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Toaster Bagel
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Posted - 2007.01.31 03:08:00 -
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Edited by: Toaster Bagel on 31/01/2007 03:05:25 So here we are, kids.
This is my first EVE video and honestly it's quite lacking in terms of EVE content. I just wanted to see if I could do captures and edits in 720p. Well here's the result.
To try to keep quality up the final video so it's a 256MB 6mbit/s bitrate 720p video. There's some nifty music and game sounds mixed in, and such.
I will do more interesting videos now that I have the entire process a bit hammered out. I will say that the only other High Definition videos from eve that I've seen are from CCP themselves, granted... I don't watch every single video on here. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I chose Windows Media because that's what people are used to on here. The codec does exhibit some interesting artifacts even at such a high bitrate. The odd pixelization of the background or any static images is somewhat disconcerting. I'm still learning about it's nuances and such. Previously, I've always published in MPEG2 since it was going straight to DVD or DIVX-HD anyway.
So, forgive me for the lack of good EVE content and please enjoy the tunes, they rock.
Yes I know it's dorky...
Please right click and save as, it's a 6mbit/s file
Thanks for watching!
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Ather Ialeas
Amarr Karjala Inc. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.01.31 07:41:00 -
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Pixelation even at that bitrate is the result of using MPEG-2 which is not designed for HD resolutions. Use either h.264 (or a variant of it) or some other MPEG-4 Part10 variant for the best quality. --- Mandatory disclaimer: These are my thoughts, not my corps/alliances. ---
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doctorstupid2
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.31 08:15:00 -
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That poor, poor mach
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Toaster Bagel
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Posted - 2007.01.31 12:17:00 -
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I captured into RAW avi, the only time it was ever encoded was into Windows Media. No MPEG in this video. It's a strange colorization artifact of Windows Media. And MPEG2 is used for HD, ever watch digital cable or satelite?
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Janney Jill
Infinitus Odium Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.31 14:58:00 -
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Edited by: Janney Jill on 31/01/2007 14:59:30
sorry for not really contributing with this comment, but dude, that server you uploaded to is SICK !!! am at work atm and got a download rate of over 8000 kb/s. you should mirror some videos for me...
oh and btw: can you please tell me what name of the songs you used ? they are as great as your bandwidth. i spotted the bandname, but not the songname. :P
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Ather Ialeas
Amarr Karjala Inc. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.01.31 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Toaster Bagel I captured into RAW avi, the only time it was ever encoded was into Windows Media. No MPEG in this video. It's a strange colorization artifact of Windows Media. And MPEG2 is used for HD, ever watch digital cable or satelite?
Yes. Crap quality tbh.
There's also an HD version of WMV too, don't use the normal Windows Media. --- Mandatory disclaimer: These are my thoughts, not my corps/alliances. ---
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FireFoxx80
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.01.31 19:37:00 -
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HD makes me moist in my pants.
As people say, WMV.HD or H.264 or DivX HD will all potentially be better on this.
Now... if someone released a HD Eve trailer, with the quality of the Eve Never Fades....
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Toaster Bagel
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Posted - 2007.01.31 20:50:00 -
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Yes, I started with the 720p 5.1 HD profile for Windows Media the stock VBR 2-pass settings were even worse in terms of macroblocking. Turning it to CBR 6mbit didn't affect size all that much and guaranteed, or at least I thought, that it wouldn't block up. See I think you guys are misunderstanding me. I really do know what I'm doing here. I said this was my first EVE video, not my first video ever. :) I'm discussing the colorization caused by the interpretation of 24 bit gradients in the codec. This may be an issue with premiere. Believe me I've done some experimenting with H.264 and for some reason, from Premiere it doesn't want to come out properly encoded. I'm considering exporting to raw avi and using Quicktime Pro to encode to H.264. It's really my favorite codec.
9Mbit profile is used for OTA HDTV, just fyi, in addition to some Blu-Ray titles. Digital Cable and satellite use 3 or 6 mbit profiles that's why they macroblock more than ota. But the OTA is a variable bitrate with priority given to framerate, so it will macro if the signal is lot in order to be able to complete frames and not drop the audio track.
I'd encode in VC-1 but hardly any of you would probably be able to play it. (I have a Vista x64 Machine with the newest Version of Windows Media on it which includes VC-1).
I'll give it ago with a raw export and H.264 video and AAC audio encoding using Quicktime Pro instead of Adobe Media Encoder. If it turns out better, I'll upload that to my server and you guys can quick talkin smack about my encoding abilities. :)
Honestly, I think the color issue is because I was capturing eve in 24 bit color, then encoding in 16 bit color. I'm not sure but that might explain the blocking where detailed gradient information would be lost even at high bitrates. Windows Media might not be complex enough to dither out the detailed color information in the source.
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FireFoxx80
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.02.01 11:55:00 -
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Edited by: FireFoxx80 on 01/02/2007 11:52:11 Just a thought...
Could you pipe it through something like virtual-dub? There is a filter available for that that reduces colour gradients (and macroblocking).
Oh, and try it in H.264, but keep the other version about. I am considering buying an HD video player, but it won't cope with 264.
Edit: Oh and sorry if it sounded like we are all knocking you. We're not. The HD stuff does look really cool, it's just a shame the codecs' cannot keep up.
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