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Officer Pressly
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.02.11 15:22:10 -
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Just a heads up to everyone that missed this. If you have reverted to the old camera (like me). CCP have stated that they will remove the option and only have you fly with the new camera.
Quote from dev blog:
Quote:Since changes to fundamental parts of core gameplay systems can be delicate, weGÇÖve decided to keep the option of reverting to the old camera for about 1 month as of now.
I personally have serious issues with part of my everyday gameplay beeing just deleted from the game. |
Valthax Kelkore
Damen LLC
15
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Posted - 2016.02.11 16:41:04 -
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It's the Incarna bs all over again.
They have the option to go back to the now "legacy" map and "legacy" scanning techniques, I'm baffled as to why they cannot/will not do the same for this new awful camera. |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
10715
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Posted - 2016.02.11 16:48:28 -
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With the new camera angles and settings, I get what I assume is pretty bad motion sickness - I really hope that they don't remove the old camera settings permanently. :(
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Daemun Khanid
Apollo Defence Industries
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Posted - 2016.02.11 16:50:21 -
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Its become quote obvious I think. Included with the new camera are changes to the tracking camera that effect gameplay and make it easier for lp farmers and miners to escape. The addition of extra key presses to track objects on overview and taking away the ability of tracking camera to watch the direction a ship is traveling when it enters warp. I havent logged in today but supposedly they have partially restored tracking ships as they enter warp but only if you are on grid with them and tracking them before they begin the process. Which essentially means any ship sitting and spamming dscan will still be untrackable and uncatchable.
Carebears and farmers everywhere should be celebrating. Its apparent that CCP have decided to put all their efforts into making their lives easier. It seems eve is well on its way to becoming nothing but a gold farm. I fully expect input broadcasting to be unbanned any day now.
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Tamazaki
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.02.11 16:51:21 -
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Bumblefck wrote:With the new camera angles and settings, I get what I assume is pretty bad motion sickness - I really hope that they don't remove the old camera settings permanently. :(
Me too. |
Officer Pressly
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.02.11 17:06:50 -
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Bumblefck wrote:With the new camera angles and settings, I get what I assume is pretty bad motion sickness - I really hope that they don't remove the old camera settings permanently. :(
They have said they will remove the camera within 9'th of mars! |
Grauth Thorner
Vicious Trading Company
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Posted - 2016.02.11 17:56:40 -
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Tamazaki wrote:Bumblefck wrote:With the new camera angles and settings, I get what I assume is pretty bad motion sickness - I really hope that they don't remove the old camera settings permanently. :( Me too. That makes three of us.
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TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.02.11 18:08:56 -
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Good, the new camera is superior in literally every way. If you're still using the old camera after seeing what the new one can do you have serious issues.
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Iain Cariaba
2623
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Posted - 2016.02.11 18:12:24 -
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Grauth Thorner wrote:Tamazaki wrote:Bumblefck wrote:With the new camera angles and settings, I get what I assume is pretty bad motion sickness - I really hope that they don't remove the old camera settings permanently. :( Me too. That makes three of us. Make that four.
Honestly, if they take the old cameras away I'll be forced to stop playing. I've adapted to the new neocom, overview icons, colors, map, and all the other crap, but I can't adjust to the nausea the new camera gives me. This is the same thing that keeps me from playing first person shooters.
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Daemun Khanid
Apollo Defence Industries
345
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Posted - 2016.02.11 18:12:50 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:Good, the new camera is superior in literally every way. If you're still using the old camera after seeing what the new one can do you have serious issues.
Lol, this is a joke right? You mean seen the new camera and what it "can't" do. Like a functioning tracking camera. Drifting all over the place, inducing nausea and being harder to control and manipulate in general do not count as things it "can do."
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2016.02.11 18:15:13 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:Good, the new camera is superior in literally every way. GǪapart from the missing features, the lack of control, the lack of precision, the lack of sensible shortcuts, and the nonsensical focus on stuff that isn't your ship.
None of the new cameras serve any useful purpose (the tactical camera would, except that the mechanics it is meant to support aren't in the game yet).
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Pix Severus
Empty You
2948
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Posted - 2016.02.11 18:30:35 -
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Bumblefck wrote:With the new camera angles and settings, I get what I assume is pretty bad motion sickness - I really hope that they don't remove the old camera settings permanently. :(
Same, and I'm fairly certain it's due to the reduced FOV.
