on and we find a C1-C2 somewhere, we can crush all the sites together pretty fast and split the loot however many ways.
I think the best money for solo and a new player has gotta be in pirate Relic sites.
(This is just my experience)
@lunettelulu7
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Hal Morsh
Hmmzor.
Muffins of Mayhem
495
|
Posted - 2016.01.24 18:21:03 -
[44] - Quote
Cannibal Zuza wrote:The golden age for awokers draws nigh. Soon Eve would become a awokers paradise once CCP releases SP skill extractors/injections into this fabulous game. Soon you'd be able to train a awokering toon in just 1 week, biomass, rinse and repeat till your hearts desire. Just one awoxer can net you 30-60 bill in 6 months easy. The trick is to not rush it and to plant 6-8 thorns into the big alliances like Goons who have far too many members for their own good. Once you sneak in the Goons, try to discover where all the afk ratters go and give them a warm greeting with your other ganking alt. Killing afk Ishtars and Rattlesnakes can net you 3-4 bill a week easy per toon.
Skillpoints eventually top out, this gives the skillpoints recycleability and more value.
Dun'Gal > Hal is simply an imperfect ai, though if drunkeness ever gets programmed into ai's I foresee both a hilarious and tragic end to humanity.
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Chasida
Instant Annihilation
Northern Army
0
|
Posted - 2016.01.25 07:47:08 -
[45] - Quote
A quick update and some comments:
Thanks to the ones that actually tries to help! And yes, I do know I am kinda whining, because the situation has frustrated me after I came back. I was expecting better isk in null sec after signature were implemented, in other words far better then normal belt rats. If I knew before hand it would this slow in null sec, I had stayed in highsec/low sec longer, earning more isk before joining a null sec corp.
My problem has been, and still is that I do not have a good enough ship in corp space to be able to do the good/highest combat havens/highest tiers signatures, and neither the ones close to it (sanctuaries, Mordus etc). Either I can plain not do them, because my ship take too much damage, or some takes just too long time to kill, resulting in isk pr hours is really bad and use a fortune on missiles, and way too long time.
I know what ships I need to do them well, but I am not there yet. This is what has been my problem. Even in good corps, they do not normally give away ships worth 100+ mills to 'returning noobs', when local in almost all systems do have neutrals (or directly hostiles) 24/7, which is the case of our alliance.
I have over the weekend done hours of data and relic sites, sadly I hardly find anything worth the time, CCP should upgrade the value of these, isk wise its a waste of time (even if you find copies of blueprints). And the marked for the items looted is really low. Data/relics sites should give original blueprints, or copies with many runs, like its now its not worth it time/isk wise, normal belt rats are worth more, sadly.
What I do miss answers to in this thread, since kinda the thread has been going down just one road, is this;
If I roll a create a second account, going high back sec to fly two accounts while I train the new one up, which ships do you suggest I duo with?
Should the main account fly tanks/dps, while the new one run 'logistics'/low dps? Would the main be able to take agro from all rats? I have no idea how to best play 2 accounts in Eve (but I have in other MMOs), so I am looking for advice. I would most likely mostly do belt and signatures to get expeditions/escalations to do them for higher isk and faction loot. Or is something else better to do isk wise? I would focus on doing stuff in high sec/low sec, while training. The second one will also most likelly be Caldari, but I can of course train into any ship. Only reason is I roll both Caldari, is if I decide to try out Faction Warfare, I guess race matters? I have no idea on how FW works, and if its worth it.
One thing that sounds interesting, but not sure worth it due to danger, is going PvEing in wormholes with 2 ships/accounts. But then I need both enough cargo hold and survivaility to rat and make it back out, preferable not far into low/null sec. I sounds fun in a game perspective, but I am not sure its viable/realistic gamewise and actually worth the risk...
Would be nice if someone gave me some advice on how/what to play/fly if I make a second account!
