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Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
301
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Posted - 2016.02.11 14:26:51 -
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In the past, I've only really used frigates as a stepping stone to cruisers then battlecruisers and battleships.
Considering it's my only character and I have no intention of having a second character to help out.
So I have 24.4 mill sp.
Most of that is to do with frigates although a lot is used on larger ships.
I identified 128 skills which I consider to be used with frigates or for frigates. Possibly a new frigate class which if there is I hasn't included.
Out of those 128, 35 are at lvl 5, 70 at lvl 4 and 23 at lvl 3 (some of those level 3s are in the skill queue atm, plus 10 are just rigging skills).
So I can only really fit and fly frigates or t1 destroyers.
I can't really think of anything as a frigate pilot that's going to make enough isk to cover the losses especially in hostile regions. As I'm in an NPC corp. I'm obviously considering solo activities at this point.
So any ideas? |
Persephone Alleile
Nocx Initiative
95
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Posted - 2016.02.11 14:35:08 -
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You can make a lot of isk hacking relic sites in a frigate. |
Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
301
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Posted - 2016.02.11 14:41:04 -
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Persephone Alleile wrote:You can make a lot of isk hacking relic sites in a frigate.
Ok thanks, that's something I'll definitely have to look into. |
Paranoid Loyd
8427
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Posted - 2016.02.11 14:42:23 -
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Sit around 250 km cloaked off Jita 4-4, wait for things to explode, warp in, scoop any loot that will fit and dock up.
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Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
301
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Posted - 2016.02.11 14:54:03 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Sit around 250 km cloaked off Jita 4-4, wait for things to explode, warp in, scoop any loot that will fit and dock up.
I guess covert-op is the best for that, so that remains a possibility as I can fly those. |
Paranoid Loyd
8427
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Posted - 2016.02.11 16:29:20 -
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To start off I would just use a cheap frigate, if you get blapped it's no big deal.
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Memphis Baas
1108
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Posted - 2016.02.11 17:10:44 -
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Avvy wrote:I can't really think of anything as a frigate pilot that's going to make enough isk to cover the losses especially in hostile regions. As I'm in an NPC corp. I'm obviously considering solo activities at this point.
Not sure what you're talking about... Mining with a Venture for a couple hours in high sec = enough income to blow up 5-10 frigates.
The trick is not bling'ing a ship that's likely to die a lot.
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
10715
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Posted - 2016.02.11 17:19:35 -
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Avvy wrote: So I have 24.4 mill sp.
But how skilled are you?
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Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
301
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Posted - 2016.02.11 17:53:37 -
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Memphis Baas wrote:Avvy wrote:I can't really think of anything as a frigate pilot that's going to make enough isk to cover the losses especially in hostile regions. As I'm in an NPC corp. I'm obviously considering solo activities at this point.
Not sure what you're talking about... Mining with a Venture for a couple hours in high sec = enough income to blow up 5-10 frigates. The trick is not bling'ing a ship that's likely to die a lot.
Mining? People still do that?
Got no mining skills, other than mining at level 2 which was a skill you have at creation. Nearly all the skills trained are combat focused. The 128 I was talking about are combat focused, I include core skills in that.
Although I did the tutorials I didn't learn the non-combat skill books, so can't even fly a venture as I have no need to. |
Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
301
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Posted - 2016.02.11 17:55:08 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Avvy wrote: So I have 24.4 mill sp.
But how skilled are you?
How skilled are you? |
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
10722
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Posted - 2016.02.11 18:49:34 -
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I think you've missed my point
You're asking about frigates, and then proceed to tell us about your skill point totals, distributions, etc...and I'm basically asking 'How much experience have you had with them'?
:)
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Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
301
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Posted - 2016.02.11 18:51:53 -
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Bumblefck wrote:I think you've missed my point
You're asking about frigates, and then proceed to tell us about your skill point totals, distributions, etc...and I'm basically asking 'How much experience have you had with them'?
:)
No, I'm just used to your style of writing/posting. |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
10722
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Posted - 2016.02.11 18:55:03 -
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OK Mrs Troll, continue to troll away - I'm trying to help answer your question and I get this.
Besides, is this really a new player's question, if you have 24m SP?
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J'Poll
Perkone Caldari State
6297
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Posted - 2016.02.11 18:55:11 -
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As Bumble said, just boasting about your raw SP amounts means jack ****.
Do you know HOW to fly and use your ship (aka player skill) under stress.
