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Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2016.02.16 15:34:08 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Please explain how this negatively impacts you, Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:... Though beyond personal vanity i dont see any actual arguments against it. .... "Know thy enemy gone" More tantrum kiddies to erode the community will stay. stg slate wrote:Lady Anorexia wrote:Seems CCP is going the way of Blizzard plus a pinch of EA. Lol that actually is hilarious, EA and Blizzard are enormously successful companies that can crank out AAA titles that gamers **** themselves for in anticipation. I am lost for words so take this picture.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
I will be voting for Xenuria because...
Now that everything can be bought for $, EVE has no goals - empty shell.
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
1792
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Posted - 2016.02.16 15:40:11 -
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What do you base that hypothetical on?
Young players are tantrum kiddies and older players are mature and desirable?
You realise that all old players were once young players, right? And regardless of their demeanor, this game needs new players.
Perhaps you should lay off the hypotheticals, you are not very good at it. |
Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore
13662
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Posted - 2016.02.16 15:41:58 -
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stg slate wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:This isn't golf clubs for rich people (whatever a responsible person does with his or her money is their business), this is someone intentionally deciding to open a liquor store right next to an alcoholic's anonymous meeting house then pretending like they didn't know their were alcoholics nearby.... So EVE players are not responsible person? Cynical, obvious you think you so smart from posts, but all the rest of players are irresponsible children who can't be trusted not to spend rent money on injectors?
Yep, another one of those deny the truth mindsets. Where did I say "all the rest"?
I'm sure most EVE players are responsible people. But some aren't, some are even mentally ill and vulnerable. What was good about CCP before now was that they weren't one of the companies that adopted the predatory moves (that targeted thos vulnerable types) with regards to their business. Sure, they had a harsh game, but as a company they were mostly above board except during monoclegate.
Now they seem to be on the path of being like the soulless gaming mega companies that no one I know likes but everyone seems to give money to (EA,Daybreak, Blizzard etc). They're literally transforming from friendly niche mom-and pop eatery on the corner into McDonalds. Don't we have enough McDonalds?
Thus the term 'sell out', such as when you sell out the solid and respectable principles that let you survive so long and create a fanatically loyal fanbase (ie people like me) in an attempt to go mainstream and make more money. Plot twist: It doesn't make you any more money in the long run AND you ticked off the loyal fanbase by just attempting it lol. |
stg slate
We're Kind of a Big Deal
61
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Posted - 2016.02.16 15:44:43 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:I am lost for words so take this picture.
From posts it obvious you hate the big dog game companies and want EVE to forever be special snowflake game produced by poor people working only for love of game and earning no money and catering to indie wet dream.
Find indie MMO to play might make you way happier. EVE is not indie, CCP is bigger company than you imagine.
The game and company have outgrown your ideas. They would like to know that their company will still be around in 10 years so they seek way to make money so their employees can have stability and future. No fun working for a company when future is uncertain, so they seek to divest themselves to many games and platforms in case EVE dies they still have a company and people still have work.
All eggs in one basket is bad business.
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Gal Prof
Perkone Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2016.02.16 15:49:09 -
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Would love to see more MAXED characters til it becomes a norm. LOL.
Heck, i would love to maxed out my character if i had the ISK to do so. |
stg slate
We're Kind of a Big Deal
61
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Posted - 2016.02.16 15:49:55 -
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Jenn aSide wrote: Now they seem to be on the path of being like the soulless gaming mega companies that no one I know likes but everyone seems to give money to (EA,Daybreak, Blizzard etc). They're literally transforming from friendly niche mom-and pop eatery on the corner into McDonalds. Don't we have enough McDonalds?
Thus the term 'sell out', such as when you sell out the solid and respectable principles that let you survive so long and create a fanatically loyal fanbase (ie people like me) in an attempt to go mainstream and make more money. Plot twist: It doesn't make you any more money in the long run AND you ticked off the loyal fanbase by just attempting it lol.
Yes that strategy works terribly for EA, Riot, Blizzard, etc, that's why those companies are in the poorhouse and about to close.
What the hell is Daybreak even doing in that list? Are they even notable enough to have any comment above the fold? You probably made the talk of their water-cooler by even mentioning their company name.
Expect a direct tweet from Smedly thanking you for trying to make him and his people relevant to any discussion |
Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
5283
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Posted - 2016.02.16 15:50:30 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Don't we have enough McDonalds? There is no McDonalds here where I live. But you can still eat a burger. If they would not sell them here, probably McDonalds would. If CCP would not do that, someone else in industry would, and people would go there. Sometimes you must sell the burger, or McDonalods will, and it would be good to sell different (better) burgers than McDonalds.