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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
2515
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Posted - 2016.01.25 17:02:26 -
[46] - Quote
ISK doubling services are the fastest way to get more ISK. |
Aiwha
Infinite Point
Northern Army
905
|
Posted - 2016.01.25 17:07:00 -
[47] - Quote
Ninja'ing gas sites is good early on. PI is good with ANYTHING since its passive. And exploration generally is pretty good, little bit of luck required there though.
Sanity is fun leaving the body.
Aiwha for CSM XI
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Keno Skir
784
|
Posted - 2016.01.25 17:28:56 -
[48] - Quote
Your first account is broke. How is making a second account going to help in any way?
You're getting some blunt answers because you're strategically ignoring the obvious truth here. You use the ship you have now to make whatever isk you can, and buy a better ship or improve the fit with that isk. Repeat until eventually you're doing what you want to be doing in the ship you want to do it in.
Other people in nulsec get along just fine and make loads of ISK even without blingy ships. It would seem obvious then that it's an issue with your plan or your willingness to work for things that is at fault here. Starting a second account means you're going to have 2 broke characters instead of 1.
I keep a cruiser in lowsec for occasional ratting, not even nulsec. Since you started this thread i could have made many hundreds of millions with it just by belt ratting and running little anoms. I'm wondering why you haven't done the same?
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Chasida
Instant Annihilation
Northern Army
0
|
Posted - 2016.01.25 19:18:24 -
[49] - Quote
Well I do not have ship in null sec that can earn me 'hundreds of millions in a few days', its not good enough. My current ship is capable of about 6 mill an hour or so.
I have played daily, many of those hours I have been scanning and doing data/relic sites, that sadly have not given me much value. I am now back to more normal ratting, but its slow...
Oh and btw: second account = 1 plex = 1.2 bill + I will be able to 'solo' more stuff (high/low sec)... |
Jenn aSide
Ascendent.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
13458
|
Posted - 2016.01.25 19:28:19 -
[50] - Quote
[Vexor Navy Issue, Blood VNI - Shield]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Omnidirectional Tracking Enhancer II
Damage Control II
100MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner
Large Shield Extender I
Large Shield Extender I
Drone Navigation Computer I
Drone Link Augmentor I
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Ogre I x5
I don't know why this is so hard to figure out.
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Chasida
Instant Annihilation
Northern Army
0
|
Posted - 2016.01.25 19:37:40 -
[51] - Quote
Jenn aSide wrote:[Vexor Navy Issue, Blood VNI - Shield]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Omnidirectional Tracking Enhancer II
Damage Control II
100MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner
Large Shield Extender I
Large Shield Extender I
Drone Navigation Computer I
Drone Link Augmentor I
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Ogre I x5
I don't know why this is so hard to figure out.
Do not have the ISK... |
Jenn aSide
Ascendent.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
13458
|
Posted - 2016.01.25 19:47:51 -
[52] - Quote
Chasida wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:[Vexor Navy Issue, Blood VNI - Shield]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Omnidirectional Tracking Enhancer II
Damage Control II
100MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner
Large Shield Extender I
Large Shield Extender I
Drone Navigation Computer I
Drone Link Augmentor I
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Ogre I x5
I don't know why this is so hard to figure out.
Do not have the ISK...
So you aren't in a corp? In an alliance that is supposed to be about new-ish players? When jumping in to null you either do so after you have established some way to earn income, OR you join a null sec group that gives you a hand up in these situations (Goons were famous for this).
Did you talke to your corp and/or people in your alliance chat before coming here?
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Chasida
Instant Annihilation
Northern Army
0
|
Posted - 2016.01.25 19:57:34 -
[53] - Quote
Jenn aSide wrote:Chasida wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:[Vexor Navy Issue, Blood VNI - Shield]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Omnidirectional Tracking Enhancer II
Damage Control II
100MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner
Large Shield Extender I
Large Shield Extender I
Drone Navigation Computer I
Drone Link Augmentor I
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Ogre I x5
I don't know why this is so hard to figure out.
Do not have the ISK... So you aren't in a corp? In an alliance that is supposed to be about new-ish players? When jumping in to null you either do so after you have established some way to earn income, OR you join a null sec group that gives you a hand up in these situations (Goons were famous for this). Did you talke to your corp and/or people in your alliance chat before coming here?