If anyone knows if it's possible to increase the FOV on the new camera, please let me know.
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
10717
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Posted - 2016.02.11 18:33:18 -
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Pix Severus wrote:Bumblefck wrote:With the new camera angles and settings, I get what I assume is pretty bad motion sickness - I really hope that they don't remove the old camera settings permanently. :( Same, and I'm fairly certain it's due to the reduced FOV. If anyone knows if it's possible to increase the FOV on the new camera, please let me know.
Have you tried unchecking all of the camera options? I find that more or less (but emphasis on 'less', really) that brings things back to normal.
CCP - acknowledge the problems this 'upgrade' causes, please!
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Imalia Bloodlines
Imalia Bloodlines Warfare and Trading Corporation
5
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Posted - 2016.02.11 18:36:30 -
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WTF I cant play with new camera...dont do this, you already ruined your game no need to bury it |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
10720
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Posted - 2016.02.11 18:39:20 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:Good, the new camera is superior in literally every way. If you're still using the old camera after seeing what the new one can do you have serious issues.
Yes, absolutely, we should just peg our extreme physical discomfort caused by this to our stupidity
GTFO
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Pix Severus
Empty You
2949
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Posted - 2016.02.11 18:39:51 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Pix Severus wrote:Bumblefck wrote:With the new camera angles and settings, I get what I assume is pretty bad motion sickness - I really hope that they don't remove the old camera settings permanently. :( Same, and I'm fairly certain it's due to the reduced FOV. If anyone knows if it's possible to increase the FOV on the new camera, please let me know. Have you tried unchecking all of the camera options? I find that more or less (but emphasis on 'less', really) that brings things back to normal. CCP - acknowledge the problems this 'upgrade' causes, please!
Thanks, turning off "dynamic field of view" helped, but I still get this nauseating, almost claustrophobic feeling with the new camera on, it's hard to explain.
I really feel like CCP are just reinventing the wheel here, why can't they just leave the old camera as an option?
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
10720
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Posted - 2016.02.11 18:42:09 -
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Well, it's CCP innit :(
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Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1062
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Posted - 2016.02.11 18:53:01 -
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o man the QQ here love it. You can not stop changes people deal with it or quit. Making QQ post in GN is standard those days but come on. Stop doing it. If you get motion sickness buy a smaller screen or stop playing spinning ship in station. |
Persephone Alleile
Nocx Initiative
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Posted - 2016.02.11 18:53:11 -
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The new camera looks nice and all but I'm really not liking the lack of center tracking camera. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2016.02.11 18:58:09 -
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Johan Civire wrote:o man the QQ here love it. You can not stop changes people deal with it or quit. Making QQ post in GN is standard those days but come on. Stop doing it. If you get motion sickness buy a smaller screen or stop playing spinning ship in station. Too bad that neither of those GÇ£solutionsGÇ¥ actually address (or have anything to do with) the issue at hand.
But you're right GÇö QQ:ing in GD makes no difference and there's a thread for feedback that's filled with complaints and CCP slooooooooooowly grasping tiny details that aren'y working with their GÇ£awesomeGÇ¥ idea.
Then again, this is not a QQ thread but rather a warning that a core feature of the game will be removed in a month, as mentioned in passing in a dev blog.
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
10726
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Posted - 2016.02.11 18:59:36 -
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Johan Civire wrote: If you get motion sickness buy a smaller screen or stop playing spinning ship in station.
Yes, if there's a problem caused by the game, let's not talk about it.
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SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
1864
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Posted - 2016.02.11 19:00:42 -
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They really do seem to have a hard-on for form-over-function UI changes, lately.
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Vic Jefferson
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
880
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Posted - 2016.02.11 19:02:35 -
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Please do not do this.
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
10726
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Posted - 2016.02.11 19:02:47 -
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I think they've been overheating the Overly Aesthetic Module too much of late, too
:,(
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Officer Pressly
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.02.11 19:20:49 -
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Just consider this, alot of players didnt read the dev blog, they just turned the new camera off. Guess they will be in for a suprise when it suddenly as of 9'th of mars doesnt exist anymore lol.. |
Ibutho Inkosi
Irubo Kovu
112
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Posted - 2016.02.11 19:24:20 -
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Daemun Khanid wrote:Its become quote obvious I think. Included with the new camera are changes to the tracking camera that effect gameplay and make it easier for lp farmers and miners to escape. The addition of extra key presses to track objects on overview and taking away the ability of tracking camera to watch the direction a ship is traveling when it enters warp. I havent logged in today but supposedly they have partially restored tracking ships as they enter warp but only if you are on grid with them and tracking them before they begin the process. Which essentially means any ship sitting and spamming dscan will still be untrackable and uncatchable. So long as the old camera is available they cant save the bears so it therefore must be removed.