By your logic, I can fly a titan on my capital character, as it has all related skills to 4. But in reality, I cant cause I dont know how. I just trained it for the sake of being able to train it and maybe in the fufure I might need them
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Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
301
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Posted - 2016.02.11 19:05:34 -
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J'Poll wrote:As Bumble said, just boasting about your raw SP amounts means jack ****.
Do you know HOW to fly and use your ship (aka player skill) under stress.
By your logic, I can fly a titan on my capital character, as it has all related skills to 4. But in reality, I cant cause I dont know how. I just trained it for the sake of being able to train it and maybe in the fufure I might need them
The skills trained were really just background information. That led up to the question.
Which is can frigate pilots make good isk as I couldn't think of anyway of doing it solo.
I've had two good replies and considering both.
Part of the problem with frigates is hold size, also never heard of a frigate doing level 4 missions.
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SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
1864
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Posted - 2016.02.11 19:11:23 -
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Plenty of ISK to be made in frigates via exploration, burner missions, mining (ore, ice, or gas), potentially PvP if you're good.
Avvy wrote:Mining? People still do that?
Turns out a player run economy without any raw material is kind of a bummer.
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Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
301
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Posted - 2016.02.11 19:26:35 -
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SurrenderMonkey wrote:Plenty of ISK to be made in frigates via exploration, burner missions, mining (ore, ice, or gas), potentially PvP if you're good. Avvy wrote:Mining? People still do that? Turns out a player run economy without any raw material is kind of a bummer.
Mining is no good for me, used to mine gave it up when I was running 3 accounts. Problem was I kept falling asleep, that's actually a true fact. Gave it up around 2009.
But, yeah mining is necessary, just something that doesn't really interest me.
PvP is likely to take time but exploration as well as PvP might work. With PvP only it's likely to just drain the resources. |
Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
165
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Posted - 2016.02.11 19:27:30 -
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Its better to be good at frigates, than bad at battleships.
I have MAX skills (like max EVERYTHING) and I still fly assault frigates all the time. Also, if you are flying fleet, you can do the tackling role in interceptors, a type of frigate. An FC would MUCH rather have a good, highly skilled tackler, than some random low dps battleship in his fleet.
Doing exploration or complexes in a T2 frigate can be very profitable, much more so than using a low-skill cruiser or BS. One advantage of the frigate is that it moves around quickly.
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Memphis Baas
1108
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Posted - 2016.02.11 19:30:40 -
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Also FW. And it doesn't matter what ship you fly; can make billions day-trading or scamming in Jita. Frigate or not.
If you wish to stick to frigates, feel free, nothing wrong with it. I would recommend training an industrial to 4, just so you can carry some loot around and facilitate this "making of money." |
J'Poll
Perkone Caldari State
6298
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Posted - 2016.02.11 19:50:59 -
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Droidster wrote:Its better to be good at frigates, than bad at battleships.
I have MAX skills (like max EVERYTHING) and I still fly assault frigates all the time. Also, if you are flying fleet, you can do the tackling role in interceptors, a type of frigate. An FC would MUCH rather have a good, highly skilled tackler, than some random low dps battleship in his fleet.
Doing exploration or complexes in a T2 frigate can be very profitable, much more so than using a low-skill cruiser or BS. One advantage of the frigate is that it moves around quickly.
Go troll.
I call your BS, as you are not maxed skilled, hell you arent even among the top people.in terms of SP amounts
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J'Poll
Perkone Caldari State
6299
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Posted - 2016.02.11 19:52:47 -
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Avvy wrote:J'Poll wrote:As Bumble said, just boasting about your raw SP amounts means jack ****.
Do you know HOW to fly and use your ship (aka player skill) under stress.
By your logic, I can fly a titan on my capital character, as it has all related skills to 4. But in reality, I cant cause I dont know how. I just trained it for the sake of being able to train it and maybe in the fufure I might need them The skills trained were really just background information. That led up to the question. Which is can frigate pilots make good isk as I couldn't think of anyway of doing it solo. I've had two good replies and considering both. Part of the problem with frigates is hold size, also never heard of a frigate doing level 4 missions.
FW, piracy, exploration, missions.
For T1 dessies, add ganking.
And a frigate can do L4, just not efficiently to be worth it.
I once did some L4s in an AF and managed, but it took 3 times as long compared to a T3C
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Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
301
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Posted - 2016.02.11 19:58:56 -
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Memphis Baas wrote:Also FW. And it doesn't matter what ship you fly; can make billions day-trading or scamming in Jita. Frigate or not.