I am a returning player. I went down here and joined a corp too soon. I have already been given stuff, but not good enough to do highest belts/signatures, so I am earning isk very slowly. Plus I was stupid right after getting here, used too much isk on skill books, instead of a better ship. I am a returning noob, I have not played for years... |
Keno Skir
785
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Posted - 2016.01.25 20:06:51 -
[54] - Quote
Chasida wrote:Well I do not have ship in null sec that can earn me 'hundreds of millions in a few days', its not good enough. My current ship is capable of about 6 mill an hour or so.
I have played daily, many of those hours I have been scanning and doing data/relic sites, that sadly have not given me much value. I am now back to more normal ratting, but its slow...
Oh and btw: second account = 1 plex = 1.2 bill + I will be able to 'solo' more stuff (high/low sec)...
Dunno what more to say mate. You could use that plex to BUY YOURSELF THE F*%&ING SHIP YOU'VE BEEN GOING ON ABOUT :/
Oh and "btw" : Your 2nd account isn't doing smegg-all until you train it to be fairly good at something helpful which takes months. In this time you could already have solved your issue more than once by pulling your finger out and getting on with it.
Hate to say the T word but is anyone else getting under-bridge vibes here?
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Chasida
Instant Annihilation
Northern Army
0
|
Posted - 2016.01.25 20:34:38 -
[55] - Quote
Take a look at my first post. I was asking for advice on how to make isk in this game, because it was going SLOW for me. Far slower then I expected after all those patches after I left years back. I were honestly wondering what to do to make better isk. When I came down to null sec I was expecting far better rewards from ratting.
I said one option for me was to go back to high sec and make a second account, also asked twice which would be the best ships for me to duo with. But this is kinda my last resort, if I am not able to make more isk down in null sec.
I also wrote earlier today, the thread started heading down just one road very early on, by people that do not understand I cannot make 100 mill a day ratting in my current ship. I have used many hours doing data and relic sites, just to find out its not really worth it. And people just keep telling me over and over how stupid I am for not already having 100s of millions of isk, after I have tried to tell several times I do not have yet the isk to be in a ship able to do so.
I wouldnt be here in the first place makeing this post in the if I were able to farm Havens for '100s of millions isk a week'! Yes I know now (only the last few days, after trying several things) that to be able to make good isk in null sec I need to be able to do the highest combat sites (sadly nothing else is really worth it), but I have the last few days not been able to make isk enough to get me a good enough ship. Yes I have been given fittings that can do the job, but lack the isk, which I am trying to get by doing lower sites/belts...
And sorry if I came across as a troll, was never my intention... |
Jenn aSide
Ascendent.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
13463
|
Posted - 2016.01.25 20:43:18 -
[56] - Quote
Chasida wrote:
I am a returning player. I went down here and joined a corp too soon. I have already been given stuff, but not good enough to do highest belts/signatures, so I am earning isk very slowly. Plus I was stupid right after getting here, used too much isk on skill books, instead of a better ship. I am a returning noob, I have not played for years...
The 1st problem is you 'can't do' attitude. If you don't believe you can do anything, you can't, and we can't help you.
The ship i posted costs less than 100 million isk and can do Forsaken Hubs with ease. People are ratting in your space, to afford that ship buy this one:
[Catalyst, Salvager]
Small Tractor Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager I
Salvager I
Salvager I
Salvager I
1MN Microwarpdrive I
Cap Recharger I
Capacitor Power Relay I
Capacitor Power Relay I
Co-Processor I
Small Salvage Tackle I
Small Salvage Tackle I
Small Salvage Tackle I
Or something similar, any T1 destroyer works. Fleet up with someone doing anomalies that doesn't salvage. Salvage the sites they finish. In a couple days you'll have the isk for a better ratting ship.
