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Memphis Baas
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Posted - 2016.02.09 15:21:27 -
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What's the total extractor volume thus far? Trying to figure out how much $$ CCP got thus far. |
Kalgeroth
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
19
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Posted - 2016.02.09 15:23:03 -
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Currently no live data on extractor volume. But it is HIGH. Thousands being bought and sold each hour. |
Kalgeroth
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
21
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Posted - 2016.02.09 15:37:36 -
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MARKET UPDATE:
6745 Skill Extractors traded through 2597 orders in Jita over last 3.5 hours Average price of 318m ISK
No data yet for Amarr.
Prices of Skill Injectors currently on upward trajectory in Jita - sitting at 680m. Strong price resistance around the 650/660m mark and rising, supported by large buy-orders and bulk purchases. |
Lasisha Mishi
Touch of Death
3
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Posted - 2016.02.09 15:37:46 -
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i should point out that theres a considerable amount of hauling going from various Jita Markets to Amarr Markets where people are buying extractors/injectors low, and selling in the higher priced markets.
so some of these purchases are going back up for sale.
if anyone is up for some suicide ganking, its a potential trade of a 20mill+ stealth bomber for a 300mill extractor (even if game shows extractor's estimated price as 10 isk)
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Princess Honneamise
55
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Posted - 2016.02.09 16:06:22 -
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i just wish to add a side note on 1000 Aurum tokens.
they are crashing from 627 M yesterday to 580 M at the moment .
1000 aur ( 580 M ) = 1 extractor ( 312 M )
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S'Way
1268
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Posted - 2016.02.09 16:24:31 -
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Aptenodytes wrote:Yeah, I know loads of people who want to make a 1 day old carrier alt.
I'm waiting for the first thread in GD from some new player who used injectors on their 1 day old character then welped a carrier (or bigger) ship.....it can't be long now. |
Abda
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2016.02.09 16:37:33 -
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I was in dodixe, and they were going for 780M+ But, of course, not as fast. |
Jack Theisant
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.02.09 16:49:23 -
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...and correct me if I'm wrong, but if one is going to "milk an ALT" (which sounds like a fun way to spend a Saturday night), you can only take them down to 5,500,000 SP, right? Because any lower, and you don't meet the minimum to use an extractor?
Or if you have +5.5 million, you can use as many as you want? Still unclear on that. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3756
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Posted - 2016.02.09 17:08:27 -
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Jack Theisant wrote:...and correct me if I'm wrong, but if one is going to "milk an ALT" (which sounds like a fun way to spend a Saturday night), you can only take them down to 5,500,000 SP, right? Because any lower, and you don't meet the minimum to use an extractor?
Or if you have +5.5 million, you can use as many as you want? Still unclear on that. Somewhere a Dev said you cannot go below 5.5 mil.
And yes, the market will adjust by both skill items prices and PLEX prices changing.
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Berrice Silf
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
65
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Posted - 2016.02.09 17:08:47 -
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Jack Theisant wrote:...and correct me if I'm wrong, but if one is going to "milk an ALT" (which sounds like a fun way to spend a Saturday night), you can only take them down to 5,500,000 SP, right? Because any lower, and you don't meet the minimum to use an extractor?
Or if you have +5.5 million, you can use as many as you want? Still unclear on that.
5.5 mill will allow you to use 1 extractor but with the right setup and skill training on said alt you can relieve it of 500k every 8 days roughly |
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Kalgeroth
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
25
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Posted - 2016.02.09 17:10:40 -
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Jack Theisant wrote:...and correct me if I'm wrong, but if one is going to "milk an ALT" (which sounds like a fun way to spend a Saturday night), you can only take them down to 5,500,000 SP, right? Because any lower, and you don't meet the minimum to use an extractor?
Or if you have +5.5 million, you can use as many as you want? Still unclear on that.
Yes, and this is why we are about to enter a huge Injector price bubble.
