Why Delete post instead of moving them?

They still won't be able to.

It makes sense because it keeps ships in line

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freighters and jump freighters should have 99% powergrid / cpu requirements reduction
hull resistances would be [ penalized to 30% for tech1 32% meta4 34% tech2 36% faction 38% deadspace and 45 for officer
freighter could have full damage control bonus of 60% hull resistances only for elite damage control and the top officer damage control

Could it have something to do with making sure faction-quality items can't be easily monopolized by a single PC entity controling a NPC area of availability?

It's to allow different factions LP stores to have value, rather than forcing people to grind a particular faction rep for a faction DC.
Obviously not all factions get every single module, but a range of factions per module spreads things out.

Except the part where they now get 1/3 of one for free. And again, they're getting a buff designed the counter the nerfing of a module they could not equip in the first place. Again, I cite my hictor example. Why should ships that can't use hictor bubbles benefit from a bubble nerf?

In line, with what? A freighter does not compete with any ship except other freighters in terms of carrying capacity. HP becomes a factor only when attacked. If the freighter is a wartarget or in lower sec areas, the issue is moot anyway. He's gonna buy the farm. But the already enormous HP wall freighters have getting upped even more only serves to hinder suicide ganking in highsec.

Freighter health is being buffed by a rather significant margin. If we're going to be honest about this, and you said yourself things need to be kept in line, are we going to get a gutting of Concord response times to compensate? Because things are no longer in line. The attacking ships are already paper thin and do not benefit from extra hull HP. So what are you going to give them to get everything back in line?

I think this nerf/rebuff thing is overly complicated for it's own sake. We could have just had a nerf to DCU's, and left it at that.

But they aren't getting the benefit of the module for free, they are getting a benefit of ships in the game being balanced, the same as every other ship. If they were excluded, they would be the only ship class not to receive a natural boost to EHP, and they would be vastly behind ships who could equip a DC but were better without them. Even ganking ships will benefit as they will be able to retain their full DPS but take more damage before getting wiped out.

Hictors are different because you're talking about an extremely speciialised ship class, not a module that is used on nearly every ship in the game, but I would expect CCP to consider in the event of that change the effects on other ships and if other ships should be buffed too - as they have in this case.

Quoting a very old post from when the DCU got implemented, the original dev (i don't remember who) said they wanted the DCU to be an active module with a "long cycle" and very little cap requirement to avoid to encourage AFK play styles and actually reward the player from being there, turning it on every jump / undock, compared to the player autopiloting afk.

Its already been shown that the chances of being ganked in a freighter or jump freighter stands at less than 0.1% out of over 2 million jumps.

You keep repeating that. It has not been shown. You don't even have access to the data required to potentially show it. Red Frog Freight statistics do not become representative for all of New Eden simply by you repeating them over and over again.

You keep repeating that. It has not been shown. You don't even have access to the data required to potentially show it. Red Frog Freight statistics do not become representative for all of New Eden simply by you repeating them over and over again.

Feel free to show me another data set gathered over a year and that covers over 2 million gate jumps.

Feel free to show me another data set gathered over a year and that covers over 2 million gate jumps.

Obviously CCP has the data, and have seen this as a problem. Which is why they are attempting to balance things. Any limited data collection you have done is not the complete data set.

I don't have to. Since RFF can only provide data for their own freighter movements, which are by their very nature only a subset of all freighter movements in New Eden, *you* need to prove that the data is a meaningful representation. Since you would need to access the full data available -- which I somehow doubt CCP has allowed you to do -- to offer proof, you're in a bit of a pickle.

Feel free to show me another data set gathered over a year and that covers over 2 million gate jumps.

There is zero evidence any change is needed to freighter EHP.

You keep repeating that. It has not been shown. You don't even have access to the data required to potentially show it. Red Frog Freight statistics do not become representative for all of New Eden simply by you repeating them over and over again.

So if you want to work out roughly how many jumps in highsec each year total for haulers there might be, then calculate a sample size, at max it will be around 20,000 jumps needed for a high level of confidence. 2.8 million as a sample size is exceedingly good.

I don't have to. Since RFF can only provide data for their own freighter movements, which are by their very nature only a subset of all freighter movements in New Eden, *you* need to prove that the data is a meaningful representation. Since you would need to access the full data available -- which I somehow doubt CCP has allowed you to do -- to offer proof, you're in a bit of a pickle.

Which limit the size/value of the cargo dramatically, and therefore significantly skew the sample.

So if you want to work out roughly how many jumps in highsec each year total for haulers there might be, then calculate a sample size, at max it will be around 20,000 jumps needed for a high level of confidence. 2.8 million as a sample size is exceedingly good.

So if you want to work out roughly how many jumps in highsec each year total for haulers there might be, then calculate a sample size, at max it will be around 20,000 jumps needed for a high level of confidence. 2.8 million as a sample size is exceedingly good.

If it were a random sample size it might be.
However in this case we have a sample which is already biased by Red frogs contract rules. Which limit the size/value of the cargo dramatically, and therefore significantly skew the sample.

And even with this limitation which 'makes them safe' they still suffer a 0.1% gank rate, which quite frankly when talking haulers is huge. Haulers can do hundreds of jumps a day, which means that gank rate means a red frog hauler can expect to lose a freighter once a fortnight. And that isn't 'one freighter across all of red frog a fortnight'. That is a freighter per pilot.