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Jeet Kundo
Black Scorpions Inc
The Bastion
0
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Posted - 2016.01.26 00:37:42 -
[57] - Quote
I don't have incredible scanning skills, I've just recently returned myself. Just moving around in a low tier heron, I recently got a guristas tower BPC that, if I remember right, runs several million isk by itself; if you get it to Jita of course. Null sec and C1-C3 (if you can't take on sleeper sites in C4 and C5) wormholes have data and relic sites that can yield pretty consistent isk. If you're sticking to smaller ships, have some form of reimbursement, or not, the income from exploration is enough to fund those ventures so long as you don't believe that every ship you fly is as expendable as a tissue during a lonely night. |
Daniela Doran
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
382
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Posted - 2016.01.26 02:29:03 -
[58] - Quote
Chasida wrote:I am curious, since I need to make isk (returning player). I currently live in null sec alliance btw.
What is worth doing? Ice mining? Gas mining? PvP (not likely)? Missions (not likely, and will take weeks to get to high lvl missions)? Wormholing (does not look like it)? DED/cosmic sites (hasnt the market collapsed?)? Incursions? Scamming the trade market?
Sadly, listening to some players, the last one, scamming (and buying selling clearly wrongly priced items) may be the only way to make some fast isk in this game, but this is not my thing, neither in RL nor in a game.
The only other thing I know so far that may be a good income is incursions, but where I live (null sec), this is dangerous and need to team up more or less (or use a absurd expensive ship, which I do NOT have, nor can buy, nor will risk).
I am currently considering starting up a new account on my second computer (can play 2 at once), and was considering duoing WH/nullsec sites/incursions, but I am not sure its worth it after reading a lot of posts. Maybe I should just move back to high sec and hunt for incursions with 2 accounts?
I am honestly and sincerely in need of advice people, how can I make a good income of ISK in this game in its current state a la 2016?And what I mean by that is in the 100s of millions pr week, anything lower then easily 100-200 mills a week is waste of time, you can get that by one scam/lucky buy on the market.
I am a player that need to see advancement in the MMOs I play, or I just get frustrated and leave. So please help me out here; what should I put my time into doing to earn ISK!? And if its like gass mining or DED hunting, Incursions etc, please give me some good advice on ships to use (remember I can play 2 accounts/computers). I have read A LOT of posts about which ships to use, and I am going in circles! The main/current account is Caldari, have not made a second account yet.
Obi-wan Kenobi, I am in need of help...please help...
I'm getting lazy these days and don't even bother to salvage my missions anymore. If you're ever in Hi-Sec near Apanake, look me up and I'll let you salvage/loot my missions. You'll make 30-40 mill isk an hour on average doing just that.
You'll need to be able to use T2 salvagers and a Noctis though because I clear missions very quickly. |
Orlacc
941
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Posted - 2016.01.26 02:42:38 -
[59] - Quote
Somebody just give him some isk. That's what he is here for......
"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
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Neuntausend
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
538
|
Posted - 2016.01.26 02:49:02 -
[60] - Quote
Why do you keep going on about the "best sites"? You don't need to run the "best sites" right away. Do crappy sites. Salvage, Mine, Belt Rat. Even at 6M/h (and that's really bad - I suppose you could pull that off mining in a Venture. With the good advice you got here, you can make multiple times that) it takes about a week or two to finance a VNI. If you do not have the patience for that, this may not be the game for you.
And with a VNI, you can pull 50-ish million per hour.
But then again, you say you have less than 10M ISK, and you can make about 6M/h. That means, you didn't even manage 2 hours before making this thread. There's something to think about. |
SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
1699
|
Posted - 2016.01.26 03:13:35 -
[61] - Quote
Chasida wrote:Take a look at my first post. I was asking for advice on how to make isk in this game, because it was going SLOW for me. Far slower then I expected after all those patches after I left years back. I were honestly wondering what to do to make better isk. When I came down to null sec I was expecting far better rewards from ratting.
I said one option for me was to go back to high sec and make a second account, also asked twice which would be the best ships for me to duo with. But this is kinda my last resort, if I am not able to make more isk down in null sec.