( -á° -ƒ-û -í°)/ =ƒÅ¦ - my sandcastle
Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒôò
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Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
136
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Posted - 2016.02.16 15:50:44 -
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Gal Prof wrote:Would love to see more MAXED characters til it becomes a norm. LOL.
Or a necessity...
--Gadget
Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist
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Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
5283
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Posted - 2016.02.16 15:53:13 -
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Gadget Helmsdottir wrote:Gal Prof wrote:Would love to see more MAXED characters til it becomes a norm. LOL. Or a necessity... --Gadget Do it, max out your char. I dare you.
If you dont see pointlesness of that, do it.
( -á° -ƒ-û -í°)/ =ƒÅ¦ - my sandcastle
Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒôò
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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
2607
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Posted - 2016.02.16 15:56:58 -
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Gadget Helmsdottir wrote:Gal Prof wrote:Would love to see more MAXED characters til it becomes a norm. LOL. Or a necessity... --Gadget
It will never be a necessity since there are 0 activity in the game that require the full skill set. |
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stg slate
We're Kind of a Big Deal
61
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Posted - 2016.02.16 15:57:03 -
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It seems unideal to even max a single character, better to spend point all 3 characters on account. 3 times the research, jobs, production, PI, trade sales slots, contract, etc.
Single maxed character is novelty.
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Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore
13664
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Posted - 2016.02.16 15:59:45 -
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stg slate wrote:
Yes that strategy works terribly for EA, Riot, Blizzard, etc, that's why those companies are in the poorhouse and about to close.
You are exactly the kind of consumer these people need to exist. I mean, as long as they're making money, who cares about respectability, ethics, and square dealing? We couldn't have Wal-Mart killing every single small business in a 10 mile radius around one of their stores without your type lol. Congrats.
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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
2607
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Posted - 2016.02.16 16:04:45 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:stg slate wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:This isn't golf clubs for rich people (whatever a responsible person does with his or her money is their business), this is someone intentionally deciding to open a liquor store right next to an alcoholic's anonymous meeting house then pretending like they didn't know their were alcoholics nearby.... So EVE players are not responsible person? Cynical, obvious you think you so smart from posts, but all the rest of players are irresponsible children who can't be trusted not to spend rent money on injectors? Now they seem to be on the path of being like the soulless gaming mega companies that no one I know likes but everyone seems to give money to (EA,Daybreak, Blizzard etc). They're literally transforming from friendly niche mom-and pop eatery on the corner into McDonalds. Don't we have enough McDonalds?
They should forgo a revenue stream for the purity of the gaming scene? How much of your own money is at stake when you say they should not thrive to grow their revenue? |
stg slate
We're Kind of a Big Deal
63
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Posted - 2016.02.16 16:09:08 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:stg slate wrote: Yes that strategy works terribly for EA, Riot, Blizzard, etc, that's why those companies are in the poorhouse and about to close.
You are exactly the kind of consumer these people need to exist. I mean, as long as they're making money, who cares about respectability, ethics, and square dealing? We couldn't have Wal-Mart killing every single small business in a 10 mile radius around one of their stores without your type lol. Congrats.
Haha I was right all along, you are smelly hippy!
Fight the man meat is murder you can't OWN property, man! Big business i bad
I'd rather pay a fair price for food than get raped over by a mom and pop shop who wants 9.50 for a box of cheerios. Small business dies because they have spent 100 years screwing people on price and now people can buy stuff at fair price.
Screw Borders and Bars&Nobles too, go amazon!
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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
2608
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Posted - 2016.02.16 16:11:38 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:stg slate wrote:
Yes that strategy works terribly for EA, Riot, Blizzard, etc, that's why those companies are in the poorhouse and about to close.
You are exactly the kind of consumer these people need to exist. I mean, as long as they're making money, who cares about respectability, ethics, and square dealing? We couldn't have Wal-Mart killing every single small business in a 10 mile radius around one of their stores without your type lol. Congrats.
If local shops provided what they promise for their higher prices, people would still go. The issue is many don't provide anything over the wal-mart experience so people just go for the lower price. |
Celise Katelo
State War Academy Caldari State
185
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Posted - 2016.02.16 16:20:33 -
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Since CCP are going rather nuts on trying to make loads of wonga, can we get some "Guristas Pirate" , tattoos for our character, i would also like some bunny ears / hairband. No wait.... Perhaps add it as a bonus feature for buying a ship package.
or.... "cough"
The Guristas Pirate - beg for mercy pirate pack
This pack will give you every skill needed to fly a "Worm" ,"Gila" , "Rattlesnake" , the pack includes tattoos, bunny ears / hairband. 5x Worms, 4x Gila, 2x Rattlesnake. (If you already own, some of the skills guttered, the price is fixed.. hehe)
DLC extra for this pack - You can only get this with the above pack.
