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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
2370
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Posted - 2016.02.07 12:51:37 -
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Mag's wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:made around 20 billion for two deaths Wow, that sucks. My alt has made over 100 billion in highsec and has never died once. So either you're lying, or you're wrong. im from 2003 I probably made trillions in highsec, low, null, WHs since 2003. All safety-free unlike ganking. i was however speaking ofbduring my Is Null More Profitable Than High experiment.
CCP Fozzie GǣWe can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-tonGǪ in null sec anomalies. Gǣ*
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
26860
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Posted - 2016.02.07 12:55:33 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:All safety-free unlike ganking. That's because safeties weren't implemented until a few years ago.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.3 - Vanguard Edition.
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Mag's
Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance
21246
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Posted - 2016.02.07 13:06:36 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Mag's wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:made around 20 billion for two deaths Wow, that sucks. My alt has made over 100 billion in highsec and has never died once. So either you're lying, or you're wrong. im from 2003 I probably made trillions in highsec, low, null, WHs since 2003. All safety-free unlike ganking. i was however speaking ofbduring my Is Null More Profitable Than High experiment. You started 6 months before I did. So please stop with the whole 2003 BS. I don't care about your biased view. The fact of the matter is I made far more doing very little in high sec, whilst you died twice making less in null.
So you're either lying, or you're wrong. Which is it?
Destination SkillQueue:-
It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
14008
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Posted - 2016.02.07 13:19:29 -
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why not both
Better the Devil you know.
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TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
1362
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Posted - 2016.02.07 13:29:15 -
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No, it shouldn't. High security space means only a single thing; CONCORD will whoop the ass of anyone who attacks you. The higher the security status, the faster the response. But it will always be a response, they will never prevent aggression before it happens. The only thing that should be improved is the communication to new players that this is how things work and that high sec is very much not a 100% safe place. The rest is up to you.
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Poddington Bare
Angur Therapy
187
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Posted - 2016.02.07 13:36:52 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:A whole can of varied crazy.
You've cried so hard your eyes are actually bleeding.
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J'Poll
Perkone Caldari State
6287
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Posted - 2016.02.07 13:41:56 -
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
25877
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Posted - 2016.02.07 13:42:47 -
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Why was the OP solo mining in a hulk?
It's a poor choice for solo work, while it may have the highest base yield of the exhumers and barges, the limited, rapidly filled, ore bay and the poor defences indicate that it is intended to be used with fleet support such as an Orca; which provides additional ore storage and if fitted properly can be utilised to increase both the yield and tank of fleet members.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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John E Normus
New Order Logistics CODE.
719
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Posted - 2016.02.07 13:56:56 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Why was the OP solo mining in a hulk?
It's a poor choice for solo work, while it may have the highest base yield of the exhumers and barges, the limited, rapidly filled, ore bay and the poor defences indicate that it is intended to be used with fleet support such as an Orca; which provides additional ore storage and if fitted properly can be utilised to increase both the yield and tank of fleet members.
It has 3 lazor slots and is super cool! You can't math away cool old friend.
Between Ignorance and Wisdom
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Mag's
Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance
21249
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Posted - 2016.02.07 14:06:27 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote: I have a feeling it is, but I'm giving him an out.
Destination SkillQueue:-
It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
3642
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Posted - 2016.02.07 14:16:19 -
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Poasting in a duplicate, redundant thread.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
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Lugh Crow-Slave
1507
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Posted - 2016.02.07 14:20:57 -
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Michel Petit wrote:
Folks mine in Hi-Sec believing it to be safer than low or null. It should be.
This mentality right here is why.
No place in eve should be safe no one in eve should think they are safe
Citadel worm hole tax
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Mistress Odinessa
The Conference Elite CODE.
3
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Posted - 2016.02.07 14:21:29 -
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I sexually identify as a suicide Catalyst, and OP is not wanting me to live my life as I desire. I come to the sandbox here in EVE where I can express myself in my truest form.
Welcome to the Sandbox OP, might I interest you in a mining permit ? Since you apparently didn't have one in high sec and well, suffered the consequences. |
Bella Jennie
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
35
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Posted - 2016.02.07 19:16:50 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:there could be several reasons for it but first a brief history:
When EvE released ganking was controlled but as weapons and ships were upgraded it hecame possible to oneshot the odd ship now and then. CCP was pretty quick to rebuffer or buff to stamp it out.
Nullsec was pretty dangerous and low was very dangerous. highsec was relatively safe in comparison. As Oveur the lead dev at the time stated "hghsec is supposed to be relatively safe".
At some stage CCP and the null sec people began to breach the cardinal rule of not only game development but virtually every competitive based business in the world and began mixing business with pleasure. they began hiring from their own customer base, interacting in game inside corporations and alliances, resulting in highly biased development decisions (which ultimately led to the goons taking over all of EvE, including forums and CSM) and devs dropping game changing items (miner 2 bpo etc)'.
by now the game was incurably corrupted. any reasoning to rebalance it was shouted down on forums or locked by a goon. after a while everyone who cared either left the game, was too intimidated to post on forums or just accepted the status quo.
possible reasons they wont fix it:
1: stacked CSM full of null sec people 2: devs too scared to change it fearing goons might unsub for a month dropping income by 99% 3: game is just too FUBAR now. when you have destroyers and crusiers doing battleship dps and costing almost nothing how do you stop ganking?