I also wrote earlier today, the thread started heading down just one road very early on, by people that do not understand I cannot make 100 mill a day ratting in my current ship. I have used many hours doing data and relic sites, just to find out its not really worth it. And people just keep telling me over and over how stupid I am for not already having 100s of millions of isk, after I have tried to tell several times I do not have yet the isk to be in a ship able to do so.
I wouldnt be here in the first place makeing this post in the if I were able to farm Havens for '100s of millions isk a week'! Yes I know now (only the last few days, after trying several things) that to be able to make good isk in null sec I need to be able to do the highest combat sites (sadly nothing else is really worth it), but I have the last few days not been able to make isk enough to get me a good enough ship. Yes I have been given fittings that can do the job, but lack the isk, which I am trying to get by doing lower sites/belts...
And sorry if I came across as a troll, was never my intention...
100 million a week is basically in, "Here's some ISK I accidentally accumulated while floating around doing random ****," territory.
And relic sites in the right space still pay fairly well. I've pulled close to 100m from a single Sansha relic site in salvage alone.
"Help, I'm bored with missions!"
http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
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Jacques d'Orleans
The Scope
Gallente Federation
2567
|
Posted - 2016.01.26 03:15:29 -
[62] - Quote
Chasida wrote:Well I do not have ship in null sec that can earn me 'hundreds of millions in a few days', its not good enough. My current ship is capable of about 6 mill an hour or so.
6M isk/hour, three hours a day is 18M/day, which is 126M isk/week.
So if that's not enough for a start, i don't know. |
Greenbaumberk
Starfighter Command
Most Usual Suspects
0
|
Posted - 2016.01.26 09:45:56 -
[63] - Quote
I was thrown into nullsec as a bloody noob who had no idea of anything and pretty limited assets.
After a week of getting used to the sites i was able to pull billions out of it with every activity so many players have recommended in this thread.
You dont have to have the best and most blingiest ships. Some relic sites net really much isk.
Just dont expect to get spacerich after two days. |
Chasida
Instant Annihilation
Northern Army
0
|
Posted - 2016.01.26 12:40:00 -
[64] - Quote
Its good to hear that Relic/Data sites can be worth the time! So far sadly I have not been lucky, or maybe I have been, I just do not know it, because I have no clue what normal data/relic site loot is worth. In my area I have found nothing to have any value to speak of when I search market with a relic/data site items. Checked some prices on Jita also, being worth close to nothing. Sure I know, I can read the estimated value of my cargo hold after a few site and it can say for example 20 mills, but the problem is there is no market for it, its not like I got that amount in isk in my cargo, I cannot just sell it all in a station.
What items from Relic sites are worth anything?
From data sites I know, it can give BPCs that can give good money. So far I have encountered 4 BPCs, 3 I got, 1 blew up. None of them sadly was worth anything to speak of. And this is after about 20 hours or so doing data/relic sites. So to get anything of value, a good amount of luck is needed (I have been able to hack almost all cans I have found, very few blew up). So the difference from making a few mill in 'normal loot items' and a few 100 mils from a BPC is a huge amount of luck.
Greenbaumberk, thank you for your reply, but your kind of answer is what typical frustrate me. For you to bring in BILLIONS of isk (billionS is not 1000 mill, its 1000S of millS, plural, making 1 bill is FAR from making billionS <- plural) out of null sec in a week with limitless resources, you need an huge amount of luck, and help. First you need to get a ship able to actually do the best Signatues/DEDs (this is a ship worth close to 100 mill or more, this alone will take hours to get starting from 0 or just a few mills, most likely a couple weeks for many players that arent given the ship), and then you need a lot of luck to get very rare BPCs from data sites/and or rare drops from combat/DED sites. This is not normal at all, and not something the normal average player will experience! I have done hours of belt ratting and combat sites, not seen 1 single rare valuable item. And as I wrote, I have also done many hours of data/relic sites, and not gotten 1 valuable item. So this is not the normal, its the exception.