Guristas Ammo, Pick your poison. 50k ammo pack / Choose 3 types of ammo. Guristas Aug drones (special edition) , Pick your poison / Choose 3 types from Light, Medium, Heavy. (Or Gecko) Full set of Deadspace Guristas modules, so you get the Ulimate fitted pve / pvp killing machines for: Worm - Gila - Rattlesnake "cough" , will makes Officer modes look like watered down chilly
EVEBoard ...Just over 30million skill points, each skill was chosen for a reason. I closed my eyes & clicked another skill to train... "BINGO...!!!" ... "This time i got something usefull"
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Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
329
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Posted - 2016.02.16 16:24:54 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:stg slate wrote:Jenn aSide wrote: Oh look an apologist for abusive corprate greed that preys on the gullible.
Wait what, making money is corporate greed? Stop being smelly hippy. Game makers don't prey on people; people can make own choice to pay for hobbies. Selling people fancy golf clubs not taking advantage people, some people like fancy clubs even when cheaper ones work fine. This isn't golf clubs for rich people (whatever a responsible person does with his or her money is their business), this is someone intentionally deciding to open a liquor store right next to an alcoholic's anonymous meeting house then pretending like they didn't know their were alcoholics nearby....
The only thing that makes sense to me with this post I'm replying to, is that sp injectors can be addictive.
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Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
136
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Posted - 2016.02.16 16:25:26 -
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Nana Skalski wrote: If you dont see pointlesness of that, do it.
Frostys Virpio wrote: It will never be a necessity since there are 0 activity in the game that require the full skill set.
For the full skill sheet, you're absolutely right. Hyperbole has it's uses - usually involving standing out and mnemonics. My statement served it's purpose.
However, for more focused pursuits? I fully see maxing out a skill set in an instant having an effect on the game. A better skilled industrialist make more of a profit. So will said miner. The SP bar for recruitment will be raised.
And for what it's worth, I don't think characters should be sold either. /shrug
--Gadget
Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist
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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
2609
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Posted - 2016.02.16 16:28:11 -
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Gadget Helmsdottir wrote:Nana Skalski wrote: If you dont see pointlesness of that, do it. Frostys Virpio wrote: It will never be a necessity since there are 0 activity in the game that require the full skill set. For the full skill sheet, you're absolutely right. Hyperbole has it's uses - usually involving standing out and mnemonics. My statement served it's purpose. However, for more focused pursuits? I fully see maxing out a skill set in an instant having an effect on the game. A better skilled industrialist make more of a profit. So will said miner. The SP bar for recruitment will be raised. And for what it's worth, I don't think characters should be sold either. /shrug--Gadget
If you are honest with the bold part, at least you are not a hypocrite and I can respect that. If you are not honest, then sorry but perfect or close to it alts can be bought for pretty much anything worthwhile. |
stg slate
We're Kind of a Big Deal
66
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Posted - 2016.02.16 16:28:23 -
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Avvy wrote: The only thing that makes sense to me with this post I'm replying to, is that sp injectors can be addictive.
Yeah, but so can trading cards, but people are making it seem like the pokemon people making trading cards is like heroin dealer targeting children.
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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
2609
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Posted - 2016.02.16 16:31:17 -
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Celise Katelo wrote:Since CCP are going rather nuts on trying to make loads of wonga, can we get some "Guristas Pirate" , tattoos for our character, i would also like some bunny ears / hairband. No wait.... Perhaps add it as a bonus feature for buying a ship package. or.... "cough" The Guristas Pirate - beg for mercy pirate packThis pack will give you every skill needed to fly a "Worm" ,"Gila" , "Rattlesnake" , the pack includes tattoos, bunny ears / hairband. 5x Worms, 4x Gila, 2x Rattlesnake. (If you already own, some of the skills guttered, the price is fixed.. hehe) DLC extra for this pack - You can only get this with the above pack. Guristas Ammo, Pick your poison. 50k ammo pack / Choose 3 types of ammo. Guristas Aug drones (special edition) , Pick your poison / Choose 3 types from Light, Medium, Heavy. (Or Gecko) Full set of Deadspace Guristas modules, so you get the Ulimate fitted pve / pvp killing machines for: Worm - Gila - Rattlesnake "cough" , will make Officer mods look like watered down chilly
The closest thing to that has been added to the game at least a year ago and I don't really remember people throwing fits over the beginner packages on steam giving away ventures and some minerals for new accounts. If you were not flipping your **** back then, SP trading is a much lower "offense" to the "purity" of the game since nothing is created out of thin air. It's only a transfer with potentially harsh diminishing returns. |
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
2609
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Posted - 2016.02.16 16:32:56 -
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stg slate wrote:Avvy wrote: The only thing that makes sense to me with this post I'm replying to, is that sp injectors can be addictive.