People will dump all their unwanted SP in the first few days, then there will be a trickle from those willing to sell SP they earn on existing chars for ~3 months before the additional SP farming alts get over 5.5m SP. In the meantime, prices are likely to go up up up. |
Jack Theisant
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.02.09 17:11:30 -
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Roger that - thanks all. |
N00B-SAIB0T
MK Financial
24
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Posted - 2016.02.09 17:18:10 -
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I appreciate the updates on pricing. If you could continue to update on Extractor pricing throughout the day, that would be great. I need to buy like 67 of them to bring my alt down to 5.5 million and then biomass it. This is going to take some careful timing and observation of their pricing throughout the next few days.
What's the proper name for the Extractor? I can't seem to locate it on EVE-Central. |
Berrice Silf
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
66
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Posted - 2016.02.09 17:21:28 -
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Kalgeroth wrote:Jack Theisant wrote:...and correct me if I'm wrong, but if one is going to "milk an ALT" (which sounds like a fun way to spend a Saturday night), you can only take them down to 5,500,000 SP, right? Because any lower, and you don't meet the minimum to use an extractor?
Or if you have +5.5 million, you can use as many as you want? Still unclear on that. Yes, and this is why we are about to enter a huge Injector price bubble. People will dump all their unwanted SP in the first few days, then there will be a trickle from those willing to sell SP they earn on existing chars for ~3 months before the additional SP farming alts get over 5.5m SP. In the meantime, prices are likely to go up up up.
You will find since the original blog about this people have been firing up their alts / farms and have have over 2 months to prepare for this - Cyber 5 / +5's and find a long ass skill and now they will be purging on a weekly basis. |
Kalgeroth
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
26
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Posted - 2016.02.09 17:22:31 -
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MARKET UPDATE
Jita Injectors: 671m, rising Extractors: 307m, falling
Amarr Injectors: 706m, falling Extractors: 336m, steady |
Kalgeroth
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
26
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Posted - 2016.02.09 17:25:13 -
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Berrice Silf wrote:
You will find since the original blog about this people have been firing up their alts / farms and have have over 2 months to prepare for this - Cyber 5 / +5's and find a long ass skill and now they will be purging on a weekly basis.
Yes indeed, so after the initial rush of supply we're still back to the fact that SP farming alts won't be producing SP they can sell for at least a month and more like three months for most people.
My advice for those who want to buy SP would be to do it NOW while prices are reasonable, or wait three months until the bubble pops.
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Ria Nieyli
40505
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Posted - 2016.02.09 17:40:17 -
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Kalgeroth wrote:Berrice Silf wrote:
You will find since the original blog about this people have been firing up their alts / farms and have have over 2 months to prepare for this - Cyber 5 / +5's and find a long ass skill and now they will be purging on a weekly basis.
Yes indeed, so after the initial rush of supply we're still back to the fact that SP farming alts won't be producing SP they can sell for at least a month and more like three months for most people. My advice for those who want to buy SP would be to do it NOW while prices are reasonable, or wait three months until the bubble pops.
What you're not taking into account is cheap characters on the bazaar that can be stripped of SP. If you're farming SP on an alt, excluding the overhead to get to 5m, the production price of an injector would be 49% of PLEX price. You can certainly go below that by buying up characters from the bazaar. |
Berrice Silf
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
66
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Posted - 2016.02.09 17:44:08 -
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Ria Nieyli wrote:Kalgeroth wrote:Berrice Silf wrote:
You will find since the original blog about this people have been firing up their alts / farms and have have over 2 months to prepare for this - Cyber 5 / +5's and find a long ass skill and now they will be purging on a weekly basis.
Yes indeed, so after the initial rush of supply we're still back to the fact that SP farming alts won't be producing SP they can sell for at least a month and more like three months for most people. My advice for those who want to buy SP would be to do it NOW while prices are reasonable, or wait three months until the bubble pops. What you're not taking into account is cheap characters on the bazaar that can be stripped of SP. If you're farming SP on an alt, excluding the overhead to get to 5m, the production price of an injector would be 49% of PLEX price. You can certainly go below that by buying up characters from the bazaar.
With skill points themselves now have a discerning value and not how the character has been trained, everything will rise and adjust accordingly.