Carebears and farmers everywhere should be celebrating. Its apparent that CCP have decided to put all their efforts into making their lives easier. It seems eve is well on its way to becoming nothing but a gold farm. I fully expect input broadcasting to be unbanned any day now.
EDIT: Apparently the fact that you can't track ships that have already initiated the warp process is unintended so I retract. :) Now if they will just get rid of all the camera inertia and give us back toggled camera tracking instead of requiring constant shortcut use things will start to look up. ROFL that's a lot of trouble to go to just to gank a "carebear". I'm glad you're enjoying the game to it's depth.
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Daemun Khanid
Apollo Defence Industries
349
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Posted - 2016.02.11 19:40:05 -
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Ibutho Inkosi wrote:Daemun Khanid wrote:Its become quote obvious I think. Included with the new camera are changes to the tracking camera that effect gameplay and make it easier for lp farmers and miners to escape. The addition of extra key presses to track objects on overview and taking away the ability of tracking camera to watch the direction a ship is traveling when it enters warp. I havent logged in today but supposedly they have partially restored tracking ships as they enter warp but only if you are on grid with them and tracking them before they begin the process. Which essentially means any ship sitting and spamming dscan will still be untrackable and uncatchable. So long as the old camera is available they cant save the bears so it therefore must be removed.
Carebears and farmers everywhere should be celebrating. Its apparent that CCP have decided to put all their efforts into making their lives easier. It seems eve is well on its way to becoming nothing but a gold farm. I fully expect input broadcasting to be unbanned any day now.
EDIT: Apparently the fact that you can't track ships that have already initiated the warp process is unintended so I retract. :) Now if they will just get rid of all the camera inertia and give us back toggled camera tracking instead of requiring constant shortcut use things will start to look up. ROFL that's a lot of trouble to go to just to gank a "carebear". I'm glad you're enjoying the game to it's depth.
Using the tracking camera to locate targets with dscan and then the watch them as the warp away so you can see where they are going? If that seems extravagant to you then you must be pretty bored sitting in station all day. It's pretty standard practice so your comment really just serves to make you look clueless. And it's not just about ganking carebear miners, it's about ALL pvp combat whether it's null sec, low sec or FW.
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Celise Katelo
State War Academy Caldari State
181
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Posted - 2016.02.11 20:18:17 -
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I did wonder why nothing happen when i was pressing "C" ...
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
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Posted - 2016.02.11 21:21:50 -
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Pix Severus wrote:Bumblefck wrote:Pix Severus wrote:Bumblefck wrote:With the new camera angles and settings, I get what I assume is pretty bad motion sickness - I really hope that they don't remove the old camera settings permanently. :( Same, and I'm fairly certain it's due to the reduced FOV. If anyone knows if it's possible to increase the FOV on the new camera, please let me know. Have you tried unchecking all of the camera options? I find that more or less (but emphasis on 'less', really) that brings things back to normal. CCP - acknowledge the problems this 'upgrade' causes, please! Thanks, turning off "dynamic field of view" helped, but I still get this nauseating, almost claustrophobic feeling with the new camera on, it's hard to explain. I really feel like CCP are just reinventing the wheel here, why can't they just leave the old camera as an option?
They can't because the code is very old. So they had to write a new camera code, and instead of making a clone of the camera everybody knows and uses, they just had to leave their little footprint and make a completely new camera that works like sh*t and makes people motion sick.
Then, instead of agreeing that nobody asked them that camera so better just clone the old one, they beg our feedback so we point at them what the **** is wrong with THEIR camera, and with any luck they may find a partial solution to the issues while grumbling at how delicate are some stomachs among the playerbase and the general inability of customers to understand the Psssshhhh.
What they will not do, under no circunstance, is to clone the old camera with new code, and of course the old code will be gone no matter the what with the new camera.
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Shiloh Templeton
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.02.11 21:25:10 -
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motion sickness: In case CCP doesn't address this for you -- Try drinking some ginger ale, or taking a ginger capsule.
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