Yeah, but so can trading cards, but people are making it seem like the pokemon people making trading cards is like heroin dealer targeting children.
Trading card game at least have a use. You can play the game with them. Go with sport cards which serve nothing but collecting in purpose and see how easy it is to find shops for those close to school or sporting venue. |
Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
329
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Posted - 2016.02.16 16:36:37 -
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Gadget Helmsdottir wrote:Nana Skalski wrote: If you dont see pointlesness of that, do it. Frostys Virpio wrote: It will never be a necessity since there are 0 activity in the game that require the full skill set. For the full skill sheet, you're absolutely right. Hyperbole has its uses - usually involving standing out and mnemonics. My statement served its purpose. However, for more focused pursuits? I fully see maxing out a skill set in an instant having an effect on the game. A better skilled industrialist make more of a profit. So will said miner. The SP bar for recruitment will be raised. And for what it's worth, I don't think characters should be sold either. /shrug --Gadget
And if you don't meet their stands, so what, their loss. |
stg slate
We're Kind of a Big Deal
66
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Posted - 2016.02.16 16:37:50 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote: Trading card game at least have a use. You can play the game with them. Go with sport cards which serve nothing but collecting in purpose and see how easy it is to find shops for those close to school or sporting venue.
This is not utilitarian utopia, people can buy stuff for fun that has no direct 'Use' and doesn't directly increase net wealth and better you. Collecting stuff is fine.
It's like this forum is full of Ayn Rand somedays.
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stg slate
We're Kind of a Big Deal
66
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Posted - 2016.02.16 16:39:17 -
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Gadget Helmsdottir wrote: And for what it's worth, I don't think characters should be sold either. /shrug --Gadget
To be honest, if they weren't sold then the skill injectors shouldn't exist either. Unfortunately the character bazaar has been a thing forever.
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Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore
13665
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Posted - 2016.02.16 16:40:28 -
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stg slate wrote:Avvy wrote: The only thing that makes sense to me with this post I'm replying to, is that sp injectors can be addictive.
Yeah, but so can trading cards, but people are making it seem like the pokemon people making trading cards is like heroin dealer targeting children.
You might not not have kids that live with you, because that's exactly how it feels.. I suffered a pokemon war in my own house. Kids are grown now but looking back over those battles I'd rather they'd just smoked weed or something...
Death to pokemon. |
Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
329
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Posted - 2016.02.16 16:42:36 -
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stg slate wrote:Gadget Helmsdottir wrote: And for what it's worth, I don't think characters should be sold either. /shrug --Gadget
To be honest, if they weren't sold then the skill injectors shouldn't exist either. Unfortunately the character bazaar has been a thing forever.
Well, I kind of agree. the character bazaar, should never have happened if they want sp to mean something. The fact the character bazaar was allowed to happen paved the way for sp injectors. |
Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
628
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Posted - 2016.02.16 16:46:21 -
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The Character Bazaar - even though I don't like it was not too bad. Character trading is going to happen anyway in an MMOG, whether it's allowed or not. So, I think it's better to allow it in a regulated, controlled fashion than to let it run wild on ebay. |
Big Lynx
4853
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Posted - 2016.02.16 16:46:31 -
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Dayum, I can see the briefing of the controllling department in CCP's HQ before announcing SP-Trading. That decision must have been one of the hardest for CCP Devs. I am pretty sure of that.
It's not easy to see the long term consquences for the health of the game, but my gut feeling tells me that they will be not for good advantage. EvE has reached or fell down on the same level like every other average MMO. *sigh* |
stg slate
We're Kind of a Big Deal
66
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Posted - 2016.02.16 16:46:42 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:You might not not have kids that live with you, because that's exactly how it feels.. I suffered a pokemon war in my own house. Kids are grown now but looking back over those battles I'd rather they'd just smoked weed or something... Death to pokemon.
Magic cards, same drug different company
All joking aside though, no one sucks a **** or stabs someone for pokemon cards. And they won't for injectors either.
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