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Dom Arkaral
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Posted - 2016.02.02 03:29:20 -
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+1
Also you Anti-Gankers need to realise that there's more to EVE than Highsec and CODE. lol gut rekt
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Posted - 2016.02.02 04:02:07 -
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Haidere wrote:Definitely a good idea, will cut down on accidentally targeting/destroying wrecks, my 2 isk though, leave wrecks that were the victims of a gank remain very low. A gank is a kill, the game doesn't care if it was a suicide gank or not. A kill is a kill.
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Posted - 2016.02.03 18:05:20 -
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[quote=Borat Guereen Even if increasing the HP of wrecks based on sizes makes sense logically, why not make other "logical" changes like adding damages to bumping, or removing bumping from the game altogether. Of course, goons/CODE only want to think logically when it benefits them.
[/quote] Bumping isn't only being used by CODE. or GSF in HS.. you're one of these "one more nurf or i quits" kind of person eh?
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Posted - 2016.02.05 16:26:48 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:So just to be totally clear, there was basically one thing that anti-gankers could do that was even remotely effective at combating ganks - which even then was only possible after the gank - and that's now going (or to be more accurate, being made significantly harder)? I honestly can't wait to see how ganker carebears try to spin this into not being another buff to ganking . Ganker carebears ? Who are you aiming your gun at? Lol
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Posted - 2016.02.05 17:10:59 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:So just to be totally clear, there was basically one thing that anti-gankers could do that was even remotely effective at combating ganks - which even then was only possible after the gank - and that's now going (or to be more accurate, being made significantly harder)? I honestly can't wait to see how ganker carebears try to spin this into not being another buff to ganking . Ganker carebears ? Who are you aiming your gun at? Lol Gankers are invariably carebears, this is just the way it is. Think about it, they hide in highsec, fly only cheap disposable ships, only go after weak targets and freak out on the forums when anyone suggests giving other people more ways to fight back, increasing their risk or decreasing their reward. The only difference between them and a mission runner that cries on the forum a lot is the colour of the icons they are shooting at. Carebears can't stand up for themselves.. Gankers, and pretty much every one else can. It's so easy to screw up ganks but carebears are too deep in their spreadsheets to think
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Posted - 2016.02.05 17:30:35 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:tears of a banned input multiplex ice miner Carebears can't stand up for themselves.. Gankers, and pretty much every one else can. It's so easy to screw up ganks but carebears are too deep in their spreadsheets to think Dom. Lucas is a guy who is really buthurt because his input multiplex ice mining cheat fleet got banned. He is just here to troll and push bad ideas to destroy EVE for the rest of us. The best thing you can do is simply ignore him so we don't have to endur another debate which will lead to nothing anyway, trust me. Ohhhhh ty for letting me know
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Posted - 2016.02.05 18:09:52 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Carebears can't stand up for themselves.. Gankers, and pretty much every one else can. It's so easy to screw up ganks but carebears are too deep in their spreadsheets to think Well that's really not the way it works. Try anti-ganking. Like seriously, go out and actually try to prove that it's easy. I think you'd surprise yourself. Dom Arkaral wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Dom.
Lucas is a guy who is really buthurt because his input multiplex ice mining cheat fleet got banned. He is just here to troll and push bad ideas to destroy EVE for the rest of us. The best thing you can do is simply ignore him so we don't have to endur another debate which will lead to nothing anyway, trust me. Ohhhhh ty for letting me know This is Imas go to insult, unfortunately not even remotely based in reality. Not being an ISBoxer user, the isboxing ban didn't affect me even remotely, but apparently because I think it's better for CCP to implement dynamic, difficult to multibox gameplay while he thinks that throwing in vague EULA clauses is a better idea, he's decided I'm the enemy. Since he can't form a coherent argument he instead yells "It's tears about Isboxer" repeatedly. In this instance, I'd love to see better ways for anti-gankers and gankers to clash generating real solid content, but because that would be adding challenge for gankers, they (being the carebears they are) can't handle that and start back in at insulting the character of the people making the valid arguments. Jesus the salt, And no I will not go against my brothers, for I respect the work they do. And you fail antigankers are still playing because of content creators like CODE.
Deal with it
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Posted - 2016.02.06 21:31:45 -
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baltec1 wrote:Sgt Ocker wrote:
Those are? What mechanic allows someone to kill a bumper without getting Concorded - War dec, LOL they are the best joke next to ganking.
