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Miss Negotiatrix
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.02.11 04:39:22 -
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So I plan on training for a freighter soon and I have a question on it
Would I be better off with nomads and say a charon or say a providence and Slave implants?
I know the nomads would make my life easier but I also know the gankers of the world are good at what they do, so would slaves etc allow me to carry a bigger load since I wouldn't be able to be ganked as easily?
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Sheeth Athonille
Rabid Dogz Mining The Bastion
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Posted - 2016.02.11 06:41:37 -
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Do you have an alt to web you into warp? If so then there's no need for nomads at all. If not, then I'd personnally say go with nomads and the fenrir. If you do have a webbing alt, then you don't really need to worry about gankers either, so I'd recommend acendency (sp?) implants. If you plan on afking, then slaves are probably your best bet |
Miss Negotiatrix
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
9
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Posted - 2016.02.11 06:45:42 -
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I wont say ill never afk lol, but if i have a decent load, never....super pricey id have a web alt, but usually id be alone |
Seeker Atreides
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.02.11 23:13:18 -
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Ascendancy set + WS-6XX. |
Mark O'Helm
Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt
124
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Posted - 2016.02.13 03:10:44 -
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A web alt can be killed. Then you are f***ed. That happened to a friend of mine. Also when the jump between gates is short you have to wait for the webber because of the weapon timer. I use nomads, so i can use my webber as a scout too. But i don't go often to jita.
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Mark O'Helm
Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt
124
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Posted - 2016.02.13 03:12:30 -
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Seeker Atreides wrote:Ascendancy set + WS-6XX. Isn't the omega better for the warpspeed then the WS-6XX?
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"Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind."(Zitat von einem, dem es egal ist)
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Andrew Space
Spaceheads
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Posted - 2016.02.15 23:07:44 -
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Ascenda, Nomad, or Snakes is what I tend to use, depending on what/where/when I'm freighting something. |
Anthar Thebess
1463
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Posted - 2016.02.16 11:47:13 -
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Full high grade slaves, and a-typed hards on providence.
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Scotsman Howard
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
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Posted - 2016.02.16 16:17:40 -
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Mark O'Helm wrote:Seeker Atreides wrote:Ascendancy set + WS-6XX. Isn't the omega better for the warpspeed then the WS-6XX?
Yes it is, but the issue is the price. The Omega can cost as much as the rest of the set combined (if not close).
The 6xx implant is much cheaper, and if you put it into EFT, you will find that unless you are using three low slot warp speed modules, the difference in AU/S is not as much as you think.
However, unless you are doing massive warps (not to many in high sec along normal trade routes), the time you would save with the omega over the 6xx is not that great.
Yes you will save time overall, but the price of the Omega makes the 6XX the better choice unless you are a serious hauler who makes thousands of jumps.
Also again though, if you are using a webber, you would find that yes your freighter warps superfast now, but you will still be waiting on gates for your webber to jump through (thus eliminating any time savings you may have had with the 6xx).
Back when I use to have an alt that hauled for Pushx, I calculated (very roughly I might add. It was almost napkin math) that for the "average" trip between Jita and Amarr/Dodixie with a webber, the mid-grade ascendancy set was the best option (still use the 6xx). It was not until you started having routes that took you 20+ jumps from Jita that the time saved would be noticable, but again, at that point, you were still going to be limited by the webbers combat timer. |
Mark O'Helm
Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt
128
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Posted - 2016.02.17 14:50:10 -
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Scotsman Howard wrote: Also again though, if you are using a webber, you would find that yes your freighter warps superfast now, but you will still be waiting on gates for your webber to jump through.
That is why i use mid-grade nomads, EM-705 and 3 inertia stabs II(when it is empty or when i only transport 581000m3) That brings my charon in 16,6 sec in warp. I mostly use the webbster as a scout. And in case of emergency he helps escaping.
"Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen."(Zitat eines Singles)
"Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind."(Zitat von einem, dem es egal ist)
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Scotsman Howard
Lonetrek Blacksoul Federation Northern Army
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Posted - 2016.02.17 14:56:20 -
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Scotsman Howard wrote:
Back when I use to have an alt that hauled for Pushx, I calculated (very roughly I might add. It was almost napkin math) that for the "average" trip between Jita and Amarr/Dodixie with a webber, the mid-grade ascendancy set was the best option (still use the 6xx). It was not until you started having routes that took you 20+ jumps from Jita that the time saved would be noticable, but again, at that point, you were still going to be limited by the webbers combat timer.
I forgot to add though that there is one case where having the high grades is by far the superior option (Omega still optional over the 6xx).
This is an edge case, but we did use it once when we were moving mass amounts of junk to and from null in the South. You simply need two webbers. The webbers are in hyenas (could use minmatar recons if you want as it is easier because of extra web range) with hyperspatial rigs. You then have the webbers leap frog the jumps so that while one is waiting out its combat timer, the other is already in the next system.
If you do this, then a max warp speed freighter really cuts down on the travel time as the thing does not have to wait at all for a webber.
Yes, using two webbers for one freighter is not efficient, but if you are moving more than 1 freighter then the time saved really adds up. Once ran a webber toon for a convoy of 5 freighters from Agil to Jita and it was the fastest I had seen that much cargo get moved.
Very edge case, but if you have freighters going to the same place, it works amazingly well if you communicate enough. |
Mark O'Helm
Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt
128
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Posted - 2016.02.17 16:27:01 -
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Very clever Scotsman. But i do not fly very often more the 5 jumps with my only 1 freighter.
"Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen."(Zitat eines Singles)
"Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind."(Zitat von einem, dem es egal ist)
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