If you wish to stick to frigates, feel free, nothing wrong with it. I would recommend training an industrial to 4, just so you can carry some loot around and facilitate this "making of money."
Had a trading alt in the past, even carried stuff around in industrials and spent some time running those missions for rep. Even had a freighter.
This time what I'm trying to achieve is just a combat focused character that doesn't rely on alts, or just running missions.
I kind of wish there was a pirate faction in FW. |
Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
301
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Posted - 2016.02.11 20:08:53 -
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Bumblefck wrote:.
Besides, is this really a new player's question, if you have 24m SP?
Even a new player can have more than 24 mill sp these days.
Edit:
The reason it's here is I didn't really consider it a question for GD. |
Nadja Hawk
Out of Pod Exploration
3
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Posted - 2016.02.11 20:09:39 -
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Avvy wrote: I kind of wish there was a pirate faction in FW.
many of us do....
But why do you feel you need to make isk on frigs? It's more fun blowing frigs up! :) |
Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
301
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Posted - 2016.02.11 20:19:56 -
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Nadja Hawk wrote:Avvy wrote: I kind of wish there was a pirate faction in FW.
many of us do.... But why do you feel you need to make isk on frigs? It's more fun blowing frigs up! :)
Well I don't really want to get into a situation where I have to keep throwing cash at the game.
So I would much rather have an in-game income greater than the losses. Although I don't mind subscribing so income doesn't need to be massive as long as the gains out way the losses.
The other reason is my frigate skills are at a good level now, I should be able to fit interceptors, attack frigates, electronic attack ships and covert-ops with the proper equipment. So it's not so much about the levels now, but seeing what I can do with them.
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Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
301
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Posted - 2016.02.11 20:24:12 -
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J'Poll wrote:Avvy wrote:J'Poll wrote:As Bumble said, just boasting about your raw SP amounts means jack ****.
Do you know HOW to fly and use your ship (aka player skill) under stress.
By your logic, I can fly a titan on my capital character, as it has all related skills to 4. But in reality, I cant cause I dont know how. I just trained it for the sake of being able to train it and maybe in the fufure I might need them The skills trained were really just background information. That led up to the question. Which is can frigate pilots make good isk as I couldn't think of anyway of doing it solo. I've had two good replies and considering both. Part of the problem with frigates is hold size, also never heard of a frigate doing level 4 missions. FW, piracy, exploration, missions. For T1 dessies, add ganking. And a frigate can do L4, just not efficiently to be worth it. I once did some L4s in an AF and managed, but it took 3 times as long compared to a T3C
Exploration might be interesting as I haven't done much of that.
Still interested in piracy and have my eye on CURSE but presently still not sure how I'm going to make that work. |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
10728
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Posted - 2016.02.11 20:34:32 -
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Avvy wrote: Still interested in piracy and have my eye on CURSE but presently still not sure how I'm going to make that work.
You get in a frigate (or any other ship you'd like to use, for that matter), and fly out there, and (at it's simplest), either hunt players down with dscan or probes or - in a more new-to-this-kind-of-player way - just hop from belt to belt or hang around a gate and wait for prey. Don't stop to think too long and intellectualise it; just do it, especially with the expectation that the ship you're in is dead before you even set off for your destination.
Just bear that in mind; your ship is just temporarily holding itself together, waiting for the inevitable 'bang'. Once you get past that, it's much easier to think of ships as useful (but expendable) tools, rather than precious progress markers that must be protected at all costs.
Yes, you'll die - a lot, probably (most of us do)...but hopefully, you'll have fun, too.
If you'd like, we can roam together (yes, I sincerely mean that). I'm really not great at PVP, but it's fun and a rush. Let me know if you're interested
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SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
1867
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Posted - 2016.02.11 20:35:42 -
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Avvy wrote:
Well I don't really want to get into a situation where I have to keep throwing cash at the game.
I don't get this.
Unless you really love flying blingy ships, or you die at a phenomenal pace, common T2 fit, T1 ships have an after-insurance replacement cost low enough that you should be able to accidentally earn enough money to keep yourself in ships forever.
It's a bit more if you get into T2 and T3, though still nothing exorbitant.
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Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
301
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Posted - 2016.02.11 20:54:08 -
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SurrenderMonkey wrote:Avvy wrote:
Well I don't really want to get into a situation where I have to keep throwing cash at the game.