Have been going around the Forums and came across the post above... - this is something I have always felt...
That post and reading CCP Falcon's extremist views on gameplay have convinced me to quit...
I'll check back every now and then to see if they fix HISEC the right way..
Have fun..
why should this game belong to the DOUCHEBAGS?
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
26868
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Posted - 2016.02.07 19:19:37 -
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Bella Jennie wrote:Have been going around the Forums and came across the post above... - this is something I have always felt...
That post and reading CCP Falcon's extremist views on gameplay have convinced me to quit...
I'll check back every now and then to see if they fix HISEC the right way..
Have fun.. Your stuff GåÆ my hangar. Stat.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.3 - Vanguard Edition.
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Bella Jennie
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
35
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Posted - 2016.02.07 19:40:34 -
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Tippia wrote:Your stuff GåÆ my hangar. Stat.
nah.. and I got a lotta stuff!
just cancelled all my accounts and it feels so good!
I kind of put it on CCP Falcon's attitude as my reason for quitting:
".. CCP refuses to balance HISEC
CCP clearly favors the gankers & griefers
Screw CCP Falcon and his "dark, gritty and unsafe anywhere" universe.. He should realize he's a developer, NOT a player. .."
and hey, if they fix HISEC, I may come back..
why should this game belong to the DOUCHEBAGS?
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
26873
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Posted - 2016.02.07 19:54:41 -
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Bella Jennie wrote:nah.. and I got a lotta stuff!
just cancelled all my accounts and it feels so good! SoGǪ Your stuff GåÆ my hangar. Stat. I mean, you explicitly said that you're not coming back, so it's not as if you're going to miss it. At least I can put the stuff to good use.
Quote:and hey, if they fix HISEC, I may come back.. Since they have no intention to ever break highsec the way you want, you won't be coming back. Hence why you should hand over your stuff. Your stated reason for quitting is just incoherent nonsense anyway, so it's not like anyone at CCP will see you as anything but a lost cause.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.3 - Vanguard Edition.
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Hal Morsh
Hmmzor. Muffins of Mayhem
499
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Posted - 2016.02.07 19:56:05 -
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Poddington Bare wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:A whole can of varied crazy. You've cried so hard your eyes are actually bleeding.
Don't intice the vampires. They've gotta be hiding somewhere.
Dun'Gal > Hal is simply an imperfect ai, though if drunkeness ever gets programmed into ai's I foresee both a hilarious and tragic end to humanity.
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Mag's
Rabble Inc. Rabble Alliance
21250
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Posted - 2016.02.07 20:03:23 -
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Bellend Jennie wrote:just cancelled all my accounts and it feels so good! You're right about that at least, it does feel good. Thanks.
Destination SkillQueue:-
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Avaelica Kuershin
Paper Cats
234
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Posted - 2016.02.07 20:39:31 -
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Bella Jennie wrote: ".. CCP refuses to balance HISEC
CCP clearly favors the gankers & griefers
Balance begins with the player. You can choose to operate in such a way as to make being ganked uneconomical (and difficult). Or you can autopilot/afk/anti-tank.
I would say that if anything, CCP favours the miners, missioners and haulers of hisec... if they use the tools available. |
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
4662
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Posted - 2016.02.07 20:47:37 -
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Bella Jennie wrote:Tippia wrote:Your stuff GåÆ my hangar. Stat. nah.. and I got a lotta stuff! just cancelled all my accounts and it feels so good! I kind of put it on CCP Falcon's attitude as my reason for quitting: ".. CCP refuses to balance HISEC CCP clearly favors the gankers & griefers Screw CCP Falcon and his "dark, gritty and unsafe anywhere" universe.. He should realize he's a developer, NOT a player. .." and hey, if they fix HISEC, I may come back..
So you found that post by CCP Falcon. I told you so.
And you're right it does feel good you cancelled all your accounts.
Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence
So Local Chat vanished, now what?
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J'Poll
Perkone Caldari State
6290
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Posted - 2016.02.07 21:13:09 -
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Bella Jennie wrote:Tippia wrote:Your stuff GåÆ my hangar. Stat. nah.. and I got a lotta stuff! just cancelled all my accounts and it feels so good! I kind of put it on CCP Falcon's attitude as my reason for quitting: ".. CCP refuses to balance HISEC CCP clearly favors the gankers & griefers Screw CCP Falcon and his "dark, gritty and unsafe anywhere" universe.. He should realize he's a developer, NOT a player. .." and hey, if they fix HISEC, I may come back..
Now, to proof you are leaving...
All your charactes, put them in Doomheim in the next 10 hours.