You don't need to kill him to beat him. A simple web ship defeats a bumping ship before it can even get up to speed. Lucas Kell wrote:By all means baltec, start up an anti-ganking group and show us all how it's done. If you did (which undoubtedly you won't because that would involve effort) I don't suppose it would take long for you to realise how utterly stacked against you the odds are. According to the Red Freight stats for 2015 they failed 0.11% of contracts in total. If anyone has the odds stacked against them its the pirates.
but a webbing alt is soooooo hard to get
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Posted - 2016.02.06 23:55:43 -
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Rhamnousia Nosferatu wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:but a webbing alt is soooooo hard to get So, what you're saying is that having a second account is your only solution for a mechanic like bumping where a single player can basically keep you unable to warp off indefinitely and in which you (as a freighter pilot) can do absolutely nothing to (through active play) avoid further bumps.
every pilot ends up having more than one account and my solution is easy, let someone else do it (Like Siggy <3)
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Posted - 2016.02.07 02:00:51 -
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Rhamnousia Nosferatu wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote: every pilot ends up having more than one account
A simple "yes" would suffice. no need to get mad lol
CODE. Always wins!
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Posted - 2016.02.08 16:33:15 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:[quote=Gully Alex Foyle]The balance isn't between ganking and anti-ganking.
It's between the gankers and the 'gankee' (e.g. freighter). It takes:
. 1 ship (webber) to reduce gank probability to almost zero, 1 human player can easily manage both webber and freighter . About a dozen or so ships/players to attempt a successful freighter gank
Seems quite favorable to the freighter to me. Charging freighter pilots like CODE does? I think a dozen or so competent dudes could easily shut off ganking in a system like Uedama with ECM, reps, concord spawning (if it's legit), some spying (ganker fleets are quite open, aren't they?), etc.
They try to rep, ecm, and they still fail... Failing is pretty much the only thing they're good at (oh and whining on the forums)
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Posted - 2016.02.08 21:36:09 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:baltec1 wrote:Again, red freight has a 99.9% success rate and sell their service very well. There is your evidence that its not only possible to beat gankers but to render them a none issue. Except as we've already covered, it doesn't. All it shows is there are vastly more hauler trips than gank attempts. The fact that Red Frog cannot operate as normal during Burn Jita categorically proves that they cannot render gankers a non issue. Why don't you fetch some statistics on how many ganks occur vs how many anti-gank attempts are successful. As your side of this discussion is keen to point out, the only thing AGs are good at is failing, so I think you'll find similar numbers there. Masao Kurata wrote:Why should I do your job for you? I'm a ganker and I like most of my fellow gankers. To date none have annoyed me enough to want to ruin their days at the expense of less bears dying. In other words, you can't prove it and your suggestion that competence is the issue is nothing more than a desperate attack. Thanks for playing, try harder next time. Anthar Thebess wrote:How many freighters are killed by suicide gank fleets outside of +2j from uedama or niarja? Few per month. If someone is choosing to move a freighter by a known gank system it is his decision. Well technically it's CCPs decision since they specifically designed the flow of highsec to create bottlenecks when moving between faction controlled areas. That still has no impact however on the fact that anti-gankers have very little in the way of balanced mechanics to compare with gankers.
AG can be good, if they can get decent FCS, enough people willing to rep or alpha or whatever
But AG kicks everyone that has a clue about the game, so AG will stay bad
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Posted - 2016.02.09 13:03:37 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Masao Kurata wrote:Stop whining, get good. You even complain about the disadvantages gankers have to overcome as if they were advantages, calling it a miracle if you're on the same grid (there are ways to guarantee this and ways to practically guarantee this) because a gank has to take 25 seconds or less in 0.5, or 10 in 1.0. You DO realise that having to win a fight in 25 seconds or you lose (and losing your ship even if you win) is a HUGE mechanical disadvantage, right? Then prove it. You keep claiming that it's all down to skill yet you refuse to prove it, and by some miracle not a single other skilled players has managed to prove it either. According to you, everything is balanced but for some unknown reason, skilled players gravitate towards ganking and completely avoid anti-ganking. Do you not know how ridiculous that sounds? Newsflash buddy, you're not a skilled player, you simply pick easy tasks. And you're an NPC alt to boot. Dude, just stop I don't even want to read all the sad replies you give to people who understand legit game mechanics. And quoting you, you're not a skilled player either, nor a constructive one... so please go back to mining and let the big boys handle the big stuff
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Posted - 2016.02.09 13:35:50 -
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baltec1 wrote:Anthar Thebess wrote:baltec1 wrote: "Red Frog Freight failed contracts 245, representing about 0.11% of all contracts issued."