I don't get this. Unless you really love flying blingy ships, or you die at a phenomenal pace, common T2 fit, T1 ships have an after-insurance replacement cost low enough that you should be able to accidentally earn enough money to keep yourself in ships forever. It's a bit more if you get into T2 and T3, though still nothing exorbitant.
I was thinking of dying at a phenomenal pace.
I never even thought of insurance, in the times I've been playing over the last 10 years, I think I've only lost 3 ships one of those was a starter ship, another due to lag doing a combat mission in Jita (when there were missions in Jita) and another to being scrambled by a frigate in a mission as there wasn't supposed to be one there, so wasn't expecting it.
In fact lost so few I never even bothered with insurance.
Plus the insurance on a Dramiel isn't worth having. |
Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
301
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Posted - 2016.02.11 21:15:01 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Avvy wrote: Still interested in piracy and have my eye on CURSE but presently still not sure how I'm going to make that work.
You get in a frigate (or any other ship you'd like to use, for that matter), and fly out there, and (at it's simplest), either hunt players down with dscan or probes or - in a more new-to-this-kind-of-player way - just hop from belt to belt or hang around a gate and wait for prey. Don't stop to think too long and intellectualise it; just do it, especially with the expectation that the ship you're in is dead before you even set off for your destination. Just bear that in mind; your ship is just temporarily holding itself together, waiting for the inevitable 'bang'. Once you get past that, it's much easier to think of ships as useful (but expendable) tools, rather than precious progress markers that must be protected at all costs. Yes, you'll die - a lot, probably (most of us do)...but hopefully, you'll have fun, too. If you'd like, we can roam together (yes, I sincerely mean that). I'm really not great at PVP, but it's fun and a rush. Let me know if you're interested
I've been through low sec before, so I kind of know at least what that used to be like. Although I have been in null, never really saw action there, must have been a quite time. So I do wonder about bubbles as I've not had to deal with them.
But I have 4 JCs so I could get to CURSE and being an NPC region I'll be able to dock. Problem I see is that they will effectively be all hostile at least to start with, so don't see a way of making a profit only a loss. Although if they have a medical facility I could place a JC there and jump back to high-sec when needed.
As for over thinking, yes I can do that sometimes. |
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SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
1869
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Posted - 2016.02.11 21:18:56 -
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Avvy wrote: Plus the insurance on a Dramiel isn't worth having.
Don't fly expensive ships until you're not bad at the game anymore?
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Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
714
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Posted - 2016.02.11 21:23:14 -
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Avvy wrote:
In fact lost so few I never even bothered with insurance.
Plus the insurance on a Dramiel isn't worth having.
You always get more out of insurance that you put in, so at its core, insurance is ALWAYS worth it if you know you're about to get blown up.
To add some other things. Relic and Data sites were mentioned, but lower tier combat sites are definitely doable in frigates too.
Also, if most of your skills are for frigates, then you're also mostly skilled up for destroyer. Destroyers, especially t3 can do harder combat sites than frigates can, and are good at pvp too.
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1897
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Posted - 2016.02.11 21:42:22 -
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Well one of my mission alts makes hundreds of million an hour in a frigate.
Basically I never play the alt much anymore, so he sits in a Garmur and I log him in for about 30 seconds several times a day from work and keep declining level IVs till I get a team burner.
SO all he does is run team burners which at current SOE Probe Launcher prices gets him 30 to 40 mill ISK for 10 minutes max (usually much less but sometime you have to travel) killing each burner. |
Cara Forelli
Meticulously Indifferent
1547
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Posted - 2016.02.11 22:05:47 -
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I hear playing the game helps
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Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
301
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Posted - 2016.02.11 22:32:35 -
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Iria Ahrens wrote:Avvy wrote:
In fact lost so few I never even bothered with insurance.
Plus the insurance on a Dramiel isn't worth having.
You always get more out of insurance that you put in, so at its core, insurance is ALWAYS worth it if you know you're about to get blown up. To add some other things. Relic and Data sites were mentioned, but lower tier combat sites are definitely doable in frigates too. Also, if most of your skills are for frigates, then you're also mostly skilled up for destroyer. Destroyers, especially t3 can do harder combat sites than frigates can, and are good at pvp too.
Yeah, got all 4 races level 5 destroyer skills in the queue atm, as it is a natural progression from frigates.
Funny enough I can train a lot of the T2 cruiser books, although no point as I wouldn't be able to fit them properly yet, or fly them.
