Originally by: Myz Toyou

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I could feel the smack comming strong on this...

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Originally by: Tiuwaz

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for caldari perception weapons that hit up to 100km are short range weapons

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Originally by: DB Preacher

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I already posted the full

and

complete story behind that

incident.

Check for it using

eve-search. The ASCN

drama is gone,

leave it dead and buried.

che

-ers,

dbp

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Originally by: DeckardIRL

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DB in those posts you said then that you couldn't go into detail on certain things then... what the OP was about was that things have changed now and those things you couldn't talk about then could be gone into now... considering CYVOKs rant this morning.

If not my bad.

Deck

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Originally by: Fitz Regal

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Now, now, it is written in the contract that all BoB vassals/friends/allies/pets/lovers/slaves must post 1 thread drawing attention to BoB per group per week, Xelas just wanted to get theirs out of the way early in the week and were a bit stuck for inspiration.

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Originally by: Dark Shikari

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It was pretty simple. ASCN was outmatched and could not engage BoB's forces in open combat in most situations. They also didn't have the numbers of T2 battleships and guts necessary to engage the BoB dread fleets.

So they fell, system by system.

In many ways the war showed the rest of EVE what they need to be able to defend themselves in a modern POS war, by demonstrating what doesn't work.

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Originally by: Dark Shikari

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It was pretty simple. ASCN was outmatched and could not engage BoB's forces in open combat in most situations. They also didn't have the numbers of T2 battleships and guts necessary to engage the BoB dread fleets.

So they fell, system by system.

In many ways the war showed the rest of EVE what they need to be able to defend themselves in a modern POS war, by demonstrating what doesn't work.

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Originally by: jeNK

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Molle already have his testimony month(s) ago.. this is really, really flogging a dead horse now.

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Originally by: Goberth Ludwig

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Originally by: Dark Shikari

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It was pretty simple. ASCN was outmatched and could not engage BoB's forces in open combat in most situations. They also didn't have the numbers of T2 battleships and guts necessary to engage the BoB dread fleets.

So they fell, system by system.

In many ways the war showed the rest of EVE what they need to be able to defend themselves in a modern POS war, by demonstrating what doesn't work.

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And how would you know what really happened Shikari?

- Gob

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Originally by: DeckardIRL

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Now that ASCN is officially no more will SirMolle give his testimony of events. There were alot of accusations and claims and one of the major incidences at the time of the ASCN POS's being offlined allowing BoB into ASCN space.

Getting SirMolles testimony as fully as he can would hopefully put an end to all accusations, be an Eve historical record and of great interest to many people. As much insight to the preparations made also as I think this is something that has not been learned by many many people.

Deck

And then the game moves on.

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Originally by: Svett

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ASCN, like many alliances before it... died due to INTERNAL ISSUES. BoB had nothing at all to do with it.

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Originally by: Svett

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ASCN, like many alliances before it... died due to INTERNAL ISSUES. BoB had nothing at all to do with it.

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Originally by: Laboratus

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Originally by: Svett

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ASCN, like many alliances before it... died due to INTERNAL ISSUES. BoB had nothing at all to do with it.

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Very well said.

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Originally by: Dark Shikari

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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 31/01/2007 14:31:09

Originally by: Goberth Ludwig

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Originally by: Dark Shikari

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It was pretty simple. ASCN was outmatched and could not engage BoB's forces in open combat in most situations. They also didn't have the numbers of T2 battleships and guts necessary to engage the BoB dread fleets.

So they fell, system by system.

In many ways the war showed the rest of EVE what they need to be able to defend themselves in a modern POS war, by demonstrating what doesn't work.

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And how would you know what really happened Shikari?

- Gob

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I don't know much in terms of raw details, but the basic overview was pretty damned obvious.

ASCN did what they could, but they simply didn't have what it took to win. They also didn't have a large group of allies to help them.

It would be different if, say, BoB attacked AAA: IAC, RA, GOON, TCF, and others would probably all join in against them. Band of Brothers is not invincible; they just often seem so because they intelligently pick their targets.

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Originally by: Dark Shikari

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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 31/01/2007 14:31:09

Originally by: Goberth Ludwig

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Originally by: Dark Shikari

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It was pretty simple. ASCN was outmatched and could not engage BoB's forces in open combat in most situations. They also didn't have the numbers of T2 battleships and guts necessary to engage the BoB dread fleets.

So they fell, system by system.

In many ways the war showed the rest of EVE what they need to be able to defend themselves in a modern POS war, by demonstrating what doesn't work.

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And how would you know what really happened Shikari?

- Gob

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I don't know much in terms of raw details, but the basic overview was pretty damned obvious.

ASCN did what they could, but they simply didn't have what it took to win. They also didn't have a large group of allies to help them.

It would be different if, say, BoB attacked AAA: IAC, RA, GOON, TCF, and others would probably all join in against them. Band of Brothers is not invincible; they just often seem so because they intelligently pick their targets.

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Originally by: Svett

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ASCN, like many alliances before it... died due to INTERNAL ISSUES. BoB had nothing at all to do with it.

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