This is not connected only to ganks. Sometimes contracts are overdue as hauling guy took to much on himself or his internet provider failed. Yes it does cover everything from cargo blow up to people removing the contract before it was finished. Still a very small number, considering the number of contracts they accept and successfully deliver :D
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Posted - 2016.02.09 13:49:35 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:baltec1 wrote:"No no no all of those successful freight trips don't count because they took steps to counter gankers and didn't die" Seriously guy, you know the difference between hauling and anti-ganking as a playstyle. You're just being deliberately obtuse because you can't come up with a decent counterpoint and the reason you can't do that is because there is no good reason why there shouldn't be more active gameplay between gankers and anti-gankers.
Hey guy, is this a post about CODE. and aanti-ganking? No it's a post about wreck hp buff... and that concerns everyone ingame. The ONLY people I saw hating on this buff is AG.
Now let's get back on the main subject, before this gets locked up because of off-topic posting....
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Posted - 2016.02.09 14:04:28 -
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Anthar Thebess wrote:Antiganking and ganking is role playing in eve. To do both you need to dedicate lot of time. I also gank, mostly tornado or vexor. If i sit for 8 hours on the gate waiting and scanning for target i don't expect for antiganking to be less time consuming.
Want to be good antiganker? Patrol gank areas 8 hours a day with friends. Battlecruisers are used for ganking freighters, pilots have kill rights or less than -5 sec status. Why you don't insta point them in a svipul or loki and then kill them? 5 guys can easily disrupt most of the ganks this way - just by fitting 2 points on each ship you remove 10 battlecruisers from the gank fleet. Don't want to pay isk to activate kill right? Even when this is sole purpose of this mechanic. Form alliance, and ask all freighter pilots to put kill rights to this alliance for 0 isk.
How many times i had 10mil kill right on my tornado, and for 2 days no one cared to claim it?
Effort, this is what you are missing in antiganking.
+1
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Posted - 2016.02.09 14:05:42 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Hey guy, is this a post about CODE. and aanti-ganking? No it's a post about wreck hp buff... and that concerns everyone ingame. The ONLY people I saw hating on this buff is AG. That's because it's a direct nerf to one of the few things AGs could do to negatively affect gankers. If this were balanced out with improvements in other areas to make active anti-ganking more viable, it wouldn't be so bad a change. Without that though it's a kick in the nuts to a group that's already laying on the floor.
This buff is bigger than you, Anti-Ganking and CODE. Get over it
And like Tora would say, Adapt or Die
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Posted - 2016.02.09 14:23:52 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:This buff is bigger than you, Anti-Ganking and CODE. Get over it
And like Tora would say, Adapt or Die Tora would generally be pro-content too I imagine though, whereas you seem to be against the idea of having a viable opposing team to fight. Stop being such a carebear.
Lol says the Internet tearrorist
I know plenty of SMA that gank, I have ganked on my scout. Maybe it's time you tried it instead of making a fool of yourself on the forums... Htfu or gtfo
Seriously
Ty
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Posted - 2016.02.09 14:33:25 -
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Anthar Thebess wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:OK, so prove it. Because the way it looks at the moment, even though this is obvious advice, not a single anti-ganker has managed to pull this off. This is a problem, you need more than 1 person to do it. Try armor HIC that have insta lock, they scram at 32km range can mount 5 hic scrams. 3 people sitting at gate can capture up to 15 gank ships. HICs can only mount one bubble mod... (those that have infinite point with the script) Sorry
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Posted - 2016.02.09 14:44:55 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:I know plenty of SMA that gank, I have ganked on my scout. Maybe it's time you tried it instead of making a fool of yourself on the forums... I do. Stop being terrible. Prove it
Lol bring it son, I'll be waiting for ya :)
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Posted - 2016.02.09 14:55:50 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Masao Kurata wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:OK, so save me the effort of doing it myself. FTFY. He's the one making the wild claim that anti-ganking is easy. I've given it a try and seen that it's not as easy as it seems, and all the player failing at anti-ganking daily would seem to be further proof. If he wants me to take this claim seriously he needs to provide evidence of anti-gankers succeeding somewhat consistently under the current mechanics. He won't though because he can't. Dom Arkaral wrote:Prove it
Lol bring it son, I'll be waiting for ya :) I'm sure there's some on this characters killboard somewhere. If not try my alt Argus Kell, he's definitely got some from Burn Jita. Can't remember which alts I used during Burn Amarr, none on my remaining active accounts I'm pretty sure. Well that was easy. Lol are those the only time you actually ganked? Did you ever solo gank anything or do a small freighter fleet?