Maybe a T3 destroyer is a future possibility. But obviously I'll stay with frigates for awhile.
As for insurance as long as it's not pirate faction ships, it sounds like it will be worth looking at. |
Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
301
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Posted - 2016.02.11 22:33:44 -
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Cara Forelli wrote:I hear playing the game helps
Well I've played the game many times, got 9 accounts although 8 are now dead. |
Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
301
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Posted - 2016.02.11 23:16:49 -
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Well thanks for the replies, given me a few things to think about.
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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1150
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Posted - 2016.02.12 00:48:17 -
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This poster has made several posts in the past that I consider to be troll like. I am assuming this is likely a troll post as well but I'll bite on the troll bait.
Avvy wrote: I identified 128 skills which I consider to be used with frigates or for frigates....... So I can only really fit and fly frigates or t1 destroyers.
Of all the skills in this game there are only 4 racial frigate skills. If you want to add in the T2 versions of those then that is 6 more skills. We have really only 3 small weapons system skills that are specific to small ships, those are the 3 small turret skills. Again if you want to add in the T2 versions that is 6 more. So that is 19 skills that can only be used with small ships.
The other 109 skills are not specific to small ships and will be just as useful when flying medium, large and capital sized ships. If you have 24.4 Million skill points I would say that, even if you had no large ship skills currently, you could probably fly any battleship in game fairly decently in a week maybe less if you wanted. It would probably only have the weapons that were not T2.
So your argument about only being able to fly frigates seems silly to me.
Avvy wrote: I can't really think of anything as a frigate pilot that's going to make enough isk to cover the losses especially in hostile regions. As I'm in an NPC corp. I'm obviously considering solo activities at this point.
So any ideas?
This is an MMO. It is an MMO who's stated focus is group PvP. You are supposed to make friends in MMOs and do things with or against other people. If you do not want to interact with other players may I suggest some of the many single player games available.
If you are having trouble making decent isk solo I'm sure the devs are very happy to hear that as they have said repeatedly that they wish to encourage group efforts over solo and make fleet actions more profitable than solo whenever possible.
I'm sure that there are a million ways to make isk in a frigate but one thing that jumps to the front of my mind is FW. I've seen plenty of videos from people showing how to make good isk solo in FW. However I will suggest that it is probably much more fun to do it with friends. Oh and by the way I'm pretty sure that you can join an NPC FW corp so your dreams of being a solo NPC corp pilot in a frigate might come true yet.
If you want to troll in the future may I suggest you pick something that we can't poke enough holes in to make it look like swiss cheese. |
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1150
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Posted - 2016.02.12 00:57:05 -
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So you post this:
Avvy wrote: I can't really think of anything as a frigate pilot that's going to make enough isk to cover the losses especially in hostile regions.
Then you post this:
Avvy wrote: I never even thought of insurance, in the times I've been playing over the last 10 years, I think I've only lost 3 ships one of those was a starter ship,
3 Ships in 10 years and one was a starter? I think I know a way that you can cover your losses in a frigate. Well it's pretty much anything that you do in a frigate will cover 2 frigates and a starter ship over a 10 year period.
If you are going to be a troll at least be a decent one.
Oh and BTW if you have only lost 2 ships that you've had to pay for in the past 10 years I don't think that you can even claim to have played this game. |
Cara Forelli
Meticulously Indifferent
1548
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Posted - 2016.02.12 01:02:33 -
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ergherhdfgh wrote:This poster has made several posts in the past that I consider to be troll like. I am assuming this is likely a troll post as well but I'll bite on the troll bait. Considering he just injected ~12m skillpoints (costing ~15.5 bil!) and is now whining about the cost of flying t1 frigs....yeah.
Not to mention his history of posting awful/discouraging advice to other new players without bothering actually to play the game before forming half-baked opinions and running his mouth.
If I'm not being clear: OP, I do not like you. You won't ever get help from me here (or, I imagine, most of the NCQA crew). We do not appreciate trolling in this forum.