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J'Poll
Perkone Caldari State
6290
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Posted - 2016.02.07 21:13:57 -
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Tippia wrote:Bella Jennie wrote:nah.. and I got a lotta stuff!
just cancelled all my accounts and it feels so good! SoGǪ Your stuff GåÆ my hangar. Stat. I mean, you explicitly said that you're not coming back, so it's not as if you're going to miss it. At least I can put the stuff to good use. Quote:and hey, if they fix HISEC, I may come back.. Since they have no intention to ever break highsec the way you want, you won't be coming back. Hence why you should hand over your stuff. Your stated reason for quitting is just incoherent nonsense anyway, so it's not like anyone at CCP will see you as anything but a lost cause.
Tippia.
You of all forum posters should know.
ALL stuffz of people rage quitting belong to UaE.
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Help channel: Help chat - Reloaded
Public roams channels: RvB Ganked / Redemption Road / Spectre Fleet / Bombers bar / The Content Club
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
26877
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Posted - 2016.02.07 21:17:34 -
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J'Poll wrote:Tippia.
You of all forum posters should know.
ALL stuffz of people rage quitting belong to UaE. Pff. Greedy <-bleeep->. Leave some for the rest of us. =ƒÿñ
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.3 - Vanguard Edition.
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
44430
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Posted - 2016.02.07 21:38:06 -
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Bella Jennie wrote:just cancelled all my accounts and it feels so good! The game isn't for everyone.
Good that you realised that rather than hanging on like others do, whinging all the time.
Hope you find a different game that suits your view of things.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
14018
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Posted - 2016.02.07 21:38:53 -
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Hal Morsh wrote:Poddington Bare wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:A whole can of varied crazy. You've cried so hard your eyes are actually bleeding. Don't intice the vampires. They've gotta be hiding somewhere.
*whistles inconspicuously*
Better the Devil you know.
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Nitshe Razvedka
State War Academy Caldari State
439
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Posted - 2016.02.08 02:54:08 -
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Pix Severus wrote:Michel Petit wrote:Why does CCP condone and encourage this activity? CCP don't encourage it, in fact they've made several nerfs to it over the years to make it more difficult. You'd think they would encourage it though, seeing as players who are ganked in highsec are more likely to stay subbed to the game. Edit: Just saw your lossmail, ouch! I'm sure you won't make that mistake again.
This stat from Eve 15 is often quoted by window-licker gankers to justifie their base gameplay. Lets break down the statistics: sample drawn from new players killed in first 15 days of game. Hardly the demographic of the majority of people ganked mining in hisec. Nor the demographic of freighter pilots harvested macro style for profit.
If you break down the average gankers KB, they are individuals lacking basic pvp skills. Hoping to maintain their poor self esteem by attacking the most defenceless targets. Like street junkies attacking the elderly. Knowing if they fleeted up in null they would have their buts handed to them.
Eve needs more qualitative and quantitative research of their masses of data. Not throwaway lines to make special needs gankers feel good about their hapless skills.
Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.
Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
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Chopper Rollins
Lantean Empire
1207
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Posted - 2016.02.08 03:05:35 -
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Michel Petit wrote:Outright lawlessness is allowed in low and null sec. Why can't we keep these activities there?
Folks mine in Hi-Sec believing it to be safer than low or null. It should be..
Everywhere is lawless when you're undocked. Hisec has automatic inescapable consequences. Lowsec has automatic consequences that can be avoided or dealt with using tags and understanding gate/station guns. Nullsec has avoidable consequences that require dealing with players, political groups and their influence. But you knew all that, right? You really want hisec to be a place where crowds of people can afk scratch up peanuts and chump change. If so, you are the enemy of space adventure and really do require surprise ammo donations.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
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Chopper Rollins
Lantean Empire
1207
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Posted - 2016.02.08 03:09:50 -
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Nitshe Razvedka wrote:If you break down the average gankers KB, they are individuals lacking basic pvp skills. Hoping to maintain their poor self esteem by attacking the most defenceless targets. Like street junkies attacking the elderly. Knowing if they fleeted up in null they would have their buts handed to them..
Average ganker is actually an alt of someone in a null alliance, i do believe. Hisec freighter and miner destruction is done for profit. The really cruel toxic kiddies you have them confused with don't have long careers in EvE, they stay as long as you whine.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
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Nitshe Razvedka
State War Academy Caldari State
439
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Posted - 2016.02.08 03:14:25 -
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Chopper Rollins wrote:Nitshe Razvedka wrote:If you break down the average gankers KB, they are individuals lacking basic pvp skills. Hoping to maintain their poor self esteem by attacking the most defenceless targets. Like street junkies attacking the elderly. Knowing if they fleeted up in null they would have their buts handed to them.. Average ganker is actually an alt of someone in a null alliance, i do believe. Hisec freighter and miner destruction is done for profit. The really cruel toxic kiddies you have them confused with don't have long careers in EvE, they stay as long as you whine.
I stated facts, you had a special needs whiny cry. Big difference you drop-kick.
Thieving pirates discuss INTEGRITY; Anarchist gankers give us LAWS; and Whoring merc's cry then blow off clients with INSULTS.
Up is down and down is up in the C&P Forum.
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