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Rana Ash
Gradient
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Posted - 2016.01.24 18:07:40 -
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So I am posing this question to the Devs and community
I have been questing around, but could only find speculations. And it seems most just refer to spirituality, have any of you seen anything about named gods/goddesses?.
Like the greeks had, zeus and all that. I find spirits to be kinda vague, and it made me wonder if anything like the greek pantheon of gods made it thru the eve gate. |
Izi Ningishzidda
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.01.25 04:47:13 -
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Rana Ash wrote:So I am posing this question to the Devs and community
I have been questing around, but could only find speculations. And it seems most just refer to spirituality, have any of you seen anything about named gods/goddesses?.
Like the greeks had, zeus and all that. I find spirits to be kinda vague, and it made me wonder if anything like the greek pantheon of gods made it thru the eve gate.
I have heard of some deities being bantered around Matari lore. Its ok to reference any deity from earth since the Gallente are historically pagan and name their ships after that. Matari had their history and culture erased by the Amarr, but they are friendly with the Gallente so you could pick any ship name God to worship, to be on the safe side, or one from Earth if you didn't want to be cautious with your RP.
Also there are Eve-only gods that got started by the players, like Bob the Wormhole folk deity and The Mittani. |
Pix Severus
Empty You
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Posted - 2016.01.25 04:51:19 -
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I believe the Matari worship a god called "Rust".
I hear them mention his name a lot, some phrases include "Trust in the Rust".
My lord.
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Alphea Abbra
Grim Determination Violence of Action.
850
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Posted - 2016.01.25 07:18:39 -
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Minmatar ships have plenty of references to Norse mythology, such as Loki, Hel or Gjallarhorn. I haven't seen anything that explicitly states it has anything to do with an actual religion, but it's clear that the Matari culture went, at least party, back to the Norse to find an origin. If you want to have specific gods, the Norse mythology is a better place to look than Greek mythology.
Other than that, I personally think that there are two Matari gods. Pix mentions Rust, and I'll offer up Artillery as the second, especially in the 1400mm or Quad 3500mm versions. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
5680
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Posted - 2016.01.25 07:57:14 -
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Well, there is always Bob. He doesn't care where you came from, just that your path crosses his turf.
Even CCP have acknowledged him:
"Bob has spoken: the spawn rate and lifetime of some wormhole connections to Nullsec space have changed." - Patch notes for Aegis.
"You quickly learned the secrets of wormhole spawning and static connections, developed techniques for long-term starbase living that nobody had ever seen before, and created your own set of social norms, vocabulary, and even a shared religion." - Dev Blog, "Into the known unknowns"
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Jacques d'Orleans
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.01.25 08:51:13 -
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Pix Severus wrote:I believe the Matari worship a god called "Rust".
I hear them mention his name a lot, some phrases include "Trust in the Rust".
Me thinks that they have two gods: Rust and duct tape.
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Rana Ash
Gradient
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Posted - 2016.01.25 17:20:16 -
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Thank you Izi Ningishzidda and Alphea Abbra you both made interesting points, interestingly I have not heard anything about this bob mentiond.
Worshipping rust and/ or duct tape seems a bit iffy , so many things that can go wrong. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2016.01.25 17:33:31 -
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Rana Ash wrote:Thank you Izi Ningishzidda and Alphea Abbra you both made interesting points, interestingly I have not heard anything about this bob mentiond. Worshipping rust and/ or duct tape seems a bit iffy , so many things that can go wrong. Burn the infidel..
To save your soul medical clone you need to enlighten yourself.
An introduction to Bob Eve has a religion How to properly honour Bob
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Tisiphone Dira
WiNGSPAN Academy for Enterprising Pilots The WINGSPAN Logo Alliance
585
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Posted - 2016.01.25 18:07:09 -
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Rana Ash wrote:Thank you Izi Ningishzidda and Alphea Abbra you both made interesting points, interestingly I have not heard anything about this bob mentiond. Worshipping rust and/ or duct tape seems a bit iffy , so many things that can go wrong.
It a lack of faith like that that gets you blown up.
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morion
Lighting Build
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Posted - 2016.01.25 18:11:42 -
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Tribal joke
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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
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Posted - 2016.01.25 18:29:17 -
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Look around, most, if not all but a scant few, ships in Eve are named after some Norse or Greek God or Goddess, animal, or mythical creature of Earth legend. So, in fact it would be harder to find a ship in Eve that wasn't given a name from such origins. Eve is technically in the same universe as ours, just a couple dozen millennium in the future, so those names are not out of place by any means nor a breach of lore for them to exist in Eve's cultures.
Vargur still escapes me, though. Can't find a damn thing on that one.
"Tomahawks?"
"----in' A, right?"
"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."
"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
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Rona Akiga
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.01.25 19:38:39 -
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Rana Ash wrote:So I am posing this question to the Devs and community
I have been questing around, but could only find speculations. And it seems most just refer to spirituality, have any of you seen anything about named gods/goddesses?.
Like the greeks had, zeus and all that. I find spirits to be kinda vague, and it made me wonder if anything like the greek pantheon of gods made it thru the eve gate.
ALot of minmatars are very spiritual. many of them say Bob is real. maybe you should ask in Intergalactic Summit |
Christian Nolen
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.01.25 20:38:36 -
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Sobaan Tali wrote: Vargur still escapes me, though. Can't find a damn thing on that one.