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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1150
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Posted - 2016.02.12 01:13:42 -
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Cara Forelli wrote:ergherhdfgh wrote:This poster has made several posts in the past that I consider to be troll like. I am assuming this is likely a troll post as well but I'll bite on the troll bait. Considering he just injected ~9m skillpoints (costing ~11.5 bil!) and is now whining about the cost of flying t1 frigs....yeah. Not to mention his history of posting awful/discouraging advice to other new players without bothering actually to play the game before forming half-baked opinions and running his mouth. If I'm not being clear: OP, I do not like you. You won't ever get help from me here (or, I imagine, most of the NCQA crew). We do not appreciate trolling in this forum. Thank you so much for this post Cara. It is honest and heartfelt. You just said what I felt but could not find the words for. And you did so in a simple and concise manner. I could not come up with anything near as good in 2 text walls. |
Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
301
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Posted - 2016.02.12 01:50:51 -
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Cara Forelli wrote:ergherhdfgh wrote:This poster has made several posts in the past that I consider to be troll like. I am assuming this is likely a troll post as well but I'll bite on the troll bait. Considering he just injected ~9m skillpoints (costing ~11.5 bil!) and is now whining about the cost of flying t1 frigs....yeah. Not to mention his history of posting awful/discouraging advice to other new players without bothering to actually play the game before forming half-baked opinions and running his mouth. If I'm not being clear: OP, I do not like you. You won't ever get help from me here (or, I imagine, most of the NCQA crew). We do not appreciate trolling in this forum.
I wasn't whining, I was simply asking for ways for a solo combat frigate pilot to make isk.
So that your earnings are higher than your potential losses.
But of course you like to troll my posts, so you just go ahead as you will anyway. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.02.12 02:55:22 -
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The answer is burners. |
Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.02.12 03:02:39 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:The answer is burners.
Ok thanks, a few times those have been mentioned now, so I will have to look at those. |
Thorian Baalnorn
Bad Influence ChaosTheory.
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Posted - 2016.02.12 13:39:59 -
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If you have been playing this game since 2009 or whatever, you should know most of the ways to make isk right now. The best way to make isk using an actual frigate is to scan and hack sites, or you can simply do in station trading/scamming/ etc.
Regardless to make "good" money flying only frigates, you are going to need to train non combat skills or work really hard. It sounds to me that you are trying to turn eve into your own version Rube Goldberg machine. IE: Taking something simple like making isk in Eve and turning it into something far more complicated and involved than it needs to be.
Shooting Structures = PVP Mining
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Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.02.12 16:24:37 -
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Thorian Baalnorn wrote:If you have been playing this game since 2009 or whatever, you should know most of the ways to make isk right now. The best way to make isk using an actual frigate is to scan and hack sites, or you can simply do in station trading/scamming/ etc.
Regardless to make "good" money flying only frigates, you are going to need to train non combat skills or work really hard. It sounds to me that you are trying to turn eve into your own version Rube Goldberg machine. IE: Taking something simple like making isk in Eve and turning it into something far more complicated and involved than it needs to be.
Played since around 2005/2006 but not continuously, been around for a lot of game changes but not all.
Plus never really did much with frigates and prefer to keep this character pure combat orientated.
Done a lot of non-combat activities already in the past as well as combat ones. So the point was to stick with combat, plus being combat only means there are less skills to train.
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J'Poll
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.02.12 20:13:02 -
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ergherhdfgh wrote:Cara Forelli wrote:ergherhdfgh wrote:This poster has made several posts in the past that I consider to be troll like. I am assuming this is likely a troll post as well but I'll bite on the troll bait. Considering he just injected ~9m skillpoints (costing ~11.5 bil!) and is now whining about the cost of flying t1 frigs....yeah. Not to mention his history of posting awful/discouraging advice to other new players without bothering actually to play the game before forming half-baked opinions and running his mouth. If I'm not being clear: OP, I do not like you. You won't ever get help from me here (or, I imagine, most of the NCQA crew). We do not appreciate trolling in this forum. Thank you so much for this post Cara. It is honest and heartfelt. You just said what I felt but could not find the words for. And you did so in a simple and concise manner. I could not come up with anything near as good in 2 text walls.
Thanks Cara, +1.
I couldnt have said it better.
Hell, I guess I was going to **** off all of ISD if I voiced my true opinion on this person.
Let's just say; Think of the worst possible word you can imagine about a person, and multiply it by 10. And even then you dont come near my opinion.
For the sake of all that is holy about NCQA, could CCP / ISD please give a kind suggestion to the OP on how to post, if possible in the form of a banhammer or so?
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Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.02.12 20:18:13 -
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J'Poll wrote:
[ Hell, I guess I was going to **** off all of ISD if I voiced my true opinion on this person.
Let's just say; Think of the worst possible word you can imagine about a person, and multiply it by 10. And even then you dont come near my opinion.
And that's why you guys troll my threads, not that I make many.
You're not even trying to be constructive you're just having a go.
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