There will be no cheap indie / manu / mining toons theyre just sacks ready to be harvested and farmed on. |
Ria Nieyli
40505
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Posted - 2016.02.09 17:47:27 -
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Berrice Silf wrote:With skill points themselves now have a discerning value and not how the character has been trained, everything will rise and adjust accordingly.
There will be no cheap indie / manu / mining toons theyre just sacks ready to be harvested and farmed on.
Eventually, but it will take some time for the supply of those to get used up by entrepreneurs. |
pajedas
Warlord of Mars
52
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Posted - 2016.02.09 17:52:11 -
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http://eveboard.com/pilot/CapRed wins highest Average SP/Hour with 80,322.65!
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Abda
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2016.02.09 17:57:05 -
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...On how badly you can waste SP? Explosive Shield comp 5? Really? Does he know it only words for passive mods, not invuls? |
Pandora Bokks
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
27
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Posted - 2016.02.09 18:00:11 -
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Kalgeroth wrote:Berrice Silf wrote:
You will find since the original blog about this people have been firing up their alts / farms and have have over 2 months to prepare for this - Cyber 5 / +5's and find a long ass skill and now they will be purging on a weekly basis.
Yes indeed, so after the initial rush of supply we're still back to the fact that SP farming alts won't be producing SP they can sell for at least a month and more like three months for most people. My advice for those who want to buy SP would be to do it NOW while prices are reasonable, or wait three months until the bubble pops.
A farming alt produces 1 injector in 184 hours. The farms are already up and running. Prices are currently 644 mln and moving towards current production cost (623.7 mln ISK). But I guess, you are by far underestimating the amount of available skillpoints. Every charcter offered on Bazaar is a potential SP mine.
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Kalgeroth
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2016.02.09 18:03:32 -
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However you look at it, there is 'instant supply' from unwanted SP earnt over years.
This is the initial supply rush.
SP farms need a little more time to push out SP to the market, as you cannot extract below 5.5m (meaning you need 6m SP to extract 500k).
What does this mean? An initial rush of pent up supply (including from poor characters in the bazaar), and then: a trickle. |
Ria Nieyli
40507
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Posted - 2016.02.09 18:07:25 -
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Kalgeroth wrote:However you look at it, there is 'instant supply' from unwanted SP earnt over years. This is the initial supply rush. SP farms need a little more time to push out SP to the market, as you cannot extract below 5.5m (meaning you need 6m SP to extract 500k). What does this mean? An initial rush of pent up supply (including from poor characters in the bazaar), and then: a trickle.
Same goes for demand too. Demand on patch day is going to be an order of magnitude higher than in the following weeks. |
pajedas
Warlord of Mars
60
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Posted - 2016.02.09 18:10:16 -
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Skill Extractor (Jita) Average so far 313,636,016.84 ISK Skill Injector (Jita) Average so far 670,021,881.51 ISK
Dev Blog: Exploring The Character Bazaar & Skill Trading
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Lfod Shi
Lfod's Ratting and Salvage
299
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Posted - 2016.02.09 18:10:30 -
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Jack Theisant
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.02.09 18:11:43 -
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Just sold an extractor in Essence for 499,000,000. |
Kalgeroth
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2016.02.09 18:14:41 -
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MARKET UPDATE:
Skill Injector prices in Jita in sudden downward trajectory as fresh EU Primetime supply hits the market.
Current price: 618m and falling
Expect this to recover quickly, prices in Amarr still at 680m |
Kalgeroth
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2016.02.09 18:15:59 -
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Ria Nieyli wrote:
Same goes for demand too. Demand on patch day is going to be an order of magnitude higher than in the following weeks.
Demand for shiny new skills will be constant and the desire for new skills is not limited by a fixed variable (SP), but by ISK which players can buy with PLEX or earn more of quickly. |
Ria Nieyli
40507
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Posted - 2016.02.09 18:23:39 -
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There's already a lot of idle ISK ingame, not to mention people dumping plex on the market already. The bulk of injector purchases are going to be frontloaded, then it will slow down to a trickle. Once the novelty wears off, the feeding frenzy will end. |
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