So posts like that is very miss-leading and borderline false. Its like saying in real life that everybody can earn millions of dollars in a week, when you base that of you winning the lottery...in other words not realistic and is based on pure luck (or someone giving you the winning numbers). And no I am not flaming you, but I am 'alergic' to these kind of 'blanket statement' replies on MMO forums, which are in fact sadly very common (I play/have played several MMOs). They only lead to people getting very unrealistic expectations in MMOs, just to get very disapointed and frustrated later on when they do not even remotely experience the same thing.
No offense.
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Greenbaumberk
Starfighter Command
Most Usual Suspects
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Posted - 2016.01.26 16:09:58 -
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Sorry I didnt mean to offend you.
I made the billions in the weeks after I settled in.
I started with a really ****** T1 fitted myrmidon. I also had two unused slots on that ship in the beginning. My second ship was a Magnate with mediocore scanning and hacking skills and T1 hacking equipment.
Relic sites had been worth from 4-80 million per site. With an average of 20 million or so per site. Sometimes i got lucky and found BPCs. The most expensive of that was sold for 300 million via contract.
On top of that i mined ice, with mediocore skills in a procurer.
Even with my limited time, i had back then in 2014, it was pretty easy to make good money in nullsec. |
Chasida
Instant Annihilation
Northern Army
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Posted - 2016.01.27 06:55:14 -
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Greenbaumberk wrote:Sorry I didnt mean to offend you.
I made the billions in the weeks after I settled in.
I started with a really ****** T1 fitted myrmidon. I also had two unused slots on that ship in the beginning. My second ship was a Magnate with mediocore scanning and hacking skills and T1 hacking equipment.
Relic sites had been worth from 4-80 million per site. With an average of 20 million or so per site. Sometimes i got lucky and found BPCs. The most expensive of that was sold for 300 million via contract.
On top of that i mined ice, with mediocore skills in a procurer.
Even with my limited time, i had back then in 2014, it was pretty easy to make good money in nullsec.
None taken! How do you calculate relic sites are worth that much pr site (or for that matter data sites)? Which items are the good ones? Or are in in an area with a lot of people buying the stuff in null/low sec? I know datacores from data sites are used for research, but never got the impression it was even remotely that much worth... |
Neuntausend
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
553
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Posted - 2016.01.27 11:07:29 -
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Chasida wrote:First you need to get a ship able to actually do the best Signatues/DEDs (this is a ship worth close to 100 mill or more, this alone will take hours to get starting from 0 or just a few mills, most likely a couple weeks
Oh no! Multiple hours or even a couple of weeks to reach high end content in an MMOG?! That's really harsh! Unheard of!
Forgive me for being sarcastic, but to me it sounds like you want to go from nothing to space rich without putting any effort into it. I am sorry, that's not going to happen.
Get to work man! In the time frame of this thread, living in nullsec, most players would have been able to finance a VNI to run Havens and FHubs.
If the market in your space is terrible, ... well, don't try to sell your loot in your space. Find a way to get it out. Gather up a bunch of loot, Talk to your Corp- and Alliance members and one of them will sure know a way to get your stuff to Jita. Especially when it's just blueprints and maybe a bit of salvage, you could cram a courier contract into about any jump freighter that's headed to jita anyway - they probably won't charge you an arm and a leg for that. (and if they do - abandon ship and move on)
Then clone jump there and sell your stuff. |
Jacques d'Orleans
The Scope
Gallente Federation
2572
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Posted - 2016.01.27 11:52:50 -
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OP tbh, i think you are a hopeless cause, but somehow i like hopeless causes!
Serious advice: Don't waste your time losing shytefitted ships, go mining or take the advice the others in here gave you. |
Thorian Baalnorn
Bad Influence
I N G L O R I O U S
38
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Posted - 2016.01.27 13:42:53 -
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You could take a brand new alt, train for about 3 months , and make 50-100 mil an hour. In the time you were training that alt you could get in a cheap ship and piddle around empire and make a few hundred million to buy and fit the ship you will need to make that kind of money.
As for selling loot. Most often the place that pays the most for direct selling is jita. sometimes one of the other trade hubs will pay a little more, but not often. Is it worth running to jita or your local hub? Thats what eveprasial is for.
Shooting Structures = PVP Mining
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