If those are the only ganking events you did, you clearly have no clue about ganking lol
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Posted - 2016.02.09 15:07:00 -
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Anthar Thebess wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Anthar Thebess wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:OK, so prove it. Because the way it looks at the moment, even though this is obvious advice, not a single anti-ganker has managed to pull this off. This is a problem, you need more than 1 person to do it. Try armor HIC that have insta lock, they scram at 32km range can mount 5 hic scrams. 3 people sitting at gate can capture up to 15 gank ships. HICs can only mount one bubble mod... (those that have infinite point with the script) Sorry ????? My broadsword have 5 scrams. Not the warp disruption field generators
And if you do, how do you shoot stuff? Lol
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Posted - 2016.02.09 15:28:11 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Lol are those the only time you actually ganked? Did you ever solo gank anything or do a small freighter fleet?
If those are the only ganking events you did, you clearly have no clue about ganking lol I've done loads of different type, I just have 20 accounts, so trying to keep track of which character did what and when isn't the easiest of tasks. I've done most types though, solo a dualbox miner ganking, solo alpha ganking autopiloters, large and small group freighter ganking, I FCed a few back during one of the interdictions too. That said, you're attempting to attack my knowledge of ganking for what reason exactly? Even if I'd never ganked a single ship, the incredible lack of successful anti-gankers speaks of itself. Out of curiosity, would you really be against them making anti-ganking more viable? Like under all circumstances? What if they made ganking in general easier but gave people more tools to actively defend ships so that there was a much more active and dynamic fight? It's up to anti-gankers to make themselves relevant. It's not CCP's job to nerf everything to make you guys relevant...
I'm all for dynamic content, but you have to understand that a bunch of lazy forum warriors won't get action until they decide to go get some.
People 4 years ago said that CODE. wouldn't last until the end of the year. Why did they succeed? They had people with one goal to rid highsec of bots. They worked hard to get where they are today, they adapted to every nerf CCP threw at them, that's why they're still standing. It's the Darwin Law, only the strong survive.
That being said, CODE. started small, but AG rushed straight to a point where failure was inevitable. So there's your inspiration for today.
So go make yourself some content
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Posted - 2016.02.09 15:44:13 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:It's up to anti-gankers to make themselves relevant. It's not CCP's job to nerf everything to make you guys relevant... Right, and in my opinion current mechanics make it impossible for anti-gankers to make themselves relevant. You also need to stop saying "you guys" since I don't anti-gank since I'm not a masochist. I, like most sane people, can see that there's no point in even attempting it in it's current state. Dom Arkaral wrote:Why did they succeed? They had people with one goal to rid highsec of bots. This is demonstably false. CODE actually go after people who provide them with tears and tend to ignore the people that are more likely to actually be bots. In a way CODE actually support bots by removing their competition. Dom Arkaral wrote:So go make yourself some content I do, by not anti-ganking. And that's a shame. You're an anti-ganker otherwise you wouldn't be unleashing a sea of salty tears
And yes, at it's humble beginnings CODE. hunted bots. But they evolved, adapted to become what they now are
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Posted - 2016.02.09 16:07:30 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:You're an anti-ganker otherwise you wouldn't be unleashing a sea of salty tears Oh you're one of those people. Apologies I didn't realise. Not every opinion that opposes your own is "tears" and believe it or not it's actually possible for people to have opinions about mechanics they don't actively use. Dom Arkaral wrote:And yes, at it's humble beginnings CODE. hunted bots. But they evolved, adapted to become what they now are No, at it's humble beginnings it was a guy rageposting because CCP buffed miners. Effectively it was proof that complaining on the forums can at least to some extent work, which is why it's always funny when CODE members tell people to HFTU and stop posting on the forum. All of the "but the bots" stuff was just propaganda to turn people against miners in general, while in reality actual botters have always been the targets you are least likely to hunt. Man, I really love the tears, keep sending them
Also, of course we don't find bots... they're all banned lmao And those that aren't are never too far from a ban :D
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Posted - 2016.02.09 17:54:32 -
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Masao Kurata wrote:Okay you asked for it, HERE is why AG is useless: you actively drive off competent players. The few who have any inclination of helping your insane agenda or making you better players either leave because you're such a toxic and negative community or get banned from your channel and blocked by half of you because they have actual experience with highsec content creation. AG is a bunch of angry miners and ratters who don't want to learn anything about pvp, especially highsec pvp, and feel that CCP should just hand everything to them on a plate. AMEN
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Posted - 2016.02.09 20:03:26 -
