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Mazare Mircea
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2007.01.30 18:46:00 -
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Ok, I have been thinking about this for the last week, and i got to the part where i need the kind of help and advice some of my friends can't offer. I have some 9.4m SP and i started thinking of finally training for a BS. I already have most of the skills for what was the I-Win button in the last 2-3 years, the Dominix. I have atm Drone int 5, and working on Heavy drone op 5. In about 1 month i will be done with drone skills for some time, and with another week or so of skills i will have Gallente BS 4 which will be enough for me. I already have BC4 so Myrm with Ogre's II is within my grasp.
For the future i have a choice between Raven and Megathron. Megathron has some nice things about it, already Gallente BS 4 by then and instant damage at 150+km looks nice but it is not the way i want to go in EVE. So i have been looking at the Blasterthron and it's tanking efficiency. So far i noticed that the Blasterthron after Rev can't exactly tank and is going even more towards a 1;1 ship. To be more accurate, after Rev a cap injector became a must on many ships which brings the total of the relevant mid slots for armor tankers going solo to 4 - MWD + warp disruptor + webber + cap injector. 2x LAR setup can repp 1600 HP at 11.25s, which means 14X HP/s. Anything that manages to inflict over 150 HP/s on armor can't be tanked by a decently priced blasterthron - and i do mean no faction reppers or 50 mil atm rigs. So 2x LAR is kinda in the past with the extended combat the HP buff brings. 1600mm RT + LAR II is a nice alternative though. Above this i see that a T2 Megathron has a long training period, and i am not that keen on having insta damage at 150+km or alliance warfare.
So I have been looking at the Raven. With some calculations i realized that with 2.5 mil SP in missiles i could have a torp alpha of 4500 raw DPS with a 9s rof - not maxed out skills mind you. Recently i also saw a friend of mine getting wtfpwned by a Cruise Raven with Sensor Dampeners shooting Paradise Fury that were doing at around 550 HP on shield. Obviously the individual had very nice missile skills. This made me realize that there might be more to the raven than the "bah, raven is good at pve and that's that" attitude i saw at others around eve. I also cheched BoB's killboard and i saw both torp ravens and cruise ravens on the recent campaign they are having in the north, which means that there must be something good about this ship if it's used by them - no i don't like they're "omg we're uber, let's troll the forum, bob forum whoring gang attitude" but they are good at what they do.
I realize i can't realisticatlly get the same DPS with a torp or cruise raven that i would get with a blasterthron but quite frankly i would rather train for Raven and then for Eos than to max out everything for the Megathron. But anyway, are there any good pvp setups for the Raven, and what would these be ? I've also considered armor tanking the Raven, but that cuts the already low dps - compared to the blasterthron, to very low levels. Is this compensated by EW in the mid slots ? Particularly Sensor Dampeners.
PS: Pls don't say "look in the ships setups index" because i've looked and i can't find anything usefull in there. -----
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PartyVaN
Minmatar The Hand Trade Alliance ORION FEDERATION
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Posted - 2007.01.30 18:56:00 -
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pvp raven is just what your friend lost to: Torps, RSDs and tackle gear, and a backup armor tank. Your signature is too large. Please see the Forum Rules for the limits - Serathu ([email protected])
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Marcus Alkhaar
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.01.30 19:03:00 -
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the Blasterthron is better than the Raven on many levels.....
the raven got badder DPS, but the tank is about equal
Originally by: darth solo I dont blame XS, tbh if i was in there shoes i wouldnt fight us either, its like bringing a caldari mountain sheep to fight a gallante war wolf(u like how i kept that in character |
Mazare Mircea
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2007.01.30 19:17:00 -
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Raven with T2 Cruise launchers with RSD and 5x Vespa EC-600 is a viable setup ? EC-600 have a good chance at jamming a target with BS sensor strength ? I think an E500 heavy nos also fits.
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