It's just Icelandic (thus also with Old Norse roots) for 'wolf' or 'destroyer.' |
ArmyOfMe
BANISHED. The WeHurt Initiative
575
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Posted - 2016.01.25 20:50:57 -
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Sobaan Tali wrote:
Vargur still escapes me, though. Can't find a damn thing on that one.
Its a wolf (Varg). Its a name used in most nordic countrys as far as i know.
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Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
535
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Posted - 2016.01.25 21:23:41 -
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Izi Ningishzidda wrote:I have heard of some deities being bantered around Matari lore. Its ok to reference any deity from earth since the Gallente are historically pagan and name their ships after that.
On the Minmatar side, there's Sleipnir, Svipul, Loki, Huginn, Munin, Nidhoggur, Hel and in a sense Vargur as well, which can at least be classified as mythological, if not divine creatures. Then there's the Bifr+¦st, which is the bridge connecting the realms of men to the realms of gods, the Naglfar, which is a mythological ship, heralding the coming of Ragnarok, which is the twilight of the gods. So, even though the Minmatar may not have a common religion at this point, their mythology has not completely been lost over the millennia.
On top of that - Wolf, Jaguar, Panther and Mastodon are creatures that very likely don't exist in New Eden, and probably never have. After several thousand years and a long "dark age", I would think they might count as myths as well. |
Jacques d'Orleans
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.01.26 03:34:15 -
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Sobaan Tali wrote: Vargur still escapes me, though. Can't find a damn thing on that one.
IIRC, Vargur is icelandic for Wolf.
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Ibutho Inkosi
Irubo Kovu
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Posted - 2016.01.26 08:28:59 -
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Here! Me! Present! What do you need, someone turned to dust; a lady perhaps isn't returning your overtures? Just get on your knees and swear fealty to my image and I'll get on any requests you have right away.
All hail (what was my name again?)
As long as the tale of the hunt is told by the hunter, and not the lion, it will favor the hunter.
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Telegram Sam
Crom's Angels
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Posted - 2016.01.26 19:41:30 -
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Here's a list of EVE ships and items that reference Earth things. As people said, lots of Greek and Norse mythology entities, and also some Celtic, Sumerian and Japanese. Also lots of mammals, birds and reptiles. But no fish or amphibians, I don't think. The list doesn't include drones' names, though. Also no potatoes. We didn't know about those until the counterfeit Gallente model ship kit item at Christmas. |
Chopper Rollins
Lantean Empire
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Posted - 2016.01.26 23:10:40 -
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While tribal life generally makes independent thought impossible, we're looking down at billions of people scattered across hundreds of worlds. So somewhere, on the oceans of a temperate planet in lowsec, or in a green canyon on a barren world there has to be a few million people who've stumbled across some version of Zen. Then had it modified by tribal elders so that it doesn't interfere with the ability to perform violent acts, since millennia haven't moved us ethically much further than bacteria in our outlook. Religion, the socially cohesive expression of spirituality, a socially corrosive experience, is little more than light entertainment and decoration to people who need to destroy their own kind.
PS With the huge scale of populations out there, i've always wondered how people either generalise or hesitate to make up niche details with their RP.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
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Posted - 2016.01.27 00:55:34 -
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A wolf, huh? Awesome, thanks for the info guys. Now I feel complete.
"Tomahawks?"
"----in' A, right?"
"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."
"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
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Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
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Posted - 2016.01.27 07:14:18 -
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Something I read today in evelopedia about the Matar homeworld is that some Minmatar refer to Matar as "Old Mother"
I don't know if they have a God, I've always imagined the tribes to be animistic, probably even henotheistic. Belief that the ground, the plants, the stars have a spiritual energy kind of thing.
Tribal culture
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Jill Xelitras
Xeltec services
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Posted - 2016.01.27 10:51:43 -
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I asked my Sebiestor friend what he believes in or worships.
He said he only trusts in scientific analysis and the power of money.
Don't anger the forum gods.
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> I Saw, I came, I Frowned, I locked, I posted, and I left.
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Rana Ash
Gradient
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Posted - 2016.01.27 22:10:04 -
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Thank you for all the replies
I did think of the ship names, but i am a little skittish to start using a nordic pantheon. Perhaps it is adaptable and in some way make it something spiritual with nordic influences. The canon stuff is quite silent about it, maybe Falcon can add a hint or two. Just saying spiritual invokes a lot of differnt ideas in people, everyone has their own idea as to what that intails.. |
Tiddle Jr
Brutor tribe Minmatar Republic
751
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Posted - 2016.01.27 22:18:37 -
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Odin. Strange but noone mentioned chief of staff. |
Teinyhr
Ourumur
538
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Posted - 2016.01.27 22:22:00 -
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https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Sebiestor_spiritual_beliefs
Certainly might not apply to all the tribes, but most likely the animistic view is somewhat similer in most other tribes as well. |
Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
563
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Posted - 2016.01.28 01:39:54 -
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Tiddle Jr wrote:Odin. Strange but noone mentioned chief of staff.
That term doesn't appear anywhere in the game or lore, though. Or does it? |
Telegram Sam
Crom's Angels
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Posted - 2016.01.28 01:52:19 -
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No, seems CCP wisely chose not to go so far as invoking that name. OP, come over to Eve Fiction forum, where we lore folk ponder and debate about these theoretical things. |
Jill Xelitras
Xeltec services
524
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Posted - 2016.01.28 02:06:19 -
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Gaia Theory from the movie Final Fantasy: Spirits within is something I could adhere to. Especially if we get to shoot giant alien ghosts.
Don't anger the forum gods.
ISD Buldath:
> I Saw, I came, I Frowned, I locked, I posted, and I left.
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