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Lol last time I went to AG chan: "Me: hi You plebs: OMG HE HAS A MINING PERMIT. HE'S A SPY KICK HIM FOREVER
So that supports the fact you'll kick anyone even if they're only permit holders (which doesn't mean shiz really)
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Posted - 2016.02.09 21:03:30 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Masao Kurata wrote:Or y'know when you just try to answer questions, correct misunderstandings, teach mechanics relevant to the discussion or suggest tactics. Purely based on your responses in this thread, I very much doubt you were as reasonable as you say. Masao Kurata wrote:Not my war, my war's against carebears. Sound's perfect, it's pretty obvious that's what gankers are. Dom Arkaral wrote:Lol last time I went to AG chan: "Me: hi You plebs: OMG HE HAS A MINING PERMIT. HE'S A SPY KICK HIM FOREVER
So that supports the fact you'll kick anyone even if they're only permit holders (which doesn't mean shiz really) Well actually it means a fair bit. Not to mention that they have code members coming in to troll quite frequently, it's no surprise they have zero tolerance for code members showing up. Permit holder =/= CODE. Member or New Order supporter... Some folks just get it to get some peace
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Posted - 2016.02.12 12:29:12 -
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Lucas Kell The change went through, get over it or gtfo
There's nothing left to talk about here CCPlease lock this tearnought
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Posted - 2016.02.12 13:55:53 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Lucas Kell The change went through, get over it or gtfo
There's nothing left to talk about here CCPlease lock this tearnought There clearly is something for people to talk about hence the continued discussion (and the counter being planned by CCP). If you don't want to be part of it, then don't. Threads don't have to be locked just because you don't want to post in or read them.
This thread isn't about the change since page 5, it's now about anti-ganking and you telling people to prove you wrong.......
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Posted - 2016.02.12 15:08:02 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:This thread isn't about the change since page 5, it's now about anti-ganking The change directly affects anti-ganking so it follows. Again though, if it offends you so to read it, don't. Anti-Ganking = saving the freighter AG =/= killing that freighter's possessions
Lol
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Posted - 2016.02.12 16:04:52 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Anti-Ganking = saving the freighter AG =/= killing that freighter's possessions True enough. That means there are zero mechanics AGs can you to stand a reasonable chance of affecting gankers with a modicum of consistency. That's why as a last resort they volley the wreck. Also, following your logic, ganking =/= looting a wreck, therefore prior to this change it took: 1+ players to loot vs. 1+ players to volley the wreck however now it takes 1+ players to loot vs. 2+ players to volley the wreck Imbalance. Tell me, how many people did it take to get said loot?
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Posted - 2016.02.12 16:35:57 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Tell me, how many people did it take to get said loot? Aka kill the ship LOL, so the way you are playing this is that if AGs show up and shoot at the gankers but the ship dies anyway, then they volley the loot off the field as a last resort, those are two separate actions, but if gankers gank a ship then one of the gankers ships who wasn't shooting the target goes and loots the loot, that is all part of the same action. That's probably the best example of double standards I've seen in a long while. Either dealing with the loot is part of both playstyles, or neither. Drop the ball son, it's all ogre
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Posted - 2016.02.12 17:04:40 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:I accept your admission of defeat. LOL
prove it
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Posted - 2016.02.12 19:12:14 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Masao Kurata wrote:Of course it's feasible, but even if I wasn't quitting EVE I wouldn't do it myself. Killing carebears is the one true cause in this game. Exactly, and since gankers quite clearly are carebears, you should have no problem becoming an AG. Ed: I love by the way how you're literally going to ragequit because they are adding a bit of EHP to freighters, and you have the nerve to claim that AGs failing is down to effort. (and by "literally" I of course mean "not" since nobody quits EVE, they just threaten to when they have a tantrum).
Let it go
I think you're not talking about the wreck hp buff anymore Lucas Don't make ISD lock this one too
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Posted - 2016.02.12 19:36:06 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Let it go
I think you're not talking about the wreck hp buff anymore Lucas Of course I am, I'm talking about how the wreck HP buff negatively affects a style of play. It's nothing to do with me if gankers want to keep running in slinging insults around, making claims they refuse to prove and derailing the conversation. And once again, you are choosing to be a part of the thread. Stop trying to further derail it just because you don't like it being open. You can't prove the gankers false either You keep sending the ball when you lack an answer
We have stats that you turn away like a true antiganker.
I'm done here, Praise James o7
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Posted - 2016.02.13 22:36:25 -
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[quote=Lucas Kell] just shut up dude, no one cares
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